Artificial Intelligence is going to be fantastic

[Rumi]

when it arrives it's going to revolutionize the world, we will finally be able to monitor literally everyone and react accordingly to whatever happens, it will essentially kill the concept of lying and therefore crime will most likely drop by 100000%

it's going to be like god has finally come down from heaven to rule the earth personally instead of through the imperfect monarchs we have now.

world peace will finally be able to be attained since the AI will automatically deal with rebels the moment they think of doing the horrible things they do.

the illuminati and other secret societies will no longer be able to manipulate the common man, since lies would be banned and there will no longer be any scammers.

it'd be like heaven on earth for every honest person.

i can't wait, how about you guys?

[Rumi]

引用自 Yuuta：

引用自 Rumi：

AI will automatically deal with rebels the moment they think of doing the horrible things they do

Does it mean we all will be getting punished for a thought-crime?

all crimes start in the mind, i do not see what is wrong for arresting someone if you can prove they thought about doing such an action that would require arresting if he actually did it if there was nobody to monitor him. don't be like those cretins who automatically get triggered when they hear the word thought crimes just because they read it in orwell.

you think before you do, do you not?

[Vincent]

So, you want human like AI?
I like how you think.

[Rumi]

引用自 Sir Illic：

引用自 Rumi：

shh don't be so unforgiving

Well if you're gonna pull the "haha it's just a prank guys" card I'm gonna call you out on it.

i didn't though? you're being entirely unforgiving for what the severity of the crime actually is, you can very easily switch the two at a moments notice and not have an issue yet you're making such a big deal out of it. are you insane? if i made an error then fine, but don't crucify me for breathing the wrong way.

[Xpliciit]

Technically if A.I is actually as human like as possible we will just be introducing more crime and mistakes and probably another war or two. Just because we made them it doesn't mean they will care about us or listen to everything we tell them to do.

[Kyno]

We shouldn't complain about this. Our descendants should.

[AH-1 Cobra]

引用自 Rumi：

seriously participate correctly or go to hell.

Easily triggered?

[Rumi]

引用自 Marshal Cid Aulstyne：

So, you want human like AI?
I like how you think.

no i just don't like the representation of A.I. in sci fi movies, they always seem to do the worst things when surely they would benefit society greatly, for those who are honest.

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引用自 Rumi：

引用自 Yuuta：

Does it mean we all will be getting punished for a thought-crime?

all crimes start in the mind, i do not see what is wrong for arresting someone if you can prove they thought about doing such an action that would require arresting if he actually did it if there was nobody to monitor him. don't be like those cretins who automatically get triggered when they hear the word thought crimes just because they read it in orwell.

you think before you do, do you not?

The problem is that your arresting people for things they didn't do. I'm sure most people have considered committing a crime, doesn't mean we need to arrest them,

[Kyno]

引用自 Rumi：

引用自 Marshal Cid Aulstyne：

So, you want human like AI?
I like how you think.

no i just don't like the representation of A.I. in sci fi movies, they always seem to do the worst things when surely they would benefit society greatly, for those who are honest.

I think 90% of humanity will either be locked up or dead.

[Commander Makara]

i mentioned distopian pop culture depictions because that's what i was talking about, however i'm advocating that it wouldn't actually be as bad as pop culture thinks it is,

Yes. I figured as much, that's why I didn't dwell ion it, other than mention my curiosity. Tahnks for confirming that, though.

You're still insultuing me with every post. Not the best way to proceed in a rational, adult discussion.

I think that what's critical, really, is that somewhere, eventually, this AI will need some form of oversight.

Even if we take afanastically idealised and perfect system with neutral AI developed by neutral parties and none of the tech owned noor generatee by vested interests and neither government, corporation, nor philanthropist is providing the funding but instead it's all magically paid for by goodwill ---
ASSUMING that this AI has been developed from a completely impartial basis and the programming has (somehow) not been influential in any way, and that the original pool of data from which it begiins its acquisition and learning is entirely non-biased....

Maintenance, hackers or just the data integrity itself will still need some form of external assistance. Even if this is provided by other AI, this just invokes a circular relaiton that must end with a flawed human.

This is where the problem lies.

[Rumi]

引用自 Kyno：

引用自 Rumi：

no i just don't like the representation of A.I. in sci fi movies, they always seem to do the worst things when surely they would benefit society greatly, for those who are honest.

I think 90% of humanity will either be locked up or dead.

THAT'L LEARN THEM

[Rumi]

引用自 Commander Makara：

i mentioned distopian pop culture depictions because that's what i was talking about, however i'm advocating that it wouldn't actually be as bad as pop culture thinks it is,

Yes. I figured as much, that's why I didn't dwell ion it, other than mention my curiosity. Tahnks for confirming that, though.

You're still insultuing me with every post. Not the best way to proceed in a rational, adult discussion.

I think that what's critical, really, is that somewhere, eventually, this AI will need some form of oversight.

Even if we take afanastically idealised and perfect system with neutral AI developed by neutral parties and none of the tech owned noor generatee by vested interests and neither government, corporation, nor philanthropist is providing the funding but instead it's all magically paid for by goodwill ---
ASSUMING that this AI has been developed from a completely impartial basis and the programming has (somehow) not been influential in any way, and that the original pool of data from which it begiins its acquisition and learning is entirely non-biased....

Maintenance, hackers or just the data integrity itself will still need some form of external assistance. Even if this is provided by other AI, this just invokes a circular relaiton that must end with a flawed human.

This is where the problem lies.

yeah i guess it's a nice dream

perhaps it will never arrive, and we are doomed to have our world be imperfect.

there will never be a heavon on earth :-(

[AH-1 Cobra]

I think people don't understand the implications of a truly sentient AI. This would mean that useless, underproductive humans would get replaced, and tossed aside like yesterday's trash. A small group of elitists could control the world easier and more efficiently than they already do.

[Commander Makara]

引用自 Rumi：

引用自 Yuuta：

Does it mean we all will be getting punished for a thought-crime?

all crimes start in the mind, i do not see what is wrong for arresting someone if you can prove they thought about doing such an action that would require arresting if he actually did it if there was nobody to monitor him. don't be like those cretins who automatically get triggered when they hear the word thought crimes just because they read it in orwell.

you think before you do, do you not?

I don't think you understand what "thoughtcrime" is in 1984.
It's a comon miscconception but it's not "thinking about committing a crime"
Nor is it that thought itself is a crime.

It's jsut a newspeak word for "opposition belief/opinon"

Not to worry, this quite often gets confused with "Minority Report " like ideas of arrests and convictions based on actual 'thought process in the brain'.

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引用自 Rumi：

yeah i guess it's a nice dream

perhaps it will never arrive, and we are doomed to have our world be imperfect.

there will never be a heavon on earth :-(

Don't be sad ;)

In many ways, I believe this is the point.
Perfection (utopia) is not attainable. Yet it is an ambition to strive for, so we continually work to improve the imperfection we have now.

If Heaven were on Earth, maybe people would not seek Heaven or need God - far better to keep people hoping and praying and improving their lot than complacently growing corrupt and decadent.

[Rumi]

引用自 crimsonedge11：

I think people don't understand the implications of a truly sentient AI. This would mean that useless, underproductive humans would get replaced, and tossed aside like yesterday's trash. A small group of elitists could control the world easier and more efficiently than they already do.

if only a small handful of humans would be left then that's only a testament to how flawed humans are, and if such a scenario happens then it's 100% their own fault for being flawed and irresponsible.