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KarasuDesu 2017 年 5 月 25 日 上午 10:43
Mobile gaming isn't true gaming
Say what ever you want, smart phone/tablet gaming is not true gaming. I hate it when someone says there a gamer but all they play is Clash of Clans or Flappy Bird. You can't change my opinion, it doesn't matter, the only true forms of gaming is PC, console, or handheld (and VR!). Mobile devices are not capable of what a true gaming device is capable of. If you want to be a true gamer, get a pc, console, or a handheld such as a PSP, PSV, or 3DS..
最后由 KarasuDesu 编辑于; 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 8:12
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Quint the Alligator Snapper 2017 年 5 月 25 日 下午 1:57 
People need to stop taking these things personally.
Fragile Waters 2017 年 5 月 25 日 下午 2:56 
引用自 Buddyboy0614
Mobile devices are not capable of what a true gaming device is capable of. If you want to be a true gamer, get a pc, console, or a handheld such as a PSP, PSV, or 3DS..
Just out of curiosity, what is it about mobile devices that makes them uncapable of being "true gaming" devices exactly? Is it because the appstores are plagued with terrible clones and knockoffs? Is it because mobile devices have a massive casual audience, that do not show much interest about the game industry? Or is it a matter of the hardware of the mobile devices themselves?

Also, why is the OP so convinced that his/her mindset is correct that he/she refuses to change it?
TwinEdgedBastard 2017 年 5 月 25 日 下午 3:57 
As much as I hate mobile for all its anti consumer practices. Playing games on a phone does make you a gamer. At least according to the definition of gamer.

Quality mobile games do exist that also have fair buisness models. It's been a while since I've played a mobile game but I do remember some good ones.

Kingdom rush
Downwell
Infinity blade
HItman GO
Bloons td5
Terraria (Im aware that it was on PC first)

Some of these were good enough to be ported and sold on PC and recieve good reception.
最后由 TwinEdgedBastard 编辑于; 2017 年 5 月 25 日 下午 3:58
hi friends 2017 年 5 月 25 日 下午 4:05 
PC gaming isn't even true gaming. go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ outside.

/s
KarasuDesu 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:10 
引用自 King Slumlord
引用自 Buddyboy0614
Mobile devices are not capable of what a true gaming device is capable of. If you want to be a true gamer, get a pc, console, or a handheld such as a PSP, PSV, or 3DS..
Just out of curiosity, what is it about mobile devices that makes them uncapable of being "true gaming" devices exactly? Is it because the appstores are plagued with terrible clones and knockoffs? Is it because mobile devices have a massive casual audience, that do not show much interest about the game industry? Or is it a matter of the hardware of the mobile devices themselves?

All of the above



引用自 King Slumlord
引用自 Buddyboy0614
Mobile devices are not capable of what a true gaming device is capable of. If you want to be a true gamer, get a pc, console, or a handheld such as a PSP, PSV, or 3DS..

Also, why is the OP so convinced that his/her mindset is correct that he/she refuses to change it?

Because, gaming is my life and I feel that mobile gaming is ruining true gaming
KarasuDesu 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:10 
引用自 OH YEAH
PC gaming isn't even true gaming. go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ outside.

/s

You sir have a lot to learn
We don't live in the 1800's anymore, video games are the future. This "outside" you speak of is stupid. Why did you even install steam if you say stuff like that?
最后由 KarasuDesu 编辑于; 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:16
KarasuDesu 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:14 
引用自 TwinEdgedBastard
As much as I hate mobile for all its anti consumer practices. Playing games on a phone does make you a gamer. At least according to the definition of gamer.

Quality mobile games do exist that also have fair buisness models. It's been a while since I've played a mobile game but I do remember some good ones.

Kingdom rush
Downwell
Infinity blade
HItman GO
Bloons td5
Terraria (Im aware that it was on PC first)

Some of these were good enough to be ported and sold on PC and recieve good reception.

Yes my good sir, you have a point. But the thing is, mobile devices have
1) Terrible Graphics
2)Horrible Controls
3)Ads ads ads

Therefore, I find video games almost unplayable on mobile devices. I play Terraria on Xbox and 3DS (I want to get it for PC), and I have checked out the mobile port, and I find it almost unplayable. And I'm pretty sure the term "gamer" has been changed a bit recently.
※Tapu Lele※ 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 4:15 
引用自 Red Monk
Define true gaming?
A game that isn't Pay to Play.
Fragile Waters 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 6:03 
引用自 Buddyboy0614
Yes my good sir, you have a point. But the thing is, mobile devices have
1) Terrible Graphics
2)Horrible Controls
3)Ads ads ads

Therefore, I find video games almost unplayable on mobile devices. I play Terraria on Xbox and 3DS (I want to get it for PC), and I have checked out the mobile port, and I find it almost unplayable. And I'm pretty sure the term "gamer" has been changed a bit recently.

>Terrible Graphics
Depends on the game. Although the hardware of mobile devices is severely limited, some games do have some very impressive graphics, considering the hardware. Asphalt 8: Airborne, and Modern Combat 5 are a couple of examples of mobile games with impressive graphics for the hardware. The games look better on PC, but that's simply due to the better hardware that most computers have. (Unless your standards on what qualifies a game's graphics to be "good" are ridiculously high.)

>Horrible Controls
If you're trying to play a first-person shooter on a tablet without using a gyroscope feature, then yes. However, some games can do have responsive controls. I've played a couple racing games that actually have some solid controls, like Asphalt 8 (Again), or Real Racing 3 (Thanks to gyroscope controls). And, if I remember correctly, there's a few Diablo-esque games, that play pretty well. Moreover, I'm pretty sure that there are controllers that you can get for your mobile devices now, so that could help massively. Again, it depends on the game, and how the controls are designed.

>Ads ads ads
If you're playing the free version of a game, sure. However, If you paid for a game, and you're still getting bombarded by ads, then that game is ♥♥♥♥.

I do agree that the mobile version of Terraria is ♥♥♥♥, and has awful controls. Hell, even Minecraft Pocket Edition has better controls than Terraria's mobile "port".
Hannah Nelson! 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 6:09 
Everyone is a gamer of this chaotic open world proceduraly generated permadeath game we call life
Walach 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 6:11 
Let's say I agree with you. Does that change anything? I don't really see why being called a gamer or not has anything to do with anything?
Maybe I'm just denser then rock but, if I'm a gamer or not, it doesn't change what I enjoy in any way as the name I might call myself doesn't factor in in anything which I enjoy.
Quint the Alligator Snapper 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 6:56 
引用自 Buddyboy0614
Because, gaming is my life and I feel that mobile gaming is ruining true gaming
Methinks you are taking this a bit too personally. Also, I should point out that PC gaming, handheld gaming, and console gaming aren't going anywhere anytime soon, so you don't need to be worried that mobile gaming is "ruining" them.

Most likely you're just noticing that your favorite way of engaging with your hobby isn't the only way that people do it. But honestly, it's nothing to worry about -- more typical forms of videogame playing are exactly disappearing; if anything they're growing.

引用自 Buddyboy0614
引用自 OH YEAH
PC gaming isn't even true gaming. go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ outside.

/s

You sir have a lot to learn
We don't live in the 1800's anymore, video games are the future. This "outside" you speak of is stupid. Why did you even install steam if you say stuff like that?
If this comment is to be taken seriously...well, you seem like you have a lot to learn too.



引用自 Buddyboy0614
Yes my good sir, you have a point. But the thing is, mobile devices have
1) Terrible Graphics
They've got bigger screens than a good number of handheld systems, and more processing power than a good number of consoles. Maybe not the consoles that you can buy new today, but...limiting oneself to that perspective neglects some three decades of gaming history, which has produced a number of very beloved works on even 8-bit and 16-bit systems that are still held in high regard today.

Anyway, mobile devices have graphical capability that's basically equivalent to a very low-end laptop of today. And that's still pretty damn powerful when you look at the whole picture.

引用自 Buddyboy0614
2)Horrible Controls
Whether any given control scheme works for someting really depends on the game, and to some extent the player's preferences. I can think of at least one game that's PC-only but would really fit well with a touchscreen (100% Orange Juice).

(Also FYI I play 2D platformers on keyboard. No gamepad.)

引用自 Buddyboy0614
2)3)Ads ads ads
Yeah, that's a problem, but only when you choose free or freemium stuff.

Besides, it's not like Steam doesn't bombard people with ads!

引用自 Buddyboy0614
2)Therefore, I find video games almost unplayable on mobile devices. I play Terraria on Xbox and 3DS (I want to get it for PC), and I have checked out the mobile port, and I find it almost unplayable. And I'm pretty sure the term "gamer" has been changed a bit recently.
The main constraint on mobile devices, in my opinion, is lack of keyboard and/or mouse. As a result I'm basically limited to playing things that don't require that much in the way of real-time inputs, so that means, of game genres that currently exist, I can play turn-based RPGs, as well as table games and puzzle games, on them.

However, touchscreen controls aren't only capable of this. Touchscreen controls are also used to do swipe motions other stuff that involves drawing and/or pointing to things on the screen -- a concept that's actually been largely unexplored by big-name games because they're sort of stuck in a rut of using a traditional gamepad for controls. The Wii, Wii U, and some other systems have started experimenting with this, though. But for now there are relatively few games that use these features in the so-called "mainstream" of gaming.

引用自 Walach
Let's say I agree with you. Does that change anything? I don't really see why being called a gamer or not has anything to do with anything?
Maybe I'm just denser then rock but, if I'm a gamer or not, it doesn't change what I enjoy in any way as the name I might call myself doesn't factor in in anything which I enjoy.
I think OP is just feeling a sort of resentment against how mobile gaming isn't what he thinks of gaming but it's getting popular, so it seems like his way of enjoying games is getting less popular.
KarasuDesu 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 8:01 
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I think OP is just feeling a sort of resentment against how mobile gaming isn't what he thinks of gaming but it's getting popular, so it seems like his way of enjoying games is getting less popular. [/quote]

Wow, never looked at it that way. Yeah, I guess you could say that. Whenever I think about the future of gaming, I see everything VR compaitable, and soon something like a NerveGear would be made (search it up if you don't watch anime). But then, when I look around me and do research, it seems that the future of gaming rests in mobile devices hands, due to almost everyone having one. Therefore, it angers me. There are many other reasons for me thinking that mobile isn't true gaming, but I can't explain it correctly without making me sound dumb, therefore I will not explain it.
[FFK3] Trovaa 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 8:07 
you people are pretty damn stupid if you think the concept "true gaming" exists to a point further than "playing games for fun on any platform"
KarasuDesu 2017 年 5 月 26 日 下午 8:10 
you people are pretty damn stupid if you think the concept "true gaming" exists to a point further than "playing games for fun on any platform"

That's called casual gaming. When I say true gaming I mean hardcore gaming.
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