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LegendCZ 2017 年 2 月 15 日 上午 12:31
What happend to PewDiePie
... I loved that guy now he have no difference from Justin Bieber what the heck!? ...

... He had everything and changed into total fool ... No offence to his fans. I was also one but ... Those things he doing and such lately ...

Why? ...
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76109108007942031 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 12:36 
引用自 Blob Sr.
引用自 Sir Illic
Personally I don't think children under 12 should be watching a youtuber who made a video with a song that says "Pewdiepie is a child *cough*" (I'll let you fill in the final word).
It seems i missed something, who might that youtuber be i wonder
I don't know who originally made the song, but Pewds used it (although it sounds like him singing it).
[FFK3] Trovaa 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 1:12 
引用自 Sir Illic
引用自 Truffle Brand
If the parents are stupid enough to not educate their kids on these words and tell them they aren't bad unless you use them as insults or unless you make them that way, they shouldn't let their children watch it.
Personally I don't think children under 12 should be watching a youtuber who made a video with a song that says "Pewdiepie is a child *cough*" (I'll let you fill in the final word).
If the parents are dense enough to not tell their kids that's a joke and not to take it seriously, or not even explain why something is inappropriate, they're bad parents.
Spieler 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 1:15 
underaged children being on the internet is common anyway now. Those parents dont control what these kids watch on their smartphone
novasunshine 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 1:17 
引用自 Truffle Brand
引用自 Sir Illic
Personally I don't think children under 12 should be watching a youtuber who made a video with a song that says "Pewdiepie is a child *cough*" (I'll let you fill in the final word).
If the parents are dense enough to not tell their kids that's a joke and not to take it seriously, or not even explain why something is inappropriate, they're bad parents.
Indeed, the reason I see many parents fail to explain when something is wrong or potentially harmful is because they don't explain why it's harmful or wrong in the first place.
Abu Hajjar أبو حجر 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 1:17 
I so want to strangle this thread, pls lets just let this die
[FFK3] Trovaa 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 1:23 
引用自 Ninten
引用自 Truffle Brand
If the parents are dense enough to not tell their kids that's a joke and not to take it seriously, or not even explain why something is inappropriate, they're bad parents.
Indeed, the reason I see many parents fail to explain when something is wrong or potentially harmful is because they don't explain why it's harmful or wrong in the first place.
Or because they have no reason to.
novasunshine 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 1:38 
引用自 Truffle Brand
引用自 Ninten
Indeed, the reason I see many parents fail to explain when something is wrong or potentially harmful is because they don't explain why it's harmful or wrong in the first place.
Or because they have no reason to.
Sometimes things don't get in your head until it's explained logically.
LegendCZ 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 4:26 
Thank you all for discussing it so much, i read alot of opinions. Alot of you here argue. Which is kinda nice. Because problems should be solved by DISCUSSION and that cant go without ARGUING about stuff. Would love to keep it a bit more civil but ... I cant force you.

Also to my opinion again on whole matter. I as i read all the stuff you posted while i was busy.

I still think this is not okay, before sleep yesterday, i was talking to few friends about the issue. And they agreed with my point of view, that he is not bad guy, and he is not racist. BUT that paying little kids for writing something like that is simply over the line.

Yes alot of us like jokes like that, but it does not make it right for majority of people. Especialy the party PewDiePie ofended.

Also we need to realize if we actept this, because it's something "new" to YouTube, we would send a message to a world that being "Nazi" because he is portrayed that way like it or not. Is totaly okay and you can joke about killing whole religion, or in worst case be even serious about this.

What most of you don't seem to realize is, that he is the biggest YouTube star out there, and he have alot of followers, and i personaly dont want people go out with sings like the two little kids had. As i said i am Atheist but i am really tolerant to some degree. And i dont know how you feel the kids wrote something like that about christians or republicans or democrats. Would you be calm too?

Joke is a joke. Joke like that is beyond being joke to GENERAL PUBLIC. And they dont take it like joke, and they have right not to, i dont take it well neither. Again i wont call him Nazi or something like that, he is good guy but he overdone it. I dont want to see him hang, or in prison, but world need to know something like is not right even as a joke.

Again in a circle of friends you belive and they know they take it that way? Sure ... But AGAIN doing the joke infront of a whole world is just outright bad. And if you dont know that, i don't know anymore in which world do i live in.
Danksama 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 4:38 
引用自 Legend - CZ
that paying little kids for writing something like that is simply over the line.
What do you think of these then?
https://youtu.be/I4Sg2n8n-Nc
https://youtu.be/G-5KnUCp4dE
Autistic Whales 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 4:40 
引用自 Legend - CZ
Thank you all for discussing it so much, i read alot of opinions. Alot of you here argue. Which is kinda nice. Because problems should be solved by DISCUSSION and that cant go without ARGUING about stuff. Would love to keep it a bit more civil but ... I cant force you.

Also to my opinion again on whole matter. I as i read all the stuff you posted while i was busy.

I still think this is not okay, before sleep yesterday, i was talking to few friends about the issue. And they agreed with my point of view, that he is not bad guy, and he is not racist. BUT that paying little kids for writing something like that is simply over the line.

Yes alot of us like jokes like that, but it does not make it right for majority of people. Especialy the party PewDiePie ofended.

Also we need to realize if we actept this, because it's something "new" to YouTube, we would send a message to a world that being "Nazi" because he is portrayed that way like it or not. Is totaly okay and you can joke about killing whole religion, or in worst case be even serious about this.

What most of you don't seem to realize is, that he is the biggest YouTube star out there, and he have alot of followers, and i personaly dont want people go out with sings like the two little kids had. As i said i am Atheist but i am really tolerant to some degree. And i dont know how you feel the kids wrote something like that about christians or republicans or democrats. Would you be calm too?

Joke is a joke. Joke like that is beyond being joke to GENERAL PUBLIC. And they dont take it like joke, and they have right not to, i dont take it well neither. Again i wont call him Nazi or something like that, he is good guy but he overdone it. I dont want to see him hang, or in prison, but world need to know something like is not right even as a joke.

Again in a circle of friends you belive and they know they take it that way? Sure ... But AGAIN doing the joke infront of a whole world is just outright bad. And if you dont know that, i don't know anymore in which world do i live in.
Why does the general public matter? I dont want jokes to be censored so even a casual racist joke gets you fired.
novasunshine 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 4:46 
引用自 Legend - CZ
Thank you all for discussing it so much, i read alot of opinions. Alot of you here argue. Which is kinda nice. Because problems should be solved by DISCUSSION and that cant go without ARGUING about stuff. Would love to keep it a bit more civil but ... I cant force you.

Also to my opinion again on whole matter. I as i read all the stuff you posted while i was busy.

I still think this is not okay, before sleep yesterday, i was talking to few friends about the issue. And they agreed with my point of view, that he is not bad guy, and he is not racist. BUT that paying little kids for writing something like that is simply over the line.

Yes alot of us like jokes like that, but it does not make it right for majority of people. Especialy the party PewDiePie ofended.

Also we need to realize if we actept this, because it's something "new" to YouTube, we would send a message to a world that being "Nazi" because he is portrayed that way like it or not. Is totaly okay and you can joke about killing whole religion, or in worst case be even serious about this.

What most of you don't seem to realize is, that he is the biggest YouTube star out there, and he have alot of followers, and i personaly dont want people go out with sings like the two little kids had. As i said i am Atheist but i am really tolerant to some degree. And i dont know how you feel the kids wrote something like that about christians or republicans or democrats. Would you be calm too?

Joke is a joke. Joke like that is beyond being joke to GENERAL PUBLIC. And they dont take it like joke, and they have right not to, i dont take it well neither. Again i wont call him Nazi or something like that, he is good guy but he overdone it. I dont want to see him hang, or in prison, but world need to know something like is not right even as a joke.

Again in a circle of friends you belive and they know they take it that way? Sure ... But AGAIN doing the joke infront of a whole world is just outright bad. And if you dont know that, i don't know anymore in which world do i live in.
Why does the general public matter? I dont want jokes to be censored so even a casual racist joke gets you fired.
That's how life is, deal with it.
Autistic Whales 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 4:53 
引用自 Ninten
Why does the general public matter? I dont want jokes to be censored so even a casual racist joke gets you fired.
That's how life is, deal with it.
No need for the passove agressivness...
But youtube is a free place where content creaters can make what they want pretty much unrestricted, why force TV like restrictions on it?
Commander Makara 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 4:55 
引用自 Legend - CZ
What most of you don't seem to realize is, that he is the biggest YouTube star out there, and he have alot of followers, and i personaly dont want people go out with sings like the two little kids had. As i said i am Atheist but i am really tolerant to some degree. And i dont know how you feel the kids wrote something like that about christians or republicans or democrats. Would you be calm too?

Again this is not the issue. This is just the strawman argument appropriated in defence or amongst naive ignorant prettens that only see so far as "Pewdip made a joke and some jews got offended because they cant take a joke"

This mentality is evident throughout the social media of young persons and this thread too.

The real issue is that the effect of Kjellberg'äs statement - possibly greater in terms of being jsut a joke, therefore more socially accepted - is the normalisation of auch attitudes.
When people make jokes about bombs in airports or shouting alluha akhbar and running into a crowd, the general populace are clearly affected and react accordingly - WHY? It's just a joke.
An extreme example, sure... but one that highlights that jokes are jsut jokes and they are to be taken as such, and of course, there should be opportunities to make such jokes - however, there is an element of responsibility in the time, place and manner in which such jookes are employed.

There are groups that strive continuously in order to reach levels at which persecutions of certain demograqphics are acceptable and normalised and empathies for those demographics are reduced. This is part of a greater agenda.
Should one person's effort (NOT JUST ONE JOKE, but a consistent themed tirade) instill the same effect then they are clearly whether intentionally or otherwise, supporting the agenda of those groups who have made full advantage of the opportunity now afforded to exploit this controversy.

Of course Pewdew is not intending to do such. I'm sure he has no idea of the complexity of the situation. But the lines can be drawn, and Disney and others are well aware of this potential - therefore they must protect themselöves from any such notions. Cutting ties was definitely in their best interests and that's all this issue is about. Whether people can take a joke or claiming Kjellberg is a nazi or nazi sympathiser or whatever is irrelevant strawmanning. Clearly he's NOT and clearly he only meant a joke. He apologised and hopefully will appreciate a wider perspective.
Spieler 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 7:39 
I cant imagine if a president of a nation would behave like a celebrity with behavior about racism and discrimination... oh wait...
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Spieler 2017 年 2 月 19 日 上午 7:40 
I mean the KKK and far right extremist groups clap in their hands and are throwing a pork party
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