Γαῖα 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 2:36
Are youtube sucking up to the wrong people ?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-05/demonetization-youtube-fast-underway-dissidents-will-be-silenced

I just dont see what youtube and advertisers hope to gain here as its the content creators that are branded as so called right centers that bring the audiences these two did make a lot of revenue off whether they care to admit it or not. Lets face it, youtube,facebook and twitter draw the audience advertisers need now they dont sit infront of TVs anymore or care to look while walking down the street.
Take your CNN,MSBN,new york times,wall street journal for instance. No one watches that crap nowhere near they do say pewdiepie.Hell, to rub it in disneys face he just recently released this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwp1mEvgOTY

Hell, even him unwrapping his new custom built PC draws a bigger crowd than those trying to hate on him and others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXNTnUiwkIE

I believe these haters are expecting to sweep these content creators off the site but keep the subscribers/viewers. I believe youtube is expecting to place this creative content with converting youtube into a TV channel as such. Now call me crazy but i reckon a lot of people stopped watching TV because creative content is more raw and fun.

Already as i said way back when this all started, these content creators are already hosting on other sites and advertsing it to their subscribers and viewers so when these lot and all the new content creators go elsewhere, will the advertsiers want to even advertise if there isnt an audience.
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tomk1 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 2:48 
Adertisers have controlled the content on TV for decades. A womans ass O NO, we dont want cheerios supporting womans as.s...etc
So now they are applying pressure on the online media providers, give them money, then pull the plug unless they confirm to nice leftism propaganda.

As Chowder said why doesn't youtube allow advertisement from AK47 or right sided products.
I have never seen an advert for condoms on Youtube, or for health care products.
edit: btw i am a Zerohedger
最後修改者:tomk1; 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 2:50
Tux 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 2:51 
引用自 tomk1
Adertisers have controlled the content on TV for decades. A womans ass O NO, we dont want cheerios supporting womans as.s...etc
So now they are applying pressure on the online media providers, give them money, then pull the plug unless they confirm to nice leftism propaganda.

As Chowder said why doesn't youtube allow advertisement from AK47 or right sided products.
I have never seen an advert for condoms on Youtube, or for health care products.

actually more often then not advertisers have no idea what the content is of the shows. Its only once they are told that they then take action if they decide to pull or not
Alpha 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 2:52 
Why should internet bullies, fascists, fearmongers, propagandists, etc. and worse get rich from peddling their crap on youtube? So they saw their adverts were being shown on channels that they don't want them shown on, so they just pulled their adverts completely. That's what I understand about it anyway.
Γαῖα 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 3:01 
引用自 Paradox
Why should internet bullies, fascists, fearmongers, propagandists, etc. and worse get rich from peddling their crap on youtube? So they saw their adverts were being shown on channels that they don't want them shown on, so they just pulled their adverts completely. That's what I understand about it anyway.

Do us a favour paradox, can you show us any of these internet bullies, fascists, fearmongers, propagandists, etc. and worse get rich from peddling their crap on youtube so we can see what you see as these groups ?
Azza ☠ 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 3:51 
It's got to the point of middle school playground fighting... they just name call each other and do nothing but cause drama. Both sides are acting as cringey as humanly possible and ironically being hypocrites.
PastelWraith 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 4:00 
Without the Amazing Athiests and JonTrons of YouTube, there's no reason to even go on YouTube. It's not like they have good original paid content
Exiled Alchemist 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 4:27 
Yes, Youtube is sucking up to the wrong people. That's because they want to keep every bit of income they can do to greed. Even worse they are now starting to cut the amount of income they pay content creators. Even the creators that stick to the rules, and run a 100% clean channel are seeing cuts as well.

Take a channel like PelleK who pays close to 50% of his Youtube earning for copyrights so he can sing covers of various songs. Now he is looking at getting less then 9% from Youtube do to them cutting the pay. That is going to make it so that he can't pay the copyright use fees leaving him in a state of being unsure if he can even keep going. He is trying to get help from starting a patreon donation in hopes to keep what he does going. If Youtube doesn't change for the better many channels like PelleK are going to move on to the next thing that is more willing to offer the same, or better features with better pay for content creators.
Lily 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 4:40 
A couple weeks ago, youtube ♥♥♥♥♥♥ with LGBT channels[www.nytimes.com]. It's not just alt-fascists. Youtube is a capitalist business, it doesn't care about LGBT rights or comedians who pay poor people to hold signs with nazi slogans. It just cares about money.
Azza ☠ 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 4:44 
引用自 Mister_Titov
引用自 Azza ☠
It's got to the point of middle school playground fighting... they just name call each other and do nothing but cause drama. Both sides are acting as cringey as humanly possible and ironically being hypocrites.
Mmmmm, fresh and interesting point of view, can you explain it with examples of hipocrisy?

Well, WSJ wants to drive traffic with their clickbait slandering of Pewdiepie. Blown completely out of the water for the greed of profit. Then they get hit back for it, so use dirty tactics in revenge getting advertisers to leave Youtube (rather than merely attempting to resolve the ad target issues, which could of easier been fixed up like Google Adsense giving advertisers more control over it's placement).

Then you have the other side, such as Keemstar, saying boycott all the advertisers that left Youtube. Starts saying "Thanks Coke" and buying their drinks, because their ad was on Youtube (but they withdrew 2) so suddenly switches over to "Thanks Dr. Pepper" and insult/harassing, creating a huge negative mob mentality against Pepsi.

Both side doing the same thing which got them into this mess, but rather than acting like adults and resolving it, but fight like little kids throwing insults and slander back and forwards.

It's so stupid... advertisers should have a right to place these ads on what content they want, as they pay for it and don't want to support harassment/cyberbullying, etc. Fair enough. Blackmailing them back isn't going to work. How about people actually work with each other?

As for the LGBT community, Youtube supports them too and again blown up and stirred up just for drama and negative mob mentality. Don't people seriously know how a 'restricted' filtering system would work for child protection? It's nothing to do with LGBT, it's to do with the sexual content behind that - 90% of the rest of it being adult content not suitable for kids. A computer system doesn't hate, it's just coded to block out lesians or gays having sex as parents might not want their kids watching that. Therefore the filter pasts onto the more G-rated gays and les content as well... logically.
最後修改者:Azza ☠; 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 4:52
Azza ☠ 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 4:55 
引用自 Mister_Titov
引用自 Azza ☠
Then you have the other side, such as Keemstar, saying boycott all the advertisers that left Youtube. Starts saying "Thanks Coke" and buying their drinks, because their ad was on Youtube (but they withdrew 2) so suddenly switches over to "Thanks Dr. Pepper" and insult/harassing, creating a huge negative mob mentality against Pepsi.
I thought more about pewdiepie's hipocrisy, not about those who wants to make money and subscribers on drama. After all it's pewdiepie vs wall street journal.

There's a bunch of hipocrisy...

Such as Disney themselves had huge anti-semitic jokes back in the day with their own content/cartoons. The guy at wall street journal also made anti-semitic jokes on his own twitter account, etc.

They just make it into a lot more than it needed to be.
Azza ☠ 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 5:25 
引用自 Mister_Titov
引用自 Azza ☠

There's a bunch of hipocrisy...

Such as Disney themselves had huge anti-semitic jokes back in the day with their own content/cartoons. The guy at wall street journal also made anti-semitic jokes on his own twitter account, etc.

They just make it into a lot more than it needed to be.
I mean hipocrisy from pewdiepie itself. It's a known fact that WSJ are bunch of hipocrites and take footage out of context, but since you said that both of them are bad, I want to hear your negative thoughts about pewdiepie.

I meant it's more the other side supporting Pewds - as new reporters claiming WSJ is bad and evil, digging up dirt and harassing back in revenge, boycotting the ads which left Youtube, etc. They have become one of the same, doing it mostly for the views.

As for Pewdiepie himself, well he did admit to his own mistake and took some responsibly for it. So I'll give that credit. He's still been making a few childish revenge snapbacks, but not as a hipocrite as such.
最後修改者:Azza ☠; 2017 年 4 月 5 日 下午 5:26
Azza ☠ 2017 年 4 月 6 日 上午 9:51 
引用自 Mister_Titov
引用自 Azza ☠

I meant it's more the other side supporting Pewds - as new reporters claiming WSJ is bad and evil, digging up dirt and harassing back in revenge, boycotting the ads which left Youtube, etc. They have become one of the same, doing it mostly for the views.

As for Pewdiepie himself, well he did admit to his own mistake and took some responsibly for it. So I'll give that credit. He's still been making a few childish revenge snapbacks, but not as a hipocrite as such.
So basically you saying that the most important thing in fight is not actions of fighters, but reaction of crowd? And you use fans of each side to judge them, instead of punches of the fighters themselves? Don't you find this a bit preposterous?

I'm not talking about a crowd merely watching, I'm talking about a mob and an announcer jumping into the ring of the wrestling match. The actors therefore become part of the show.

For example and I quote: "Pepsi did 911 confirmed by PewDiePie! #DramaAlert" <--- This is NOT helping and just adds to the problem. Keemstar trying to seek revenge for Pepsi leaving Youtube ads, but by doing what he's trying to protest again and got them in the mess in the first place, like wtf. That's what I'm talking about. It's another so-called fake new media, just on the other side doing the same thing back. That's hipocrisy 101 and childish behavior in addressing with the problem. Then they are like durrr wondering why they don't want their ads back on Youtube, after attempting to blackmail and insult them into it. How old are these people?
最後修改者:Azza ☠; 2017 年 4 月 6 日 上午 9:57
Pixelpusher 2017 年 4 月 6 日 上午 9:57 
All of them promote hate speech to me youtubes finally growing up
Sirens 2017 年 4 月 6 日 上午 10:02 
all hail life of boris
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