Tox Laximus (차단됨) 2012년 12월 29일 오후 6시 29분
amd 7970 or gtx 680 ?
I think the 680 performs better, they are similar price.

EDIT: the 680 uses less power and my antec 550watt psu meets the requirement.

Is the 680 supported well will games old and new?
Is it noisy?
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Tox Laximus (차단됨) 2012년 12월 31일 오전 4시 41분 
Whatever card I get the little guy will have a good home, nice roomy high airflow case, gigabye mobo to talk to, plus he has his own little window, will always be fed the latest drivers and never be overclocked.

Now all I have to do is save until the 11th of march without going crazy :D
¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™ 2012년 12월 31일 오전 6시 12분 
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and never be overclocked.

Go for the EVGA Superclocked one then for a little more than standard.

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Now all I have to do is save until the 11th of march without going crazy :D
When are the 7xx series out? might put he 680 down in price.
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Tox Laximus (차단됨) 2012년 12월 31일 오전 8시 41분 
Does the EVGA 680 require the drivers from the EVGA site or the NVIDIA site.

My asus 6870 had custom drivers at asus but they never updated them much, I always use the ones from amd.
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Joscco 2012년 12월 31일 오전 8시 57분 
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Does the EVGA 680 require the drivers from the EVGA site or the NVIDIA site.

My asus 6870 had custom drivers at asus but they never updated them much, I always use the ones from amd.

I'd personally go with the GTX 680. The Radeon 7970 is an excellent card and performs exceptionally well, but I've always preferred the drivers and the consistency from NVIDIA. The drivers and the beta release drivers are all downloaded from the NVIDIA website. I currently have two PNY 670's and they perform crazy good. You shouldn't have any issues having one card, but if you have two like I do then sometimes there isn't an SLI profile for certain games at launch, or if there is one sometimes there are still issues in terms of performance so you'd have to wait for updates in new drivers to fix that.

All in all, you'd be good for a very long time with a 680.
¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™ 2012년 12월 31일 오전 8시 57분 
Yeah use Nvidia drivers always.
Tox Laximus (차단됨) 2012년 12월 31일 오후 2시 18분 
The 680 for me just has the better features, pysX and adaptive vsync, I'm 100% sure it will provide a better gaming experience.

The knowledge from people who own these cards is invaluable, so happy new year!!!
76561198079092422 2012년 12월 31일 오후 4시 19분 
AMD稳定性不好
Maximum Game 2012년 12월 31일 오후 5시 00분 
The AMD: Radeon HD 7970 & Nvidia: GTX 680 are both excellent choices right now and you couldn't go wrong with either one.
Just make sure you use the latest drivers for the best experience.

You can get the latest AMD drivers here:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/pages/downloads.aspx
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
Radeon Pro: http://www.radeonpro.info

You can get the latest Nvidia drivers here:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
http://www.geforce.com/drivers
nHancer: http://www.nhancer.com/
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Maximum Game 2012년 12월 31일 오후 6시 04분 
The AMD: Radeon HD 7970 & HD 7950 currently include Far Cry 3, Hitman: Absolution, and Sleeping Dogs for free, when purchased at a participating retailer.
http://blogs.amd.com/play/this-holiday-never-settle

That's something to consider if you have any interest in those games.
¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™ 2012년 12월 31일 오후 6시 08분 
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The AMD: Radeon HD 7970 & HD 7950 currently include Far Cry 3, Hitman: Absolution, and Sleeping Dogs for free, when purchased at a participating retailer.
http://blogs.amd.com/play/this-holiday-never-settle

That's something to consider if you have any interest in those games.

Yeah my friend got a 7950 for £220 with them games they were £90 total for them on Steam at the time making the card cost £130 in a way not bad really, you can activate Hitman: Absolution and Sleeping Dogs on Steam but you need to install Ubisoft's UPlay for FC3.
bloodraven43 2012년 12월 31일 오후 6시 27분 
ati sucks monkey balls...nvidia rules...ati owners have no physics built into there cards...so to have physics they need to buy 2 cards...this is why ati cards are cheaper...a dedicated card for physics,fk that...nvidia gives it all to you and works better with gen 3 mobos and processors...ati sucks vs nvidia great graphics,great color,fast,built in ageia chip in the gpu...who needs more...like most games say....NVIDIA THE WAY GAMES ARE MEANT TO BE PLAYED.....lol...been seeing that since day 1 of real pc gaming...1995...ati prompts are seen up rarely in a game you play...this is why ati players have compatibility issues constantly

btw...if you read there is always alot of problems with games that use a sli or crossfire config...this is why i have 1 x 680 ftw 4gb card...3770k cpu...asus maximus formula 5...16gb xmp ram ...gen3 config.... this rig i have rocks
David 2012년 12월 31일 오후 7시 05분 
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57413-amd-12-11-never-settle-driver-performance-5.html

7970 performs better with the newer drivers.. 600 series are mid range, low power cards.. I'd wait for the 700 series. Nvidia didn't put their top-tier hardware (gk110) in the 600 series, the 660ti, 670 and 680 all have the gk104 core which was originally aimed around mid range, lower tdp cards.

The 7970 tdp is 250w, 660ti is 150w, 670 is 170w and the 680 is 195w. (for reference models) 7970 however doesn't consume near it's rated tdp in games due to driver inefficiency.. (although that has improved) Nvidia cards consume their rated tdp in games so long as the game is optimised well.

If you absolutely must have a new card before the 8000 series amd and 700 series nvidia gpus launch (probably around june/july), then i'd get the 7970 given the choice of any 600 or 7000 series card.

My preference is nvidia however, gtx 580 owner here.. not going to fork out till the real kepler is here! :D
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Maximum Game 2012년 12월 31일 오후 8시 05분 
Nvidia misled everyone, including me, about their GTX 600 series.
Nvidia misguided everyone into believing that the GTX 600 series is DirectX 11.1
In reality, it is only DirectX 11, with partial DirectX 11.1 support.
I pre-ordered Windows 8 Pro.
I wanted a fully DirectX 11.1 video card to go with my DirectX 11.1 operating system.
This did not happen because Nvidia wasn't honest & open about their GTX 600 series.
If they ever pull another stunt like this, I will never buy another Nvidia product ever again.
I wish I had gotten the AMD: Radeon HD 7970 instead.
AMD Radeon HD 7000-series are fully DirectX 11.1 and are able to take full advantage of Windows 8 and all its new features:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130715064316/http://community.amd.com/community/amd-blogs/game/blog/2012/12/14/yes-amd-has-full-directx-111-support

Windows 8 uses DirectX 11.1 for hardware acceleration to improve performance:
http://media.ch9.ms/ch9/fbfa/2dbd096d-24f0-46ce-8777-acf65beffbfa/HardwareAcceleratingEverythingGraphics_high.mp4

Nvidia claims that the GTX 680 has "support for DX11.1"
The GTX 600 series only partially support DirectX 11.1, it doesn't fully support it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130807084216/http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Launches-First-GeForce-GPUs-Based-on-Next-Generation-Kepler-Architecture-79b.aspx

To be fair, AMD claimed "full" DirectX 12 support for GPUs that don't support all of Direct3D 12's feature levels.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-demonstrates-2014mar20.aspx

Nvidia claims their GPUs "will support the DX12 API on all the DX11-class GPUs it has shipped; these belong to the Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell architectural families." However, they don't go into detail on which of their GPUs fully support DirectX 12.
http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/03/20/directx-12/

It's not clear yet on whether or not DirectX 12 games will make use of all of Direct3D 12 feature levels. Microsoft said this in their FAQ on DirectX 12.
"Q: Should I wait to buy a new PC or GPU?
A: No – if you buy a PC with supported graphics hardware (over 80% of gamer PCs currently being sold), you’ll be able to enjoy all the power of DirectX 12 games as soon as they are available."
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/directx/archive/2014/03/20/directx-12.aspx

However, DirectX 11 games do require GPUs that are specifically designed for DirectX 11 to enable the DirectX 11 features.

The lesson I learned is to check which "Direct3D 12 feature levels" are supported on a GPU (video card) before I buy it.

In Direct3D 11.x, there are seven feature levels provided by D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL structure. Feature levels 11_0 and 11_1 refer to respective versions of the Direct3D API.
Direct3D 11.1 for Windows 8 introduced feature level 11_1

Windows 10 will include support for DirectX 12.
The two new feature levels of Direct3D 12 are 12_0 and 12_1
So, the question to ask if Nvidia or AMD claim that a certain GPU "fully supports DirectX 12" is: what Direct3D 12 feature levels are supported on that particular GPU?
The Direct3D 12 feature levels are: 11_0, 11_1, 12_0, and 12_1
So, in order for a GPU to "fully support DirectX 12", it must fully support Direct3D 12 feature levels 11_0, 11_1, 12_0, and 12_1
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Maximum Game 2012년 12월 31일 오후 10시 32분 
I guess he's never heard of Havok Physics either.
http://www.havok.com/products/physics
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