Ram Talk

[Gianni]

Hey guys i was looking iinto upgrading my ram and was wondering if a pair of good 8gb ram is better than a crappy pair of 16gb of ram let me know please if u have an answer. Also i was looking into getting corsair vengeance ram so let me know what u guys think about that

[Tidefighter]

If stable go for the bigger one

[Gianni]

ok im assuming by bigger u mean 16gb

[_I_]

get the one with lower timings (cl) and voltage
if its intel, get the 1.5v or lower kit
amd doesnt mind 1.7+v, but if you need to run it in an intel setup, it will cook the imc on the intel cpu

faster speed isnt always faster ram
simple way to compare kits
speed / cl = value (higher = better)

2400 cl10 = 240
2133 cl9 = 237
1866 cl8 = 233
1600 cl7 = 228
2400 cl11 = 218
1866 cl9 = 207
2400 cl12 = 200
1600 cl8 = 200
2133 cl11 = 193
1333 cl7 = 190
2133 cl12 = 177

once speed/cl is over 200 it makes very little difference

[Gianni]

ok thnks ill tr y to use this to see which one would be better but what do u guys think though of a good pair of 8gb of ram vs a crappy 16gb

[_I_]

2x 8g will be in dual channel mode
and 1x 16g will be single channel

for most things it wont make a huge difference, but for ram intensive tasks (video editing, vm, redering and some games ect..) it will make a noticable difference

[Gianni]

no sorry i didnt explain it enough i ment 2 sticks of ram that had 4gb in each and 4 sticks of ram that had 4gb in each which one would be better a crappy 16gb or a good 8gb

[_I_]

4x4g kit is the same as a 2x4g kit if the speed and timings are the same

on a 4x4g setup, when using different kits, put the same kits in the same colored slots

[Gianni]

well im not going to use different kits i was asking this question because right now i have 16gb of ram 4gb x 4 and there kinda crappy and i wanted to upgrade to this 8gb 4gb by 2 heres the link and wanted to know which would be better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145345

[_I_]

whats your board/cpu and current ram kit?

if its faster than 1333 cl9 dont bother replacing it, you wont notice much of a diff unless its for ram intensive tasks, or you plan on overclocking via fsb/bclk


the kit you linked, is 1600 cl9 1.5v, which is a good kit $63

here is similar kit about $18 less
Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 cl9 1.5v $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313355

or a better kit for the same price
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 cl9 1.5v $63
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231550

[Gianni]

im not sure on the ram idk the cpu is amd fx 8120 and the motherboard is asus M5A88-M
am3+ socket the rram is 16gb but probably ram that u would see from a prebuilt system

what about g skilled ripjaws ram?

ill look into the g skill ares ram

i think at this moment i am just gonna focus on saving up for a new cpu and cpu cooler and one more question do u think this cooler will be ok with this cpu?
here is the cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284
and here is the cpu cooler that i currently have http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

let me know what u think

actually dont worry about ill end up buying ram maybe at the end of this year no time soon probably

[_I_]

to check what ram you have, download cpuz

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
run cpuz -> spd tab -> select each slot
look at the xmp profiles
freq is half of the speed if its in dual channel (check memory tab, channel #)

533 is 1066, 667 is 1333, 800 is 1600 ect..
and lower timings are better, cl9 is common

if its 1333 cl9 or better dont worry about getting faster ram

the 212+ is an excellent cooler for 125w cpus

[Gianni]

ok well this cpu is clocked at 4.0 ghz out of the box the one i wnt to get so can it handle it?

wouldnt this cpu cooler be better?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018 wait i forgot u told me u didnt know much about it shouldi get this or a hydro series cooler by corsair?

[_I_]

yes its better, but the 212+ will be quieter, and cool it just as good for stock speeds
even a mild overclock, but dont oc on that board without vrm heatsinks

ex. http://cdn.overclock.net/9/90/90254953_vbattach100113.jpeg

[Gianni]

ya i knoe that

[404]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ST08P6218
im running these at 2133. there kinda new to the game but i havent had any problems in the 6 months ive been using them. blue led to if you like that sorta thing.