8GB DDR3 @1600Ghz Upgrade or is 8GB DDR3 @ 800Mhz Enough?

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

After googling I am not coming to a clear answer, how much performance would I be able to expect if I swapped my 8GB ddr3 ram 800Mhz to either 1333Mhz or 1600Mhz Will this increase my FPS any? Or cause lessen any lag issues?


Games I play

Warz
Arma2 and Arma 3
Dayz Mod*standalone soon*
Planet Side 2
GTA 4
Will be buying GTA 5
Killing Floor
Sins of a Solar Empire
Tomb Raider
BioShock Infinite
and most modern games today.
Considering either buying Black Ops 2 or battlefield 3 within the next few months, maybe both

I also enjoy recording game play and I do some live streaming from time to time.

My question is this. What kind of performance upgrade will I see, if any

Will it help boost FPS, or is that mostly my GPU?/CPU?

Will it increase my live streaming performance? I use Bandicam to record, camtasia to edit videos sometimes and xsplit to live stream.

I am artistically challenged, so I dont play with Photoshop very much, so I would not be hogging resources with any hardcore editing or photo making.


Thank you again and sorry for the very long post

My PC Specs
CPU AMD FX-6300 3.5 Ghz 6 Core CPU
GPU XFX 7870 Radeon Double D 2gb
PSU XFX Pro 750Watt
MB BioStar A960G+
8GB DD3 Ram
1TB Sata Hard Drive
Thermaltake Case
OS Windows 7 Home Premium (64bit)
Acer 23" Widescreen Flat Panel LED HD Monitor
High Speed Cable Internet 55mb down 9mb up

[_I_]

if cpuz shows ram speed is 800 in dual channel mode, its running at 1600

upgrading ram from 1333 to 1600 will make litle difference
if buying ram for a new build, its only a few $ more to get a 1600 kit vs a 1333 kit

your board is kidnd of a stretch for a 95w cpu, thats at its limit
if you want to overclock, youll need a better board

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

_I_님이 먼저 게시:

if cpuz shows ram speed is 800 in dual channel mode, its running at 1600

upgrading ram from 1333 to 1600 will make litle difference
if buying ram for a new build, its only a few $ more to get a 1600 kit vs a 1333 kit

your board is kidnd of a stretch for a 95w cpu, thats at its limit
if you want to overclock, youll need a better board

Thanks I dont think this is dual, unless I am not reading this correctly?

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg105/GhostWarr/Capture_zps103d7298.png


sorry cant get it to show on forums

[_I_]

channel # says dual + freq 800 = 1600

yep, but cl 11 is kinda high
1600 cl11 (1600/11=145) is slower than 1333 cl9 (1333/9=148)

check what the xmp profile is and set bios to that
cpuz speed tab, select a dimm profiles are listed

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

_I_님이 먼저 게시:

yep, but cl 11 is kinda high
1600 cl11 (1600/11=145) is slower than 1333 cl9 (1333/9=148)

check what the xmp profile is and set bios to that
cpuz speed tab, select a dimm profiles are listed

the cl 11 kinda high? is that good or bad? Forgive im new to the cpu-z I screen shot all tabs maybe you could look at them? Thanks


Also I have never overclocked before. While my pc can be overclocked, I never have bvecause I dont wanna screw my only gaming pc up. When I build a 2nd rig, Ill experiment with OC

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg105/GhostWarr/5_zpsb9eb395e.png
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg105/GhostWarr/6_zpsc42e782f.png
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg105/GhostWarr/4_zps810a7443.png
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg105/GhostWarr/3_zps9b7f5a22.png
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg105/GhostWarr/2_zps331999a6.png
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg105/GhostWarr/1-1_zps7a3a5fd9.png

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Also I have 2 4GB DDR3@ 800Mhz memory chips, so does that mean I am at 1600Mhz? Thanks

[LoTekRabbit]

DDR = Dual Data Rate

So 800 x 2 = 1600

Yes you are running at 1600MHz

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

TenClub님이 먼저 게시:

DDR = Dual Data Rate

So 800 x 2 = 1600

Yes you are running at 1600MHz

Ok Thanks. Its my first gaming pc I built, I used some parts from a stock pc*the hard drive and ram* everything else listed was new. Cheers

[LoTekRabbit]

Congratulations =)

Enjoy your rig!

[_I_]

ok, it is a 1600 cl11 kit

replaceing it would not be worth it
running it at 1333 cl9 (jedec#4 profile) would be slightly (<1%) faster, but would make no diff in any game or while streaming
imho, keep it where it is


with that board i would not even attempt to overclock, it has a weak power phase (3+1 limit of 95w) and your cpu is 95w
biostar boards have no vrm protection, and it will start on fire when stressed too much

amd board power phase list
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

this mainly deals with 125w cpu precautions, but applies when overclocking 80-95w cpus
About VRMs & MOSFETs / Motherboard Safety with high-TDP processors
http://www.overclock.net/a/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-high-tdp-processors

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

_I_님이 먼저 게시:

ok, it is a 1600 cl11 kit

replaceing it would not be worth it
running it at 1333 cl9 (jedec#4 profile) would be slightly (<1%) faster, but would make no diff in any game or while streaming
imho, keep it where it is


with that board i would not even attempt to overclock, it has a weak power phase (3+1 limit of 95w) and your cpu is 95w
biostar boards have no vrm protection, and it will start on fire when stressed too much

amd board power phase list
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

this mainly deals with 125w cpu precautions, but applies when overclocking 80-95w cpus
About VRMs & MOSFETs / Motherboard Safety with high-TDP processors
http://www.overclock.net/a/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-high-tdp-processors

Thanks and yeah I was low on cash and settled for a cheap Mobo, figured when and if I ever decide to get into OCing, I would first build a newer rig, then buy a newer mobo so this pc could be a test rig, but atm I only have my standard stock pc and this gaming rig and I refuse to risk this baby on some nub OCing mistake I am sure to make lol. Cheers and thanks for the feedback

[banzaigtv]

So that means if I have triple-channel RAM @ 1066 MHz, then my RAM runs at 3198 MHz, which is just as good as dual-channel 1600 MHz? So to speak, I don't need to upgrade to 1600 MHz to improve gaming performance, right?

[Rove]

Wait up on the RAM upgrade until you figure something out.

DDR3-1600 is 800Mhz. DDR-1333 is 667Mhz

Some vendors and software programs mis-state DDR3-1600 as DDR3-1600Mhz but it's not so.

DDR stands for "Double Data Rate" and thus 800Mhz=DDR3-1600 because 2*800=1600 so it's 1600 speed if it was old single data rate RAM or SDR RAM.

At least so I was told and found many places on the internet.

So you should be extra sure that your DDR3 is actually DDR3-800 400Mhz and not DDR3-1600 800Mhz.

Check your BIOS and also check with your system vendor or the retailer that you originally bought the RAM from. Cause I did notice that your program states "800Mhz" and if they are saying that correctly (and not mistaken) then it is actually already DDR3-1600.

If you are very sure that is is DDR3-800 (400Mhz) then it is something you could reasonably upgrade to double the speed.

The 2 questions then are:
1. Do you need a RAM upgrade?
a. Check your WEI by right clicking "My Computer" and left clicking "Properties". If you don't have "My Computer" on desktop then right click anywhere on desktop and click "Personalize" and then click "Change Desktop Icons" and then select "My Computer" to show.
b. if your RAM WEI is significantly lower than the others then you may need a upgrade.
c. if you know you need a RAM upgrade then I guess you do.

2. Is it worth it to upgrade now or to wait for DDR4 and upgrade then even though you may need a new Motherboard (and will yur CPU still fit the new board?)

3. Is it worth it to upgrade at all or should you just wait and save to build a whole new system?

[Velmarshal]

The frequency shows up as 800Mhz because it's running in dual channel, not because of it's DDR.

Double data rate means that ram memory operates on both sides of the internal clock.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_data_rate

Quoting:
"DDR should not be confused with dual channel, in which each memory channel accesses two RAM modules simultaneously. The two technologies are independent of each other and many motherboards use both, by using DDR memory in a dual channel configuration."

[Rove]

Okay well my DDR3-1600 shows up as "800Mhz" even when running dual channel or more cause I check what it's clock rate is, not what it's overall speed is. I also get 7.8 WEI with it.

[Velmarshal]

1600Mhz should show up as 800Mhz while dual channel is on.
If you had only one ram stick, it would show up as 1600Mhz.

For me it shows 1200Mhz.