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Z 9/abr./2017 às 15:19
Bruce Lee v.s. Mike Tyson
In their prime years.

Who would've won ?
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Vile 9/abr./2017 às 18:43 
Escrito originalmente por Slevin Kelevra:
If you are going to learn to fight, boxing is the most practical. Followed with Akido.

Any martial art that isn't taught full contact is training you to not use it right.

I've practiced Bo Jitsu and Wing Chun for many years. Again, Boxing might be best suited for you, but you cannot dismiss other styles either. I'm a man and I can say that due to the average woman's size and muscles, boxing would be impractical. That's an example of every style is best suited for different individuals.

I've studied the teachings of Master Mui and she taught to end the fight before it begins. She taught to build a bridge and walk over it, meaning to deflect attacks and go for pressure points on the opponent's body to stop them. This can be done with little force and so most attacks aren't lethal unless they need be.

Every attack is meant to conserve energy and to use kicks for low attacks and to use kicks for low blocks also. She came up with this theory after watching how a Crane will deflect the Snake's attacks rather than block them.

She was a Physics genius where she taught balance and area of space. This style can be used to fight off more than one attacker at a time.
Última edição por Vile; 9/abr./2017 às 18:46
Fair assessment.

We shall disagree on the issue of size. As size is merely a misleading concept about effective range. I was taught, and have taught size ain't ♥♥♥♥. Hit hard, hit fast, hit for effect. My wife was the sweetest person I have ever met. During a night out I watched her paste a guys nose with a right cross and plant two in the kiddy maker for getting handsy before I could finish calling the guy a ♥♥♥♥. Exactly like we practiced.

The art and style is great. Lee was right though. You use what works. All the rest is window dressing. Mine is a mix of Kenpo, Muay Thai, and MCMAP instruction. I fire for effect.
Vile 9/abr./2017 às 19:08 
Escrito originalmente por Slevin Kelevra:
Fair assessment.

We shall disagree on the issue of size. As size is merely a misleading concept about effective range. I was taught, and have taught size ain't ♥♥♥♥. Hit hard, hit fast, hit for effect. My wife was the sweetest person I have ever met. During a night out I watched her paste a guys nose with a right cross and plant two in the kiddy maker for getting handsy before I could finish calling the guy a ♥♥♥♥. Exactly like we practiced.

The art and style is great. Lee was right though. You use what works. All the rest is window dressing. Mine is a mix of Kenpo, Muay Thai, and MCMAP instruction. I fire for effect.

Lee himself was a student of Wing Chun, though he later added his own style to the art which isn't uncommon. Most practitioners see their style as art and they want to paint their own impression into it. I've found that mixing Wing Chun with Tai Chi is effective. When it comes to fighting, size plays some factors here and there but here's another problem....

Boxing was made with 1 on 1 fighting in mind. The problems with that is that sometimes criminals will travel in packs for back up. Every style works best for the individual, yes, and in Wing Chun it is a style that was made for 1 vs 2 or more in mind. I like how it's practical and quick with no fancy moves in mind.

Again, every country has its own fighters. I've never seen Kung Fu as practical in United States because the average American doesn't practice that style and they typically use normal fist fighting. Fancy kicks and such can actually be a disadvantage to you against the average American fighter.

Última edição por Vile; 9/abr./2017 às 19:08
Chuck norris is so old that if he would do a round house kick he would break both hips.
Bruce lee would win over anyone. He can not be beat. Except by a bullet.
AH-1 Cobra 9/abr./2017 às 19:48 
Escrito originalmente por 99ProblemsButABitchAin't1:
Chuck norris is so old that if he would do a round house kick he would break both hips.

He hasn't aged a day in 20 years. The guy is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ invincible. I'm not even sure he's human to be honest.
Escrito originalmente por crimsonedge11:
Escrito originalmente por 99ProblemsButABitchAin't1:
Chuck norris is so old that if he would do a round house kick he would break both hips.

He hasn't aged a day in 20 years. The guy is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ invincible. I'm not even sure he's human to be honest.
HAHHAHAHAHA
AH-1 Cobra 9/abr./2017 às 19:59 
I agree that training in Martial Arts that's not full contact isn't *real* training. People handle stress differently, and some people just lose it and don't fight effectively in real fights. Regardless of their training. Others handle it better, and can focus better. People who train in full contact know how much force they have to deliver to get the desired effect.

Let's say you're capable of kicking someone in the chest and completely obliterating them, caving in their chest cavity and killing them. Lungs punctured, they suffocate in 3-4 minutes. Basically like taking a sledgehammer to the chest. Yes, some martial artists can hit this hard with side kicks. Some heavyweight boxers can hit this hard with a right cross. Not hard enough to do that to another boxer, but vs your average overweight American beta male, definitely.

Someone like this would have to know how much to back off to where they just break a rib instead of collapsing their entire rib cage. And not back off "too much" to where it's ineffective.
Última edição por AH-1 Cobra; 9/abr./2017 às 20:06
Escrito originalmente por crimsonedge11:
Escrito originalmente por 99ProblemsButABitchAin't1:
Chuck norris is so old that if he would do a round house kick he would break both hips.

He hasn't aged a day in 20 years. The guy is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ invincible. I'm not even sure he's human to be honest.
The guy is like 85 years old. he so old that there is dirt younger then him.
AH-1 Cobra 9/abr./2017 às 20:08 
Escrito originalmente por 99ProblemsButABitchAin't1:
The guy is like 85 years old. he so old that there is dirt younger then him.

And people will be saying this when he's 185, 285, and 385, etc. The grim reaper came for Chuck Norris.....and Chuck Norris won. And you all seriously think he couldn't take Bruce Lee?
Última edição por AH-1 Cobra; 9/abr./2017 às 20:09
Escrito originalmente por crimsonedge11:
Escrito originalmente por 99ProblemsButABitchAin't1:
The guy is like 85 years old. he so old that there is dirt younger then him.

And people will be saying this when he's 185, 285, and 385, etc. The grim reaper came for Chuck Norris.....and Chuck Norris won. And you all seriously think he couldn't take Bruce Lee?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WgT9gy4zQA

Mr. Rogers wins....

Spoiler.
Red Shift 9/abr./2017 às 20:14 
The question brought to mind Ip Man vs Twister, so I looked up its authenticity and found the following...

"Grandmaster Yip Man did not fight any British boxing champion. In real life, it was actually Yip Man's student, Wong Shun Leung ("Wong Leung" in the movie) who fought a 240 lbs Russian not British Boxer in Hong Kong and Wong Shun Leung won that fight by KO with just three punches!!!"

Bruce Lee being another student of Ip/yip's, I'd go with the fight lasting a similar length in Lee's favour.
Última edição por Red Shift; 10/abr./2017 às 4:19
If Mike could land a headshot, it might knock Lee down. But tbh, Lee is a real-deal martial artist and not those hollywood fake type. But for my answer, I'd go with Mike, if could grab a hold of Lee, he could win.
I got my money on Bruce Lee. Mike Tyson is a bad man with his hands, but anything past that is outside his field. Plus being huge and being able to take a hit won't save you from taking a hit on pressure points or organs. That ♥♥♥♥ will shock your system and ruin you in a fight. I'm sure Bruce Lee knew exactly where they all are too.
Autistic Whales 9/abr./2017 às 22:28 
Bruce Lee, I dont think anyone could beat him.
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