Building ITX rig... Need a little help. A10 or I3...

[Cthulhu Dad]

So here is my little problem, I wanna build a good ITX setup for gaming. Mostly cuz I do alot of lan parties with my freinds. However I have to know if someone can answer me just this question...

Is the AMD A10 6800k any good processor wise? Or should i go with the I3 4330 but the only thing that bothers me is it's only two cores 4 if hyperthreading assuming the game i would be playing even supports it and with the "next gen" consoles coming out supposevly they are going to step up to the plate and make games utilize more cores... Also i'm kinda on a small budget 150$ on the processor...

I already ordered my case. The new EVGA Hadron (Cuz it looks ♥♥♥♥ing badass ), Got the Motherboard, Just need the Processor. I already have a dedicated GPU and memory.


If i buy that chip am I gone have a real bad time or my flippers gonna be happily tickled?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

My advice would be to get i3-4130 for $130, upgrade it later to i5-4670K when you have the money and sell the i3-4130.
Or you could try to get some $40-50 more to your budget and get i5-4570, then you would not need to upgrade later.

[Cthulhu Dad]

Yeah I'm thinking about saving, but i'm not sure if i should really get this now like if my job falls through then im ♥♥♥♥ out of luck but if i get an i3 ill be able to play games even if ♥♥♥♥ does hit the fan... Just hope my job doesn't fall through walmart fires people like candy on halloween.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

i3 would last you quite a while, I dont think there is currently any game out there that would have too much problem with it.

[The Rock God]

Silky původně napsal:

I already ordered my case. The new EVGA Hadron (Cuz it looks ♥♥♥♥ing badass ), Got the Motherboard, Just need the Processor. I already have a dedicated GPU and memory.

If you have the mobo, why are you asking about using an AMD CPU? What motherboard do you even have?

[Cthulhu Dad]

Alright so my final build will be pretty much this
what do you think?

Sapphire AMD 7850 1GB
EVGA Hydron ITX chassis
8GB 1600mhz
Intel core i3 4130 3.4ghz
500 watt 80+ Gold rated PSU

Eh looking at it now that actually does sound pretty damn good not the best but pretty good for a lan PC to start with. Wish i had enough cash for a Asus GTX 670 mini and the i7 4770k then id really be kicking ass.

[Cthulhu Dad]

bu_chengshi původně napsal:

Silky původně napsal:

I already ordered my case. The new EVGA Hadron (Cuz it looks ♥♥♥♥ing badass ), Got the Motherboard, Just need the Processor. I already have a dedicated GPU and memory.

If you have the mobo, why are you asking about using an AMD CPU? What motherboard do you even have?

Well i have 2 actually, one that a freind gave me that has an fm2 socket since he was retarded and bought the wrong board, and the one I bought which has a LGA 1150... just can't decide which really to put in my PC really depends on the processor. Sounds like i3 is my best bet though. As for the fm2 probably throw it in for a server build or something.

[senseidongen]

If you're not going to use the IGPU, there's literally no point getting an A10. However, the Athlon X4 760K is the exact same chip with the IGPU disabled and is much, much cheaper (in the UK, £110 vs. £65) and because all the thermal headroom is used for the CPU, it should out-perform the A10 by staying at turbo clocks longer.

The Athlon will have better multi-threaded performance but weaker single threaded performance compared to the i3. Considering you already have a board for both, you might be better off saving money on the Athlon, but that's up to you. Either will be fine

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Nvm that PSU question. didnt know that Hadron comes with built-in PSU since this is really new case, just launched.
It looks damn impressive actually, can even fit a Titan!

[Rove]

A10-6800K
http://www.passmark.com/cpubenchmark/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+A10-6800K+APU&id=1935

I3-4130
http://www.passmark.com/cpubenchmark/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-4130+%40+3.40GHz&id=2015

As you can see their passmark scores are very similar.

Personally I'd get the A10 because it can later be overclocked if you get a good cooler. For mini-ITX I would recommend a 120mm radiator watercooler with 2 stacked fans in push-pull configuration. This takes heat directly out of the case which is bound to be pretty small and not a great place to vent heat into.

Here is one that is fairly silent:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermaltake-cpu-cooler-clw0216

You can also underclock and undervolt it to make it use less power.

Also the A10 has much nicer integrated graphics which may be able to aid the CPU for some things even when using a separate GPU.

I also like the A10 because it's the top of it's line and makes me feel like they did their best.

I'm an AMD fan and I like the extra cores, somehow I think they might end up being more powerful and as it stands it is equal in the benchmarks.

In it's favor the i3 has lower TDP, almost 1/2 the TDP of the AMD.

[_I_]

if your getting a dedicated gpu, i3 or i5


if you want a lower profile silent cooler, cm n520 is around $30-40
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr920n520gp

[Cthulhu Dad]

hmm sounds like the i3 and the A10 are both pretty much equal... I could always flip a coin on it lol that always seems to work out. But yeah if I go with the A10 ill need a liquidcooler. But that AMD 760k sounds like quite the thing to think about, at only 89.99 on newegg. Dunno how the actual benchmark scores are on it though. Can't seem to find any.

Rumpelcrutchskin původně napsal:

Nvm that PSU question. didnt know that Hadron comes with built-in PSU since this is really new case, just launched.
It looks damn impressive actually, can even fit a Titan!

It really does lol, probably the best looking mini ITX case i've seen yet. Besides the ibuypower revolt but they like every other big prebuilt franchise just wont ever sell their case without all the shenanigan hardware.

Actually http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/142/AMD_Athlon_X4_750K_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-4130.html so theorectically since the i3 has better single thread performance wouldn't it be better for games? plus the much much lower tdp. The only thing is the 750k is cheaper, but the i3 offers much much better upgradability options. Hm, depending on what happens ill probably get both. But for now i think im going to do the safe bet and get the i3 4130 and the 760k for a future server build. thanks everyone :D

[senseidongen]

Well in general at the moment you'd be right but some games do benefit more from better threaded performance. I don't think you'd see a very noticeable difference given your GPU to be honest! But yeah, the i3 on the 1150 socket has more scope for future upgrades but also costs more so it's up to you and whether you can see yourself upgrading :)