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You don't seem to understand what I am saying at all.
Just because your GPU can work at even far above 90 C for years, doesn't mean it is good.
It's like if you are driving your car at full speed everyday, it might work for quite a while, but it will shorten it's durability.
I have a GeForce GTX 1080 which is considered one if not the best GPU on the market right now, my graphic card can run pretty high in temperature, this is normal since as you've said it's an invidia. However, I always try to keep it at 45 - 65, not higher. In fact, I have something called GPU overlock, it tells you what is too hot and what isn't. And everything from 70 upwards is considered too hot.
I also recommend to activate V-Sync whenever you can. Everything else challenges your GPu more than necessary.
To confirm that, I have also talked to a Nvidia technical employee, he told me it's normal that especially the GeForce GTX 1080 can heat up quiet a bit, but that everything below 70 is perfect, everything above is considered hot and should be tried to avoid if possible.
But hey, if you want to constantly run your GPU at 80 or 70 C, go for it. You are the person who has to replace his GPU after 2 - 3 years. Not me.
1. I understand what you're saying just fine.
2. Almost all REFERENCE GPUs have a temperature target of 80-90c, meaning that they are MEANT to run at that temperature for extended periods of time without taking damage.
3. 45-65c. That's unecessarily low.[www.google.se] Your GPU will never reach 80+c since it's a non-reference card, but this doesn't mean that it would take damage in the long run if it did.
4. That would be because he was talking about non-reference 1080s, where if the card actually did run at 80c, it would likely mean that the fan or thermal paste is ♥♥♥♥♥♥.
5. I've had my GTX titan since 2013/03/16, running at 80-85c for god knows how many hours, and it hasn't been a problem and won't be for many years forward.
Fight? lol? I mean, I guess maybe I sounded aggressive somehow....? If so then that is not my intention.
2. I disagree. GPUs are not meant to run at 80-90c, maybe for an hour or two, but that's about it. Not on a daily basis though! This goes for ref and non-ref GPUs. I have already said that I talked with Nvidia about it. Maybe you should do to, since you do not believe in what I am saying.
3.Wrong, my GPU can easily reach 80c, have already tested it out ;-) & there is nothing like unecessary low, the lower, the better for your durability.
4. This is possible, but also not. It depends from what brand he is using and what model. Not all non-reference graphic cards that run hotter than normal, are necessarily the result of a broken fan or thermal paste. It also depends from WHEN it runs hot, if he plays a demanding game all maxed out, or when he is trying to surf in google or whatever.
5. It's because your GPU is of good quality, 4 years is not a very long time, in fact, just because it is still running ,does not mean it will still do in the next 2 years. I also have never said that your GPU will definitely stop working if you run it hot all the time, I have just said that you decrease it's durability, meaning, it might or no, it WILL break down earlier than if you would run it at 45- 75c everday for the last what, 10 years. Most of us will probably never find out how much longer it would run, because we change our equipment every 6-8 . A very good gpu can do it's job longer than that though. It's about treating your equipment with respect, and not challenge the risk.
But I am glad you understood what I was saying, after calling me a fool and coming off a bit aggrevated and pre-mature, I thought you might had trouble understanding my reply :-)
Good day to you.
Unless they are defective , they run how they should. Lower temps might slow wear, but not really. Lower temps lead to actual expanding fail rates. OC, cool the case, normal operation, run normally, if you are worried take the case access side off, but clean it FAR more regularly
Almost all Nvidia reference GPUs are meant to run at 80c (this is objective, not subjective) unless the target temperature is modified. I've had multiple reference Nvidia GPUs, and I used play games for 8+ hours a day, with the GPUs running at 80-85c CONSTANTLY during those hours. Google "nvidia reference temperature target" if you don't believe me. http://prntscr.com/e1d03j http://prntscr.com/e1d0hc
If this kind of temperature is an actual problem, then why would Nvidia set the target temperature at 80c and ship with a 3 year warranty?
Of course running it at a hotter temperature is going to reduce lifespan, but at 80c the difference in lifespan compared to say... 60c, is insignificant.
If you really do consider 80c to be a problem, then please post proof from a site that isn't 100 pages back on google.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/30
I have read it, it doesn't say anywhere that it is GOOD if it runs on over 60c. It says that NVIDIA heats up more, it's more sensitive in terms of heat control, so it going up to 80 is considered acceptable. However, it doesn't speak about durability. Why? Because developers would not talk about their own product like that saying it can break if permanently run on 80c.
Everyone who has a glue the slightest, knows that it is unecessary to run your GPU this high, and it should be avoided if possible, no matter if your GPU doesn't blow up straight away or runs for several years.
The risk of it breaking down isn't low when running on 80c on a daily basis. Just a matter of facts here my friend.
Heat being a real problem starts at 90c, I have never said that 80c is a problem, just that it would reduce your GPUs lifespan and that it can more likely cause damage than on let's say 60 or 65c.
As an example, when I play Watch Dogs 2 all maxed out, I get around 75 maybe 80c. This is considered HOT. Wherver you ask, everyone will tell you, it's hot. Hot, is bad, for car engines, and also for your GPU.
Conclusion: Everything below 80c is fine, the lower the better. As I have already said. If I can make a game look amazing and get 65c out of it, I will do so. Why should I unecessary push it to 75 or even 80c if it would not even look much different.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/340300-33-graphics-card
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/351453/geforce-basics/gpu-temperature-what-is-good-/
Two links in which you can clearly read that people try to keep their temp as low as possible, some are fine with 60 some are fine with 70 - 75. But nobody really wants to go higher than 70, if not absolutely necessary.
And as you might be able to read in my previous thread, I have clearly said that I am talking about the daily use. Not about 2-3 hrs, if you run your GPU on 80 or even 95c for a few hours every other day, this won't be too bad. But not on a daily basis, this WILL hugely decrease your lifespan and hugely increase the risk of damage.
Do some of your own research online, and don't just check the developers site and forums with pre-mature kiddos who would burn their GPU in order to squeeze out a 50-100 more FPS.
Whatever I say, you seem to turn it in to the extreme. I have never said that running on 80 or even 90 for a few hours is bad, and I have never said that 80 will definitely kill your machine. All I was saying the entire time is ,that running high means less durability and lifespan and running low means more durability and lifespan, as simple as that.
And you have already agreed to what I have said, so I don't fully understand why you are still going on about 80c. We all know that 65 is better and preferred, and 80c is pretty much the edge, the limit you should run on.
I am an IT-specialist, I respect my equipment. If I can make it live longer, I will do so. And running my laptop on 80c on a daily basis for several hours, is not part of it.
Peace, I am out.
Call us nerds or whatever, I rather discuss something and maybe learn something new or teach others something new and share my knowledge, than wasting my time by surfing YouTube or watching porn. There is nothing wrong about being a " nerd " as you call it. At least this nerd will always have enough money to provide for a decent life. No offense though.
Oh, I am sure it does! Never said it would not run well :-)
I really like computers and love learning about them, unfortunatly I dont know the best place to learn about the hardware.
I am not a hardware specialist either, and you don't need to be in order to use computers as they are supposed to be used. Hardware is not even all that interesting because you can't really do anything with it, except build it in, and choose it. Software however can be manipulated or even developed by your own hand. Never seen someone building his own graphic card out of nothing. But I have seen people programming their own OS and applications in general. This is what makes us humans powerful, to be able to use technology, and programming is the most important part of all. Without programmers, every machine would just be a piece of metal.