I Have a Toshiba I3 with Intel HD 3000 and...

[The Brown Hornet]

I have yet to install a game that doesn't work! Why do some hardcore gamers and longtime Steam members always down integrated graphics? I've read many threads where a person new to Steam or pc gaming in general (like myself) will ask if their pc with intel graphics can run a game and its not long before they get a ton of No, intel sucks, get a new pc, etc...

Well today I'm going to let it be known that I am a big fan of Intel HD 3000, as a casual gamer (and new to steam) I am easily running the Crysis series, Blacklight Retribution, L4D2, TF2, Gotham City Imposters, Alien Swarm, and will be installing Orange Box and Fallout series very soon, all these games run smooth, look good, and sound good on my so called low end pc.

I understand some of you like to go all out and buy overly expensive pc's and graphic cards but is that really necessary? I'm sure its nice but maybe I dont know what I'm missing; I look on youtube at games running at the highest resolutions and they dont look all that different from my gaming experience!? So to all casual gamers with "budget" pc's, don't let anybody tell you intel hd 3000 can't run these games cause it can and it does it well!!!

[Granada]

Fine, but in comparison with Llano, Trinity... no chance. Even Brazos...

[76561198071786755]

I am doing the same with laptop, Counter-strike source runs fine on integrated graphics reaching up to 120fps TF2 has around 60fps.. Playable... I would always consider a half decent graphic card to play more detailed games like crysis2.

[The Brown Hornet]

Ernesto Horo님이 먼저 게시:

Fine, but in comparison with Llano, Trinity... no chance. Even Brazos...

Not sure what any of that is? Graphic cards? As a casual gamer I only need the basics and thats pretty much what intel hd 3000 provides, thats good enough for me

[Tusken GA]

MYT MIKE님이 먼저 게시:

Ernesto Horo님이 먼저 게시:

Fine, but in comparison with Llano, Trinity... no chance. Even Brazos...

Not sure what any of that is? Graphic cards? As a casual gamer I only need the basics and thats pretty much what intel hd 3000 provides, thats good enough for me

Those are AMD's answer to Intel's integrated graphics + CPU chips. Thing is, Intel had to do all the grunt work on their own to get where they are in terms of performance. AMD bought Nvidia's primary competitor ATI. Graphically Llano will outperform Intel's offering at this point in time because it is actually running ATI graphics.

Jargon jargon jargon. Sorry. Those are the code names of AMD's (Intel's primary competitor) integrated graphics + CPU chips.

[Staryn]

People here do like to criticize the HD 3000 graphics, but I am very impressed with them. It's handled everything I've thrown at it without any problems. It's not the best performance, but considering its integrated, it's decent. I had written out Intel's integrated graphics a long time ago, but I've had to change that opinion.

[_I_]

facebook games would work fine on it
most flash games should work too

intel cards suck for any 3d rendering

[The Brown Hornet]

_I_님이 먼저 게시:

facebook games would work fine on it
most flash games should work too

intel cards suck for any 3d rendering

Apparently you've never used HD 3000 or better

[Staryn]

_I_님이 먼저 게시:

facebook games would work fine on it
most flash games should work too

intel cards suck for any 3d rendering

Okay then...

No More Room In Hell on HD 3000: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=96904603

Civilization V on HD 3000: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=94839421

Half-Life 2 on HD 3000: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=90805811

Portal 2 on HD 3000: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=90805072

Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition on HD 3000: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=93024814

Notice the pattern here? The only game with any framerate problems is Civ V, because it doesn't matter much for that game.

[The Brown Hornet]

^Bravo!!! I'm tired of this community lying and scaring off potential gamers just cause they dont have the latest and greatest specs

[Granada]

This is more about telling the people what is worth to get for gaming - and the HD 3000 is much less powerful for the money compared to AMD pendants. Half Life 2 is almost a decade old, Portal 2 is still based on the same graphics engine, also Street Fighter IV came in 2008 and has technically not changed, Civ V came in late 2010 and can be threated as a relatively modern game - and as you mentioned it doesn`t run very well.
So thats the situation and it`s simply not impressing! :oP ;)

[_I_]

agreed

taking a ss of a game 10 yrs old is not impressive

im sure it will struggle with games 5yrs old on high
take a ss of it playing crysis on med/low at 30+fps 1920x1080 and ill call it equil to a 4250

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKmJDspI0r4

[Hazorazor]

I used intel intergrated graphics for 6 months once and really absolutely dislike it (although there is a place where it is useful such as video encoding and also older directx 9 games) but seriously AMD's Trinity APU's are way better (appart from shear processing power) but really if you want to play games and your not casual go for a dedicated gpu, even a $200 is way better than intergrated. But as the OP said he is a casual gamer so there in his case no point for a dedicated gpu.

[The Brown Hornet]

I think a lot of you are referring to "intel hd" as being of bad quality for gaming, However HD 3000 (4000) is a big step up

[Staryn]

I'm not saying that HD 3000 is the best for gaming, I'm refuting the argument that it cannot be used for 3D games. I would be glad to do a screenshot or video of Crysis on HD 3000 at 1920x1080, except I don't own Crysis and my screen doesn't support that resolution.

I realize that Half-Life 2 is an old game, and Portal 2 is based on it. But Super Street Fighter 4 is a very demanding game, especially when fire effects are in use (as my screenshot shows). I've seen computers choke on those conditions, but SF4 runs perfectly.

Civ V has a low framerate because I'm using max graphics settings (with antialiasing disabled). When I decrease the settings, my performance is excellent.

The point is, HD 3000 is more than competent to run modern 3D games. We're not talking optimal rates, we're talking the ability to comfortably run games without problems.

So here's a video showing that Crysis will run on HD 3000: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUCmXwbsUec

I've also been able to run Arkham Asylum with no problems on this PC. There has not been a single modern 3D game I've installed that would not run.

[The Brown Hornet]

Crysis I see has quite a reputation for testing the graphic capabilities of a pc. Of all the games I've installed so far Crysis has indeed required the most settings tinkering. At highest resolution it definitely stalls but I lowered it to 1024-640? (something like that I forget) put shading, water effects, and all that stuff on medium, and viola it runs fine. I have yet to get through the first jungle stage but thats because I'm a crappy player not cause of the integrated graphics..