How long would a i7-7700 with 2400mhz ram and Windows 10 last ??

Nabster 18 lutego o 2:25

Another 5 years of you don't play games

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Corona Scurrae 18 lutego o 3:27

Considering the games you play, it's sufficient. Remember that upgrading only makes sense when your current hardware is incapable of satisfying your needs.

#17

🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊 18 lutego o 6:33

Początkowo opublikowane przez DragonPlus7:
on steam. it is still good in 2025 ???
How long would a i7-7700 with 2400mhz ram and Windows 10 last ??

It won't last at all. It's already outdated and too slow for use for modern games. Don't spend money on it. It would be a complete waste of money. Unless you can get the CPU + motherboard + ram for $50 or $25 or something like that. That might be worth it.

Ostatnio edytowany przez: 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊; 18 lutego o 6:33

#18

De Hollandse Ezel 18 lutego o 7:22

i am still on windows 7 on steam more than a year after steam dropped support.

**windows 7 was launched in 2009
**windows 7 was pulled from store in 2014
**windows 7 was supported by microsoft to 2020
**steam pulled win 7 support in 2014.

**windows 10 was launched in 2015
**it was pulled from store in 2023
**its support will end in 2025
-you can thus expect steam to remain supporting win 10 until 1-1-2030 or about 4-5 more years.
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and to be able to boot steam likely to 2032..

your cpu officially does not support windows 11 so once win 10 support.. it ends for you unless you want to go linux.

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as for gpu.. if you only want to play the games you already got than you can forever on that cpu.
but if not..
a 7700k bottlenecks quite anything more than an gtx 1070/1660
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and those cards are already outdated now.. so there in lies the real issue
so it mosty depends ofcouse what fps, resolution and settings .you still find acceptable.. and what games you play.

but a 1070 or 1660 will barely give you 60 fps in 1080p low to medium settings today. let alone anything released years from now.

Ostatnio edytowany przez: De Hollandse Ezel; 18 lutego o 7:34

#19

blunus 18 lutego o 8:05

8 years old CPU with a slow RAM. Methink that Windows 11 would offer no benefit if you can't play a current game generation from now...

Sure it's good until the games stop setting Windows 10 as a minimum requirement, and when Steam stop working for it.

#20

smokerob79 18 lutego o 8:51

Początkowo opublikowane przez Granite:
Not as bad as some people seem to think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUtowOonjeg

Początkowo opublikowane przez r.linder:
Apex Legends is CPU bound, newer CPUs like Ryzen 5000 series can get better framerates with the same GPU at the same resolution, lowering resolution won't do much because the 7700 is the bottleneck.
No one needs more than 150 FPS really anyway, more frames from that won't fix your skill issues.

this video is a joke as its only showing the GPU as the bottleneck......who is going to use a 9800x3d with a 7700xt???.....its like given a V8 a transaxle....

#21

r.linder 18 lutego o 9:00

Fair point, the true benefits of the 9800X3D are only really shown when you pair it with a 4090 or 5090 at 1080p, but nobody's doing that. It's also fine to go overkill on your CPU because you won't have to upgrade it later and it'll remain viable far longer than your GPU, which can easily be "phased out" in performance within 5 years.

People are buying the 9800X3D because:

1) They want to, and it's their money
2) It's effectively the "best gaming CPU" out of the box (that last part is key, other CPUs could outperform it with tweaking and overclocking but most people don't want to do that)

It's no different than when people were buying the Intel flagship of any given generation, it was always overkill in people's eyes. Especially true with Coffee Lake onwards as the 9900K, 10900K, 11900K, 12900K, 13900K, 14900K, etc. were basically all pure overkill, there were always lower end SKUs that could keep up just fine, the flagships were always about min-maxing on performance.

The 9800X3D technically isn't a flagship in the whole stack but it is still a flagship for Ryzen 7 and that series is the most that a top performing gaming rig needs, the 7700/X, 9700/X, etc. aren't that much slower but X3D is targeted towards gamers that are looking for maximum performance. I thought this was already very well established.

Ostatnio edytowany przez: r.linder; 18 lutego o 9:05

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SHREDDER 18 lutego o 9:12

Początkowo opublikowane przez De Hollandse Ezel:
i am still on windows 7 on steam more than a year after steam dropped support.

**windows 7 was launched in 2009
**windows 7 was pulled from store in 2014
**windows 7 was supported by microsoft to 2020
**steam pulled win 7 support in 2014.

**windows 10 was launched in 2015
**it was pulled from store in 2023
**its support will end in 2025
-you can thus expect steam to remain supporting win 10 until 1-1-2030 or about 4-5 more years.
-
and to be able to boot steam likely to 2032..

your cpu officially does not support windows 11 so once win 10 support.. it ends for you unless you want to go linux.

======
as for gpu.. if you only want to play the games you already got than you can forever on that cpu.
but if not..
a 7700k bottlenecks quite anything more than an gtx 1070/1660
-
and those cards are already outdated now.. so there in lies the real issue
so it mosty depends ofcouse what fps, resolution and settings .you still find acceptable.. and what games you play.

but a 1070 or 1660 will barely give you 60 fps in 1080p low to medium settings today. let alone anything released years from now.

how you still windows 7? how can you ran any programs since 7 stopped support in 2020? How you use steam now?It can not be true. None of the programs that we use daily like firefox for internet and steam for games work now on windows 7! Bottbeneck dosent matter if he can play rhe new games at max settings 1440p 60 fps. Mine ryzen 1700 that ihave since 2017 bottlenecks the RX 6700XT RED DEVIL that i got in 2021 but it dosent matter because i still play all games maxed 1440p 60 fps.

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SHREDDER 18 lutego o 9:16

Początkowo opublikowane przez blunus:
8 years old CPU with a slow RAM. Methink that Windows 11 would offer no benefit if you can't play a current game generation from now...

Sure it's good until the games stop setting Windows 10 as a minimum requirement, and when Steam stop working for it.

as we said already we can install winddows 11 even if our cpu dosent supporti t with Rufus
https://www.xda-developers.com/install-windows-11-unsupported-pc/
and this is what i will do if the cpu ram or motherboard dosent die before the windows 10 support endfs. I downloaded 11 and rufus in April and did the whole procedure that we read in this link and copy it to the usb but i havent decided to install it yet. With al the problems that i read thar windows 11 still has i decided to wait a little bit more before installing 11.

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De Hollandse Ezel 18 lutego o 9:30

Początkowo opublikowane przez SHREDDER:
Początkowo opublikowane przez De Hollandse Ezel:
i am still on windows 7 on steam more than a year after steam dropped support.

**windows 7 was launched in 2009
**windows 7 was pulled from store in 2014
**windows 7 was supported by microsoft to 2020
**steam pulled win 7 support in 2014.

**windows 10 was launched in 2015
**it was pulled from store in 2023
**its support will end in 2025
-you can thus expect steam to remain supporting win 10 until 1-1-2030 or about 4-5 more years.
-
and to be able to boot steam likely to 2032..

your cpu officially does not support windows 11 so once win 10 support.. it ends for you unless you want to go linux.

======
as for gpu.. if you only want to play the games you already got than you can forever on that cpu.
but if not..
a 7700k bottlenecks quite anything more than an gtx 1070/1660
-
and those cards are already outdated now.. so there in lies the real issue
so it mosty depends ofcouse what fps, resolution and settings .you still find acceptable.. and what games you play.

but a 1070 or 1660 will barely give you 60 fps in 1080p low to medium settings today. let alone anything released years from now.
how you still windows 7? how can you ran any programs since 7 stopped support in 2020? How you use steam now?It can not be true. None of the programs that we use daily like firefox for internet and steam for games work now on windows 7! Bottbeneck dosent matter if he can play rhe new games at max settings 1440p 60 fps. Mine ryzen 1700 that ihave since 2017 bottlenecks the RX 6700XT RED DEVIL that i got in 2021 but it dosent matter because i still play all games maxed 1440p 60 fps.

1 extended support (ended 2023... still get most urgent security upates till october 2025)
2 firefox.. still supports win 7 ( sucurity updates for win 7 in firefox will end march 2025 )
3 multiple layers of security.. virusprogram, virtual machine, vpn, local network, etc)
4 made steamapp to stop updating itself stuck to working on 7 version.

there may come a time soon i will have to pull it offline and switch to linux (as i hate win 10&11)
and retire this system as offline windows 7 system.
but until now i have kept things working.

in regards of botteneck..
simplefied.
think of it as if your gpu could give 100 fps
but you have 5% botteneck.
you only get 95.
buying a gpu that than could give 200 fps is pointless.
you still would only get 95.. and your bottlemeck % increases to reflect it.

your cpu a ryzen 1700 bottlenecks a 6600xt by 6%
(on average.. for this number differens per game :
an 6600xt could run 1440p ultra settings at 50fps.
with your bottleneck you would only get 47fps.
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if you really get stable 60fps well must be the titles you play or you not really play 1440p native but are upscaling to it.

still i would consider a 6600xt barely playable at 1080p myself (where it would get 75fps.. but on your cpu going 1080p would increase bottlenecl to 16% so you would only get 63 fps

so basicly your ar a dead end if you rammed in an rtx 4070 on that ryzen 1700. and kept running 1440p
a 4070 is in performnce double a 6600xt st 1440p and could do close to 100 fps .
your bottleneck woud be 21%
so you would get only 79 fps.
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47 - 79 fps is still an incease.. but it aint 50-100..
and at a point your bottleneck increase would be so large you would stop seeing any performance gain.
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this point is much sooner at a i7 7700k thats a far crappier cpu than your ryzen 1700x

while you only have 6% bottleck with your 6600xt
a 7700k would have a 12% bottneck with it.
and where you have 16% at 1080p.. it has 22%

so where you get 47fps at 1440p and 63fps at 1080p
7700k would only get 44fps at 1140p and 58fps at 1080p

and with that 4070.. the bottleneck woulf increase to a whoppimg 30%.

so where you 79 fps out of a 4070.
that 7700k only gets 70 fps out of it.

Ostatnio edytowany przez: De Hollandse Ezel; 18 lutego o 10:02

#25

r.linder 18 lutego o 9:34

Operating systems don't just stop working when support ends, and most things still work fine on 7, most of the support issues are with DX12 games and things that use a newer framework or API version than what 7 supports

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🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊 18 lutego o 20:51

Początkowo opublikowane przez SHREDDER:
None of the programs that we use daily like firefox for internet and steam for games work now on windows 7!

Firefox still works 100% completely normally on Windows 7 and Mozilla has even committed to updating Firefox for Windows 7 at least through the end of 2025.

#27

Bad 💀 Motha 18 lutego o 21:46

Had to go and bring up Win7 huh.
WTF does that have to do with continuing on with Win10?
As long as you're on Win10 22H2 and keep that up to date you'll be fine.
Apps and Games are not going to stop support or stop working on Win10 for many years to come. This is why the whole "EoL Oct 2025" talk is complete non-sense. That's a YOU problem, and you are simply buying the utter BS that Microsoft is feeding you all, in an attempt to move you to Win11 for absolutely no reason. Other then they want to move on from Win10. That's fine, but Win10 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Half the World runs on Win10.

#28

🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊 18 lutego o 23:10

Początkowo opublikowane przez Bad 💀 Motha:
Had to go and bring up Win7 huh.
WTF does that have to do with continuing on with Win10?
As long as you're on Win10 22H2 and keep that up to date you'll be fine.
Apps and Games are not going to stop support or stop working on Win10 for many years to come. This is why the whole "EoL Oct 2025" talk is complete non-sense. That's a YOU problem, and you are simply buying the utter BS that Microsoft is feeding you all, in an attempt to move you to Win11 for absolutely no reason. Other then they want to move on from Win10. That's fine, but Win10 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Half the World runs on Win10.

Don't blame me. De Hollandse Ezel started discussing Windows 7, SHREDDER responded to them then I was just correcting their statement.

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