Low fps (stuttering really), low gpu usage, low cpu usage.
Hey guys,
Having a bit of a problem here. So all of a sudden all of my games run terribly. Every single one of them. I've already formatted and reinstalled Windows, updated everything, and acquired the latest drivers.
Here's the crazy thing: despite the fact that the game I'm running is stuttering unplayably, my gpu and cpu usage are around 30-40%. I've tried disabling Intel Speedstep and I've checked my temps - everything is fine. I've even tried running games on a ram disk in case of any hard drive problems. Same old stuttering.
Now if I run a benchmarking program like FurMark, gpu usage jumps to 99% and it runs smooth as butter.
I have a GTX 460, 8GBs of memory, an i5-750, and again, I'm running a fresh copy of Windows 7 Ultimate x64 with all software/drivers up to date.

Anybody have a clue what is going on here? It's driving me crazy!
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από [TFB] Joe; 15 Οκτ 2013, 9:23
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Well, I updated the bios and installed the official chipset drivers for the motherboard, rebooted and performance was perfect in Warframe. I thought for sure it was fixed, so I boosted the graphics settings a bit, and now it's back to the same stuttering. Turned the graphics back down to low and the stuttering remains. This makes no sense to me.
I hate to bump but I'm really out of ideas. I tried a few games under Linux as well and have the same stuttering issues, so it is definitely 100% a hardware problem, but which piece of hardware is it; that's the question. I'd say it's the graphics card, but then why does FurMark run perfectly? It seems like there is a bottleneck elsewhere but I have no idea what it could be. I'm open to any suggestion as far as how to check which piece of hardware is causing the problem. Anyone have any ideas?
Have you considered that you might be hacked? Not with a comnmon virus but with a actual custom hack?

Can you try installing Linux Mint and seeing if you can play games on Steam for Linux without this issue? You could also try installing Wine (Windows Emulator) and using Steam for Windows on Linux using Wine. Remember that you will probably have to install graphics drivers from AMD or Nvidia website manually since Linux will not include them defualt.

Here is Linux Mint:
http://www.linuxmint.com/

Steam for Linux games:
http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/

Also you can try and rule out if it is your HDD by booting Linux off of a CD or USB, installing graphics drivers, Steam for Linux and 1 game with the problem. These things will be gone when you reboot cause CD / USB booting means it will install stuff to RAM instead of HDD. Make sure to leave your HDD physically disconnected while you do this.

Other than that I think you'd need a bunch of replacement parts to try and test the rest.
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Have you considered that you might be hacked? Not with a comnmon virus but with a actual custom hack?

Can you try installing Linux Mint and seeing if you can play games on Steam for Linux without this issue? You could also try installing Wine (Windows Emulator) and using Steam for Windows on Linux using Wine. Remember that you will probably have to install graphics drivers from AMD or Nvidia website manually since Linux will not include them defualt.

Here is Linux Mint:
http://www.linuxmint.com/

Steam for Linux games:
http://store.steampowered.com/browse/linux/

Also you can try and rule out if it is your HDD by booting Linux off of a CD or USB, installing graphics drivers, Steam for Linux and 1 game with the problem. These things will be gone when you reboot cause CD / USB booting means it will install stuff to RAM instead of HDD. Make sure to leave your HDD physically disconnected while you do this.

Other than that I think you'd need a bunch of replacement parts to try and test the rest.

Not sure what you mean by a custom hack... but I can certainly try it on Linux Mint on a usb drive. I did already try running a few games off of ram disk in Windows and had the same issue, so I have a feeling it's not the hard drive. Also, like I said in my last post, I did try a few games on my Linux install (Ubuntu) with the same issues. I'll try anything at this point though. Downloading Mint right now.
Custom Hack, AKA not a virus or at least not a virus known to any virus scanner because it haas not spread enough. Generally though I would be excluding virus from that term. It might be something like a non-contagious piece of malicious code which someone has infected you personally with but is not trying to spread like a disease and so is not known to virus scanners.

Like someone may have gained access to your computer and done something malicious but not contagious to then cripple you computer. It is possible. It might not be what happened but it is certainly possible. It's something that concerns me because I don't see any way to defend against it except to be a far better hacker and to have actually written your own OS and then maintain the code. That means there is nothing the average person can do about it and it might as well be a hardware issue. Windows or someone else will only do something when or if it becomes widespread and is not unique.

Anyways trying a new OS might solve it and if it does then it is probably a software problem.

If you can run through all sorts of OS and still have the problem then either the hacker is very very good, has specifically hacked a piece of your hardware like your motherboard BIOS chip instead of just hacking your harddrive or it's a hardware problem.

Just kind of seems to me that if you can't see anything burnt or smell anything burning then the hardware should be fine :B1:. I know it's not always the case though.

There is also BSD which is not Linux based BUT probably can't run many or any games.

Also some unpleasant but perhaps required alternatives might be to replace the system or parts thereof. Here are a few budget builds that you can take in whole or in part and should be a nice improvment to what you've got:

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rove/saved/1Z98
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rove/saved/2766

Here's the rest of my builds if you want to look at them:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rove/saved/

I know personally how much it sucks to have to replace things just because they are either defective or someone has done something downright malicious to them. I recently had to get a new motherboard (& CPU because I thought it was the CPU first) because something is wrong with my ASUS M5A99X and I swear it's just hacked or something. ASUS still hasn't got back to me on tech support but Newegg delivered within the week and I WILL make ASUS replace or fix the board eventually.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από Rove; 19 Οκτ 2013, 12:13
Check your motherboard battery. A failing mobo battery can introduce timing errors into the hardware.

Another less likely problem is a memory mismatch being compensated within your BIOS. Try each stick of RAM on its own. If the problme happens with one but not another you have a faulty ram stick.

Also once you have checked or replaced your mobo battery try forcing the mobo to reset variables. That comes under various names in different BIOS's. That can get rid of timing issues caused by faulty handling of a system bus. I say after checking the battery as a faulty battery will just repeat the timing errors eventually. Some mobos will still keep a copy of the faulty settings beyond a battery replacement, though not normally.
Hmm, okay so, Counter-Strike Source runs perfectly on Linux Mint off a usb drive (installed CSS on a ramdisk though). Running CSS on my Ubuntu install on the hard disk, it runs like ass. I'm now installing it on Windows to see what performance is like here. I can't test the other games I've been working with because they either don't run on Linux or they are too large for the ramdisk/usb drive.
Hopefully it runs bad on my Windows install. Then I'll have to assume it has to do with this hard disk.

EDIT: Well, the stuttering is there but it's not as bad as Warframe and the others. I'm just going to try installing Windows on my secondary hard disk and see how things go from there.
Τελευταία επεξεργασία από [TFB] Joe; 19 Οκτ 2013, 15:15
Well, I now have Windows installed on my other hard drive. Same old stuttering. I guess I'll try checking the ram sticks tomorrow morning and see if one is faulty.
How do I check my motherboard's battery for problems? I don't think it's timing issues to be honest. Running older, less graphics-intensive games, I don't get any stuttering at all. At least that's what seems to be the case, but who knows? Sometimes the stuttering will stop for a little while randomly, just to fool me into thinking I've found some kind of pattern.
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Well, I now have Windows installed on my other hard drive. Same old stuttering. I guess I'll try checking the ram sticks tomorrow morning and see if one is faulty.
How do I check my motherboard's battery for problems? I don't think it's timing issues to be honest. Running older, less graphics-intensive games, I don't get any stuttering at all. At least that's what seems to be the case, but who knows? Sometimes the stuttering will stop for a little while randomly, just to fool me into thinking I've found some kind of pattern.

Your mobo battery is best replaced every few years. If the mobo has been subjected to temperature fluctuations the battery life is shorter. If you can't remember when you replaced it - I suggest replacing it. Also I would do that with a reliable big brand battery such as Duracell.

Tming issues can indeed behave as you describe. Lower spec games don't make the same demands on the pipelines like DMA channels or the PCI Bus. Also a faulty PSU can stutter in power delivery, again that only shows when the power demanded is higher.

I'm hoping its your battery as that is usually the easiest to replace. You'll need to RTFM if the batttery is hidden.


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