Proton/Wine question.

[Chaosolous]

I am dumb, let me stress this first and foremost.

With that out of the way; I have installed Linux on a laptop and I'm messing around trying to familiarize myself with how things work on it. I opened this "software manager" and typed in "proton" and a bunch of stuff popped up.

I've got "Protonup-qt" "protonplus" "protontricks" "portproton" and so on and so forth.

When I search the software manager for Wine I get "q4wine" "wine" "winetricks" "Wine" (again).

The second wine says it's good for Linux Mint specifically, but it only has 38 reviews, are all these programs safe to use from the software manager or no? Like, is it filled with "fake" apps to trick people like Google Play is, or is it something else? (I don't understand linux enough to know why I can't just download stuff from the web like windows) Do I need both wines?

Everyone says wine and proton are needed when I switch my primary gaming PC over, but... how?

[Thermal Lance]

Either protonplus or protonup-qt can be useful. One or the other. It's a tool to download additional proton version IF NEEDED.

Most games will run just fine using Steam's built in proton.

[Chaosolous]

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Either protonplus or protonup-qt can be useful. One or the other. It's a tool to download additional proton version IF NEEDED.

Most games will run just fine using Steam's built in proton.

So, if you launch a game on Linux, through Steam, it will do this "proton" thing automatically then?

I don't understand. My laptop legit can't run games, I'm just downloading/browsing software so I can sort of understand what's going on.

Is that the same thing for Wine? Do I need both Wine and Proton to play games?

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Either protonplus or protonup-qt can be useful. One or the other. It's a tool to download additional proton version IF NEEDED.

Most games will run just fine using Steam's built in proton.

So, if you launch a game on Linux, through Steam, it will do this "proton" thing automatically then?

I don't understand. My laptop legit can't run games, I'm just downloading/browsing software so I can sort of understand what's going on.

Is that the same thing for Wine? Do I need both Wine and Proton to play games?

You must enable it. Go into steam's settings. Compatibility tab and enable steam play for all other titles.

[Chaosolous]

Ahhh, I see. That's very helpful, thank you.

[Thermal Lance]

If you need to run non-linux programs outside from Steam. I usually use Lutris. It's flexible enough to use to run games and some apps too.

[A&A]

The "software manager" is the GUI for the package manager (apt in this case). Apt downloads software from repositories, in this case from Debian and Mint, and the existence of a fake one is almost impossible given that all packages must be approved and listed manually.

When you install Steam and you enable the compatibility layer, proton should be able to install automatically when required. Added non-steam games also can use proton. You just have to set it from the properties that it is not a linux game.

Wine is useful if you want to run Windows programs that don't require graphical translation layers.
The libraries should be called something like "wine32" and "wine64". You want to have both. The other option is to just add the repository from winehq and install it from there.

[Chaosolous]

Originally posted by A&A:

Wine is useful if you want to run Windows programs...

Alright cool. I get that.

that don't require graphical translation layers.
The libraries should be called something like "wine32" and "wine64". You want to have both. The other option is to just add the repository from winehq and install it from there.

...you lost me. Haha.

I have a detailed list of thoughts and questions I'm compiling while I try out this Linux Mint, I'm sure when I post it here, a lot of my confusion about all this will be better allied.

I appreciate the insight though. I'm so far liking what I'm experiencing, even if it's a bit... confusing.

[Thermal Lance]

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

Originally posted by A&A:

Wine is useful if you want to run Windows programs...

Alright cool. I get that.

that don't require graphical translation layers.
The libraries should be called something like "wine32" and "wine64". You want to have both. The other option is to just add the repository from winehq and install it from there.

...you lost me. Haha.

I have a detailed list of thoughts and questions I'm compiling while I try out this Linux Mint, I'm sure when I post it here, a lot of my confusion about all this will be better allied.

I appreciate the insight though. I'm so far liking what I'm experiencing, even if it's a bit... confusing.

Just take it slow and don't try to do too much at the same time. You should be fine.

[SHAZBOT]

or just download and run lutris. playonlinux. heroic laucnher, bottles... ect... and they will download all that stuff for you automatically.

[Electric Cupcake]

Welcome to the world of free (as in freedom, not free beer) software. Every fork and library hopes to become the standard upon which the next generation is built.
https://xkcd.com/927/

[Crashed]

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

Either protonplus or protonup-qt can be useful. One or the other. It's a tool to download additional proton version IF NEEDED.

Most games will run just fine using Steam's built in proton.

So, if you launch a game on Linux, through Steam, it will do this "proton" thing automatically then?

I don't understand. My laptop legit can't run games, I'm just downloading/browsing software so I can sort of understand what's going on.

Is that the same thing for Wine? Do I need both Wine and Proton to play games?

The Steam Client has Proton already on Linux. Proton comes with Wine built in, preconfigutrd with libraries like DXVK and optimized for gaming.