AMD FX-6100 VS AMD FX-6300

[President Xi Jinping]

Hey everyone,

I have an AMD FX-6100 for my computer as of right now but I'm wondering If there is something better out there in terms of processors by AMD. It has to be AMD because I don't plan on rebuilding my entire PC anytime soon. I have heard that the FX-6300 is currently the best AMD processor for gaming. Was just wonering if this is true and If it would be worth while to upgrade. Also if it isn't true, then what wold be the best AMD processor for gaming purposes.

My other specs:
8GB DDR3 RAM
Gigabyte AM3+ motherboard
650W power supply
Radeon HD 6850

[Wampum Biskit]

why not just go for an 8350 if it's in your budget or a 8320 if your budget is a bit lower ?.

that is ofcourse if the MB can handle the 125 watt CPU.

[_I_]

what board?

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

[President Xi Jinping]

http://ca.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3894#bios

That's my board, also is the 8350 the best AMD one possible? If so then I'd probably go for that.

[_I_]

if you do lots of video editing or multitasking, get the 8 core (8350)
if its for gaming or not alot of heavily threaded programs, the 6core (6300) will do for about half the price

you can always get a 212evo and overclock the 6300 if needed
its a 95w cpu and will have alot of headroom in that board (8+2 can do 140+w without any problems)

[Rove]

I do not recommend a upgrade of the CPU at this time. It's a good CPU and should remain so for several years. 6300 or 8320 or 8350 are all relatively small upgrades and now that you have bought the 6100 they are not worth it.

Wait till you can get a processor with at least 2-3 times better performance before you upgrade.

What is the problem that makes you want to upgrade? Have you monitored system performance to see your CPU, RAM and GPU use and see which is getting used the most?

If you are wanting higher performance in games then you probably need a new GPU (graphics card) and not a new CPU. The AMD FX 6100 will not bottleneck a HD 7950 or 7970 and if you have one of those you should be laughing at least in terms of gaming.

If you are doing professional work and have noticed the CPU running maximum all the time and taking longer than you want then maybe you do need the upgrade or maybe you should switch to GPU accelerated software.

Games barely even use my AMD FX 8150.

If you are set on a CPU upgrade for whatever reason then I recommend waiting till 3rd gen FX or even 4th gen FX if it will fit the socket, but it may not because DDR4. Still wait to at least see if 3rd gen does because 2nd gen will only get cheaper meanwhile.

EDIT:
After re-reading your post and seeing system specs I can see that your system should be pretty good right now and I might be thinking about upgrades next year if it was mine.

[upcoast]

http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performance/page6.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8350_8320_6300_processor_4300_performance_review,10.html

8350 is the best overclocked 4.5ghz.

6100 to 6300 some what of a sideways upgrade.

Therer is a 6350 but why not overclock the crap out of the 6100, sell the 6850 then put that $75 with the $180 that you're not going to spend on an 8350 then take $255 and get a better vid card.

Option 2 , overclock the crap out of the 6100, buy another used 6850 $75ish or 6870 $85ish and xfire them.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_hd_7970_crossfire_review,15.html

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/his-hd6870-crossfirex-review/7/

[President Xi Jinping]

Postat inițial de Rove:

I do not recommend a upgrade of the CPU at this time. It's a good CPU and should remain so for several years. 6300 or 8320 or 8350 are all relatively small upgrades and now that you have bought the 6100 they are not worth it.

Wait till you can get a processor with at least 2-3 times better performance before you upgrade.

What is the problem that makes you want to upgrade? Have you monitored system performance to see your CPU, RAM and GPU use and see which is getting used the most?

If you are wanting higher performance in games then you probably need a new GPU (graphics card) and not a new CPU. The AMD FX 6100 will not bottleneck a HD 7950 or 7970 and if you have one of those you should be laughing at least in terms of gaming.

If you are doing professional work and have noticed the CPU running maximum all the time and taking longer than you want then maybe you do need the upgrade or maybe you should switch to GPU accelerated software.

Games barely even use my AMD FX 8150.

If you are set on a CPU upgrade for whatever reason then I recommend waiting till 3rd gen FX or even 4th gen FX if it will fit the socket, but it may not because DDR4. Still wait to at least see if 3rd gen does because 2nd gen will only get cheaper meanwhile.

EDIT:
After re-reading your post and seeing system specs I can see that your system should be pretty good right now and I might be thinking about upgrades next year if it was mine.

Well the thing is the 6100 isn't even close to the level of an i5 or something like that. I've heard that even the phenom II x4 is better! I just haven't been in the loop for a while and have extra money so I was curious about upgrade potential. I just recently got my video card last year and it serves me well, but I'm fairly confident that the CPU is whats holding my comp back.

By the way thanks for all of the suggestions and help guys, I really appreciate it! :D

[Rove]

Dude wait tiill next year and save a bit more money.

DDR4 RAM!

When DDR4 RAM comes out replace motherboard, CPU and RAM all at once but you need to save more cash to afford that I bet so get saving and do not upgrade yet.

[Rove]

Wrong, but in like 5 years you will be looking back at the FX series and be going all like, OMG! those things were such awesome gaming CPUs, I wish I'd had one!

Just like many previous generations of their top CPUs. Misunderstood at release and later celebrated as ahead of their time once they were getting old.

[_I_]

if its a new budget build <$500 get an amd apu build
if its a new build with a budget over $600 get an i3 or i5 build

since you already have a am3+ board capable of 140+w cpus
get the cheaper of the two cpus

the speeds are not far off about 200mhz
6100 = 3.3/3.9
6300 = 3.5/4.1

newegg has the 6300 for $110 shipped
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286

if you want to do a new boad/cpu and are near a microcenter
http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/default.aspx
i5 4670k + msi z87-410 = $265+tax

[Rove]

The FX 8350 is the best that fits your board. I do not recommend a CPU upgrade, but if you really want to then at least get a 8 core.

[upcoast]

Postat inițial de xHomesliceboyx:

Postat inițial de Rove:

I do not recommend a upgrade of the CPU at this time. It's a good CPU and should remain so for several years. 6300 or 8320 or 8350 are all relatively small upgrades and now that you have bought the 6100 they are not worth it.

Wait till you can get a processor with at least 2-3 times better performance before you upgrade.

What is the problem that makes you want to upgrade? Have you monitored system performance to see your CPU, RAM and GPU use and see which is getting used the most?

If you are wanting higher performance in games then you probably need a new GPU (graphics card) and not a new CPU. The AMD FX 6100 will not bottleneck a HD 7950 or 7970 and if you have one of those you should be laughing at least in terms of gaming.

If you are doing professional work and have noticed the CPU running maximum all the time and taking longer than you want then maybe you do need the upgrade or maybe you should switch to GPU accelerated software.

Games barely even use my AMD FX 8150.

If you are set on a CPU upgrade for whatever reason then I recommend waiting till 3rd gen FX or even 4th gen FX if it will fit the socket, but it may not because DDR4. Still wait to at least see if 3rd gen does because 2nd gen will only get cheaper meanwhile.

EDIT:
After re-reading your post and seeing system specs I can see that your system should be pretty good right now and I might be thinking about upgrades next year if it was mine.

Well the thing is the 6100 isn't even close to the level of an i5 or something like that. I've heard that even the phenom II x4 is better! I just haven't been in the loop for a while and have extra money so I was curious about upgrade potential. I just recently got my video card last year and it serves me well, but I'm fairly confident that the CPU is whats holding my comp back.

By the way thanks for all of the suggestions and help guys, I really appreciate it! :D

To answer some of the questions.

Yes the 6100 isn't close to the i5 on gaming front.

Yes a x4 965BE is better in the gaming ring with exception BF3 multi player you'r better off with the 6100.

I understand you just got the 6850 last year but it is not much better than a gtx280 oc'd (I own them both).

When I xfired the 6850 games play fantastic, crysis 2 was like night and day from1 6850 to 2 6850s. Xfire has a bit of a learning curve but the pay off is great.

Long and short your 6850 is holding you back much more than the cpu.

[President Xi Jinping]

I think some people are getting a little bit off topic, but I do like this discussion so keep it going if possible.

Postat inițial de upcoast:

To answer some of the questions.

Yes the 6100 isn't close to the i5 on gaming front.

Yes a x4 965BE is better in the gaming ring with exception BF3 multi player you'r better off with the 6100.

I understand you just got the 6850 last year but it is not much better than a gtx280 oc'd (I own them both).

When I xfired the 6850 games play fantastic, crysis 2 was like night and day from1 6850 to 2 6850s. Xfire has a bit of a learning curve but the pay off is great.

Long and short your 6850 is holding you back much more than the cpu.

I didn't even realize this was possible lol. I have heard so many bad reviews for the FX series that I thought for sure it was my CPU holding me back.

[_I_]

if you have the 6100 there is no sense in upgrading it

[upcoast]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1140459/bulldozer-overclocking-guide-performance-scaling-charts-max-ocs-ln2-results-coming

Overclocking ^^^.

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/amds-fx-8150-vs-core-i7-phenom-ii-bulldozer-arrives/8/

Might be a xfire problem on am3+ bulldozer gen 4100/6100/8150, could have been old drivers but there was a problem fyi.

I'm on 790x/ Pll x4 965be so no problem for me.