Haha pretty much lol 2013 年 6 月 24 日 下午 1:40
Any decent gaming computers under $800?
I want a decent gaming computer, but I have a really low budget. I also don't want to build one because I don't want to break anything and I don't know what kinds of parts are decent. I may consider building my next computer, but for now, I just want to buy one. I need to buy a new one anyway, so should I just buy a really cheap computer and a PS4 or a computer that costs around $600-$800? I really want a lot of the PS4 explusives, but I prefer a mouse and keyboard, and there are also a few exclusives I want on PC that I want, but not as many as PS4. If the graphics are about the same as PS4, I'd rather get a PS4, but if they're better, I'd rather have PC. Any suggestions for decent, cheap gaming PCs?
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Haha pretty much lol 2013 年 6 月 24 日 下午 10:37 
引用自 19delta3
If you want a prebuilt rig, go with Cyberpower, wait for the 4th of July sale, and wait for the last day of the sale (usually free shipping). You can use their configurators to have them build a rig according to your budget, including the operating system and peripherals.

I got my Cyberpower rig a couple of weeks ago, and I couldn't be happier. They notify you by e-mail during each step of the process - from the building part, to the quality control inspection, and then e-mail your tracking number, and an estimated delivery date, and for me it was spot on.

Even their post-sale customer support is outstanding, as I had a question about the Windows 8 activation key - and it turns out, that for my W8, the key was hardcoded into the mobo (BIOS??), and it would self-activate on first-boot.

Zero issues with the pc so far, and you get a full year warranty for parts and labor, and then a three year warranty for all parts on top of that.

Building a pc is cheaper, but I got this rig for $878.00 -

Windows 8 64bit (and you get a physical disc as well)
Asus P8 Z77-V LK Mobo (sli/crossfire capable, pci-e 3.0, USB 3.0)
Realtek onboard 7.1 audio
Core I5 3570K 3.4 ghz (3.8 ghz turbo)
8 gigs of Corsair DDR3 1600 mhz Ram
GTX 650 pci-e 3.0, 1 gig GDDR5 (much faster card then I thought it would be)
Corsair CX 750 - 750 Watt power supply (sli/crossfire capable)
Azetek CPU Liquid cooler
1 TB Toshiba 7200 RPM Hard Drive
DVD/CD player/burner
Thermaltake Commander series case
Azza Gaming keyboard
Azza Gaming mouse

They also include the sli bridge, and the mobo box, cables, accessories, etc.

I am very pleased with my rig, and I consider it a lot of bang for my buck, despite what pc builder purists have to say. I can play Saint's Row the Third maxed out in 1080p (med aa, fxaa?? can't remember) in DirectX 11, and it is completely smooth (just for an example) - not even a whimper. And I'll be getting a GTX 760 in a few months, and then another one to sli next year.

My experience with them was litterally flawless, but of course, individual results may vary.

Good luck.

(Remember to build and purchase from Cyberpower's website, as buying Cyberpower rigs on Newegg or Amazon means that they were already built without your input, and are less cost-effective, and probably have a lesser warranty).

I forgot to mention that my operating system was preinstalled, as well as all drivers with the latest versions. All I had to do was boot-up, log-in, and download and install Windows 8 updates. How is that for service?

Where I focused the bulk of my $900.00 budget was on the the upgradability (ie, sli/crossfire mobo, sli/crossfire power supply, etc.), not on the out of the box (initially) playability (super fast gpu). Many here will tell you to do the exact opposite, but in the end, if you are on a tight budget and can save up for a much better card - or two, something has got to give, and investing for upgradability with high quality parts turned out to be a wise choice.

And my GTX 650 placeholder card is much, much faster than I ever dared to dream. Maybe it's the I5, mobo, ram, and psu, that really help as well. I am saving up for a couple of GTX 760's currently, and after that, this rig (while not the fastest gaming machine), will be a more than respectable - gaming beast.
Thanks for the help. I didn't expect this much detail, so thank you for all the tips. I'm hoping to get this pretty soon so I don't have to run TF2 on low settings.
GrandmasterZach 2013 年 6 月 24 日 下午 11:45 
I faced a similar problem that you are right now. Back when the xbox 360 was big and first coming out, my buddies all got it. I had never gotten into video games, but I knew I wanted to start. I had to choose between consoles, (easy to get up and running, great exclusives, and i'd get to play with all my friends), or get a PC (difficult to set up/build, I didn't know what kind of community there was, I had no clue what games I would be able to get). I had always heard of legendary PC graphics and so forth, and in the end I decided to get a computer. Luckily, I made the right choice. My best friend is actually a computer engineer, and I got in touch with him to help me build my first rig. I told him what kinds of games I wanted to play, and he selected my parts and we built it together. Although difficult, building your own PC is extremely fun. You really feel like you worked for it and it's so much more satisfying booting it up than a rectangle out of a box and pressing a button. It's kind of daunting at first, but once you learn a little about it, it's the easiest thing in the world.

My first rig was pretty crappy, only a tri-core AMD processor, a AMD 5450 with 512 MB of VRAM, 4GB of DDR3 (RAM), a 300 watt power supply, and a 1TB hard drive. This was about 3 or 4 years ago, and I think it cost me around $500 (But with the advance of technology, today you could get a much better rig for the same price). From there, I first upgraded the GPU, then the power supply, and then the CPU, etc etc, and here I am 3 years later, with a monster of a PC that can play any game I please on max settings.

Although, if you have a bigger budget, like the $800 you mentioned, buying a pre-built isn't a wrong move. If you want something less complicated to get you started, it's a very good idea. Listen to what the man above me said, he knows what he's talking about. I've always heard that iBuyPower is a great manufacturer. However, if you're willing to build your own, shop on Newegg (has the best prices in the business, along with a 3-part tutorial specifically designed to beginners building their first PC. It covers selecting the right parts, actually assembling the computer, and loading the OS onto the hard drive). And if you need help, you can always message me on Steam and i'll help you as much as I can. Always willing to get another person into PC gaming :).

By the way, there's nothing wrong with going console, but seriously, PC gaming has one of the best communities in the world. Better graphics, mods, people who are willing to help newcomers, and less screaming kids than xbox live and PSnetwork. I hope I helped a little, good luck!

P.S. If you decide on PC, congratulations!
最後修改者:GrandmasterZach; 2013 年 6 月 24 日 下午 11:47
Haha pretty much lol 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 12:04 
引用自 The Fixer
I faced a similar problem that you are right now. Back when the xbox 360 was big and first coming out, my buddies all got it. I had never gotten into video games, but I knew I wanted to start. I had to choose between consoles, (easy to get up and running, great exclusives, and i'd get to play with all my friends), or get a PC (difficult to set up/build, I didn't know what kind of community there was, I had no clue what games I would be able to get). I had always heard of legendary PC graphics and so forth, and in the end I decided to get a computer. Luckily, I made the right choice. My best friend is actually a computer engineer, and I got in touch with him to help me build my first rig. I told him what kinds of games I wanted to play, and he selected my parts and we built it together. Although difficult, building your own PC is extremely fun. You really feel like you worked for it and it's so much more satisfying booting it up than a rectangle out of a box and pressing a button. It's kind of daunting at first, but once you learn a little about it, it's the easiest thing in the world.

My first rig was pretty crappy, only a tri-core AMD processor, a AMD 5450 with 512 MB of VRAM, 4GB of DDR3 (RAM), a 300 watt power supply, and a 1TB hard drive. This was about 3 or 4 years ago, and I think it cost me around $500 (But with the advance of technology, today you could get a much better rig for the same price). From there, I first upgraded the GPU, then the power supply, and then the CPU, etc etc, and here I am 3 years later, with a monster of a PC that can play any game I please on max settings.

Although, if you have a bigger budget, like the $800 you mentioned, buying a pre-built isn't a wrong move. If you want something less complicated to get you started, it's a very good idea. Listen to what the man above me said, he knows what he's talking about. I've always heard that iBuyPower is a great manufacturer. However, if you're willing to build your own, shop on Newegg (has the best prices in the business, along with a 3-part tutorial specifically designed to beginners building their first PC. It covers selecting the right parts, actually assembling the computer, and loading the OS onto the hard drive). And if you need help, you can always message me on Steam and i'll help you as much as I can. Always willing to get another person into PC gaming :).

By the way, there's nothing wrong with going console, but seriously, PC gaming has one of the best communities in the world. Better graphics, mods, people who are willing to help newcomers, and less screaming kids than xbox live and PSnetwork. I hope I helped a little, good luck!

P.S. If you decide on PC, congratulations!
Thanks. I think I might ckeck out the tutorial on Newegg and consider building a PC, but I think I might just get a prebuilt PC for now. Also, I was wondering, but are there really as many "PC master race"-type people who think anyone on console is a ♥♥♥ and should kill themselves? I see a lot of those types of comments on Youtube, but with how long I've been on youtube, I know it tends to attract a crappy troll comunity.
Rove 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 12:05 
May I suggest build a $500-600 rig and don't worry about breaking stuff so much? You probably won't break anything. It all comes with a warranty and a manual.

Building your own PC is the best way to go. I found it very rewarding. It's a game in itself.

Here take this build for example for $635~:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1a1Hb

On a $800 budget you still have got room for a 1920*1080 21.5 inch monitor and some $20-30 speakers in case you need both those things.

If you've already got that covered, then look at it this way. You can afford to break any 1 single part and replace it and still stay on budget. I really don't think you will break anything.

If it arrives broken then you probably get free replacement.

This build should technically beat the PS4 and it is upgradeable which the PS4 is not.
最後修改者:Rove; 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 12:10
Haha pretty much lol 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 12:08 
引用自 Rove
May I suggest build a $500-600 rig and don't worry about breaking stuff so much? You probably won't break anything. It all comes with a warranty and a manual.

Building your own PC is the best way to go.

Here take this build for example for $635~:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1a1Hb

On a $800 budget you still have got room for a 1920*1080 21.5 inch monitor and some $20-30 speakers in case you need both those things.

If you've already got that covered, then look at it this way. You can afford to break any 1 single part and replace it and still stay on budget. I really don't think you will break anything.

If it arrives broken then you probably get free replacement.

This build should technically beat the PS4 and it is upgradeable which the PS4 is not.
Thanks. I'm hoping to build a PC soon, but I might want to stick to a prebuilt one right now. I might try it though.

I'll be sad that I can't play Infamous: Second Son or any other PC exclusives, but I'm thinking the advantages of PC might outweigh that.
Rove 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 12:22 
Try it, I urge you to. It's like building a model or a jigsaw puzzle with a manual.

I had the same anxiety as you but you just need to get on with it and do it.
DemonOtterGames 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 1:32 
Once you build a computer, you may feel bad for buying a prebuilt computer. I know I regret buying prebuilt stuff. At any rate, you could always have someone build it for you.

So just at the end of last year, my own laptop died and I had a little more than $800 to build a pc. This is what I came up with, first time building a pc! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1a2jB
Should you choose to try this build out, id advise investing in an aftermarket cooling unit. The stock one is kinda loud but it gets the job done well.

This PC build vs PS4: Is this even a contest? The ps4 will remain the same until its decade lifespan is over! Learning about PC's and how to build them will be most benificial especially if there's ever a time where consoles cease to exsist. The build recommended will out do the ps4 for a limited time. However, upgrade the parts a bit when you have the money and then you have a pc that beats the ps4 always. Also, depending on what you play on pc, no stupid montly subscription fees, better game deals, and generally more you can do.

Custom build vs Prebuilt:
I have learned that a lot of prebuilt machines are overpriced and they always have advertizing crap and crap antivirus on them. A custom build has a lot less advertizing crap in it and you can actually choose to not install norton or mac afee and install Avast or Kasperski or what ever you want and save some of your time. Chances are, your custom build will out preform any prebuilt machine unless they are the super expensive ones with all the latest hardware.
Pant 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 5:39 
I had the same idea when I wanted to get into PC gaming. I wanted to build my own but I was scared that I would mess up. The thing is though that it's piss easy, I watched some youtube video's and read a PC gamer mag that had a step by step guide about a zillion times, though most of that was being nervous and waiting for money and parts. When I finally got everything and was ready to assemble it I was freaked out but I realized that I had no reason to be freaked out. I wasn't on a time limit, I didn't have to build it in a day or a few hours. I could take as long as I wanted to, in the end it took me about 3 hours, about an hour of that was cable management because I'm a little OCD so I wanted it to be perfect. I had no issues getting it up and running and one hour after it first booting up I was benchmarking my system. Probably the best channel on youtube to learn from is Linus Tech Tips. Linus's videos are extremely well made and best of all are in English that the less knowledgeable of us can understand. He also runs a forum that has the best community on the entire internet hands down. Avoid asking questions on youtube, there are way too many trolls.

In the end I found actually building the computer was easy and fun, I treated every part like it was made of glass. They are actually more durable than you think but if it's your first time doing it then there's nothing wrong with being too careful. Have a clean large work area, I took over the dining room table and chairs, covered the table in cardboard for padding and covered that in a layer of brown packing paper so I could have a soft smooth work area. I used to chairs to hold various tools, screwdrivers, a few different sets of pliers, zipties and twistties and other chairs to hold parts and boxes. All in all it was probably the most organized thing I've ever done in my life.

A few final tips, lockup all pets and siblings. If that can't be done then guard your assembly area jelously, careless sticky fingers and pet hair are things you want to avoid. I wouldn't bring a drink near your pc while your assembling it, I set mine on another table out of the way to avoid spills or condensation from the drink getting on any of the parts, and no food at all. Wash your hands before you touch any of the parts to get rid of any body oils on your hands and finally if I had to leave the table for any length of time I would close my pc's case or cover it with something. You dont HAVE to do any of this, I know I probably went a little overboard with some of my measures but I had spent alot more than $800 on my PC so I saw no problem with overdoing it.

After all if it's worth doing, then its worth overdoing.


By the way, PC's will always be the way to go. As others have said a PS4 or an Xbox will have the same specs until they are replaced in a few years and there's no way around it, a desktop isn't limited like that, you could start with a $450 rig and end up with a $3000 rig. The only limiting factors with a desktop is your wallet and the currently available tech.
最後修改者:Pant; 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 5:42
banzaigtv 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 5:59 
The PC I purchased over two years ago is an HP Pavilion Elite. It came equipped with an Intel Core i7-950 processor, 12 GB RAM, Radeon HD 6770 video card, 460w power supply, Blu-ray drive, and TV Tuner. The rig, not including the monitor, was about $1400, mainly because of the extra stuff and the fact that the video card was an optional model. After two years (end of product warranty), I installed an SSD and a GTX 660 video card, and to this day, it still runs great. The product quality of HP is better than Dell, Cyberpower, Acer, etc. HP is well recommended, though rather pricey. You can start small and upgrade a few things every now and then.
Soylent_Merchant 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 6:36 
Lol the only hard part is wiring the Pc. Its mostly just a pain to find the right places,But seriousley though, if your second choice was a PS4, you might as well get a prebuilt system.However my personal advice would be to have them prebuild it with a good quality case that you can later reuse it, since the money spent towards new cases can be put towards upgrades later on. Good luck
Cystem 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 6:55 
引用自 19delta3
If you want a prebuilt rig, go with Cyberpower, wait for the 4th of July sale, and wait for the last day of the sale (usually free shipping). You can use their configurators to have them build a rig according to your budget, including the operating system and peripherals.

I got my Cyberpower rig a couple of weeks ago, and I couldn't be happier. They notify you by e-mail during each step of the process - from the building part, to the quality control inspection, and then e-mail your tracking number, and an estimated delivery date, and for me it was spot on.

Even their post-sale customer support is outstanding, as I had a question about the Windows 8 activation key - and it turns out, that for my W8, the key was hardcoded into the mobo (BIOS??), and it would self-activate on first-boot.

Zero issues with the pc so far, and you get a full year warranty for parts and labor, and then a three year warranty for all parts on top of that.

Building a pc is cheaper, but I got this rig for $878.00 -

Windows 8 64bit (and you get a physical disc as well)
Asus P8 Z77-V LK Mobo (sli/crossfire capable, pci-e 3.0, USB 3.0)
Realtek onboard 7.1 audio
Core I5 3570K 3.4 ghz (3.8 ghz turbo)
8 gigs of Corsair DDR3 1600 mhz Ram
GTX 650 pci-e 3.0, 1 gig GDDR5 (much faster card then I thought it would be)
Corsair CX 750 - 750 Watt power supply (sli/crossfire capable)
Azetek CPU Liquid cooler
1 TB Toshiba 7200 RPM Hard Drive
DVD/CD player/burner
Thermaltake Commander series case
Azza Gaming keyboard
Azza Gaming mouse

They also include the sli bridge, and the mobo box, cables, accessories, etc.

I am very pleased with my rig, and I consider it a lot of bang for my buck, despite what pc builder purists have to say. I can play Saint's Row the Third maxed out in 1080p (med aa, fxaa?? can't remember) in DirectX 11, and it is completely smooth (just for an example) - not even a whimper. And I'll be getting a GTX 760 in a few months, and then another one to sli next year.

My experience with them was litterally flawless, but of course, individual results may vary.

Good luck.

(Remember to build and purchase from Cyberpower's website, as buying Cyberpower rigs on Newegg or Amazon means that they were already built without your input, and are less cost-effective, and probably have a lesser warranty).

I forgot to mention that my operating system was preinstalled, as well as all drivers with the latest versions. All I had to do was boot-up, log-in, and download and install Windows 8 updates. How is that for service?

Where I focused the bulk of my $900.00 budget was on the the upgradability (ie, sli/crossfire mobo, sli/crossfire power supply, etc.), not on the out of the box (initially) playability (super fast gpu). Many here will tell you to do the exact opposite, but in the end, if you are on a tight budget and can save up for a much better card - or two, something has got to give, and investing for upgradability with high quality parts turned out to be a wise choice.

And my GTX 650 placeholder card is much, much faster than I ever dared to dream. Maybe it's the I5, mobo, ram, and psu, that really help as well. I am saving up for a couple of GTX 760's currently, and after that, this rig (while not the fastest gaming machine), will be a more than respectable - gaming beast.


引用自 MrPants
I had the same idea when I wanted to get into PC gaming. I wanted to build my own but I was scared that I would mess up. The thing is though that it's piss easy, I watched some youtube video's and read a PC gamer mag that had a step by step guide about a zillion times, though most of that was being nervous and waiting for money and parts. When I finally got everything and was ready to assemble it I was freaked out but I realized that I had no reason to be freaked out. I wasn't on a time limit, I didn't have to build it in a day or a few hours. I could take as long as I wanted to, in the end it took me about 3 hours, about an hour of that was cable management because I'm a little OCD so I wanted it to be perfect. I had no issues getting it up and running and one hour after it first booting up I was benchmarking my system. Probably the best channel on youtube to learn from is Linus Tech Tips. Linus's videos are extremely well made and best of all are in English that the less knowledgeable of us can understand. He also runs a forum that has the best community on the entire internet hands down. Avoid asking questions on youtube, there are way too many trolls.

In the end I found actually building the computer was easy and fun, I treated every part like it was made of glass. They are actually more durable than you think but if it's your first time doing it then there's nothing wrong with being too careful. Have a clean large work area, I took over the dining room table and chairs, covered the table in cardboard for padding and covered that in a layer of brown packing paper so I could have a soft smooth work area. I used to chairs to hold various tools, screwdrivers, a few different sets of pliers, zipties and twistties and other chairs to hold parts and boxes. All in all it was probably the most organized thing I've ever done in my life.

A few final tips, lockup all pets and siblings. If that can't be done then guard your assembly area jelously, careless sticky fingers and pet hair are things you want to avoid. I wouldn't bring a drink near your pc while your assembling it, I set mine on another table out of the way to avoid spills or condensation from the drink getting on any of the parts, and no food at all. Wash your hands before you touch any of the parts to get rid of any body oils on your hands and finally if I had to leave the table for any length of time I would close my pc's case or cover it with something. You dont HAVE to do any of this, I know I probably went a little overboard with some of my measures but I had spent alot more than $800 on my PC so I saw no problem with overdoing it.

After all if it's worth doing, then its worth overdoing.


By the way, PC's will always be the way to go. As others have said a PS4 or an Xbox will have the same specs until they are replaced in a few years and there's no way around it, a desktop isn't limited like that, you could start with a $450 rig and end up with a $3000 rig. The only limiting factors with a desktop is your wallet and the currently available tech.

Excellent answers. Bravo!
Haha pretty much lol 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 10:38 
I've heard that static electricity jumping from you to parts of the PC can damage the parts. How likely is this to happen? And how damaging is it?
Velmarshal 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 10:52 
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1a8WA
This build does not include an operating system and it's price is around 700$.

What I personally like about this build is the motherboard, 6 SATA III slots (so you can add an SSD later or extra harddrives), USB 3.0 headers (The PC case has USB 3.0 slots, so you can use USB 3.0 devices at their full speed when plugged in from both from and back), 4 RAM slots supporting up to 32Gb of DDR3 RAM, it also supports Crossfire (it doesn't support SLI, only crossfire), so you can add another 7850 later (and AMD fixed most of the issues with crossfire in their latest driver update).

So a good mobo, cpu and psu are mandatory for a "future-proof" system.
FX 6300 isn't top of the class CPU but it will do it's job. The CM 212 Evo cooler is cheap, silent and much better than AMD stock cooler (sounds like a dishwasher possesed by deamons).

RAM, Kingston Black 1600Mhz 2x4Gb - standard stuff.

GPU, 7850 saphire, first I wanted to select GTX 660 or 7870, but I skipped the 660 because of the lack of SLI support and 7870 because it's way too overpriced for it's performance.

HDD: WD Blue 7200RPM 1TB - can't get a better deal.

PSU: Corsair 650W, powerful enough to push an extra card (Though you can go for a 600W or 550W but you won't be able to get later cards which will undoubtedly require more power).

Optical drive: Bah you only need it to install the OS and retail games, they haven't changed for a decade so it's pretty much the same whichever you pick up.


So yeah, it's a good build. But if you want to go for a Intel/nvidia build, I wouldn't recommend going for it under 800$. In the Build mentioned above, GTX 650 is a borderline card, not really a good choice for a gaming build with that budget.


引用自 Batman
I've heard that static electricity jumping from you to parts of the PC can damage the parts. How likely is this to happen? And how damaging is it?

Rarely (in developed countries where you rarely loose power), but you can always get a UPS battery, which will stop almost all voltage jumps (lightning doesnt count. xD).
最後修改者:Velmarshal; 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 10:55
rotNdude 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 11:53 
Static electricity from your body when initially touching a computer can cause damage, but if you're careful by touching the case to discharge any charge on your body generally eliminates that. Just don't assemble it on carpet and in an environment that has very low humidity.

One thing to keep in mind with buying a pre-built computer versus a self-built computer is the potential for issues related to troubleshooting with no help from a builder. It may be individual component issues or OS issues. It can be a very daunting task. Sometimes it's nice to have the builder to assist you with the troubleshooting if you do have issues.
最後修改者:rotNdude; 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 11:54
upcoast 2013 年 6 月 25 日 上午 11:57 
At Velmar, I'm thinking Batman was referring to the initial build process and ESD.

It does happen but not very often, the conditions have to be extreme and the individual would need to be brain dead.

It's a common sense thing, wear cottons, don't rub feet on nylon carpet then touch ram BAD!

There are anti static wrist bands but it you use your head, keep static to minimal and discharged onto metal case frame before touching circuits it should go well.

When I first started I used the wrist band but haven't on the last 6 builds, plus I'm on a wood floor that keeps static down to min.
最後修改者:upcoast; 2013 年 6 月 25 日 下午 12:01
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