Windows 11 24H2 will not support Intel CPUs 8th, 9th, and 10th gen

[Iggy Wolf]

If they were trying to convince people to upgrade, they're doing a really bad job. I don't think ANYTHING indicates that any of the CPUs in this line would have an issue running a newer feature update. I'm still on 10, but my PC is "Windows 11 Ready" and yet, their new decision would imply that it was never going to be a long-term solution for an upgrade because it's still on 10.

Yet, nothing indicates that everyone who still has an older CPU should be left behind. 11 and 12 gen are the only ones left that are safe. They're gonna have a hell of a time convincing ANYBODY that a 13 or 14th gen CPU is "safer" or "better" after that Intel fiasco last year. They're basically outdating even more PC, despite most of them being perfectly good working PCs and adding to e-waste. Though I doubt anyone would even want the 24H2 update given how much of a disaster it's been. Much less 11 itself.

Edit: Turns out it's in relation to new OEMs using these CPUs and does not affect current PCs that already have them and are still compatible with new updates. Even so, doesn't change the fact that 24H2 being a disaster would compel people NOT to upgrade and misleading articles that spread news like this only further cement people's decision to stick with their current OS.

[DonMcK]

Originally posted by Iggy Wolf:

If they were trying to convince people to upgrade, they're doing a really bad job. I don't think ANYTHING indicates that any of the CPUs in this line would have an issue running a newer feature update. I'm still on 10, but my PC is "Windows 11 Ready" and yet, their new decision would imply that it was never going to be a long-term solution for an upgrade because it's still on 10.

Yet, nothing indicates that everyone who still has an older CPU should be left behind. 11 and 12 gen are the only ones left that are safe. They're gonna have a hell of a time convincing ANYBODY that a 13 or 14th gen CPU is "safer" or "better" after that Intel fiasco last year. They're basically outdating even more PC, despite most of them being perfectly good working PCs and adding to e-waste. Though I doubt anyone would even want the 24H2 update given how much of a disaster it's been. Much less 11 itself.

It would seem that this is not quite correct

https://www.xda-developers.com/microsoft-drops-support-some-intel-cpus-run-windows-11-24h2

[HIVEmind]

Originally posted by tbialoof:

Originally posted by HIVEmind:

Check your motherboard manufacturers website. Maybe there's a bios update/patch. Yes its a technical but a very good idea.

are you a chatbot or a real person

Real person. There's nothing on tv and I'm waiting for my brother to get up, so we can game. Civ 7.

[ᶻ𝗓𐰁]

Winners 11 lol

[A&A]

Are these new "requirements" the bare minimum you must have or it is like like with the previous versions of Windows where it didn't matter?

[PopinFRESH]

I think you may be misconstruing the information...

Originally posted by Intel:

OEMs may use the following CPUs for new Windows 11 devices. New Windows 11 devices must use modern device drivers which have passed the Windows Hardware Compatibility Program for Windows 11 or the latest available modern device drivers based on Declarative, Componentized, Hardware Support Apps (DCH) design principles.

I'm pretty sure what you are referring to is the minimum CPUs that OEMs are allowed to use when shipping Windows 11 24H2 on a device. I currently have Windows 11 24H2 on an i9 9900X and it works fine.

[Skkooomer Lord]

Been on 24H2 for over a year.

[PopinFRESH]

Originally posted by Granite:

Been on 24H2 for over a year.

Press X to Doubt.

Considering they didn't start rolling it out until.... H2 of 2024 (in October 2024 EDIT: Technically September 30th if you had been in the insider program and were part of the first small rollout wave).

[r.linder]

It makes sense that 10th gen and older Intel processors wouldn't be shipped in Windows 11 machines anymore by OEMs considering the age and lack of full support for the latest hardware features like PCI-e 4.0+

OEMs have guidelines to adhere to, otherwise they would just sell literally anything to make money, they'd be selling Windows 11 systems with unsupported CPUs if Microsoft would let them.

[WarBucks]

The supported hardware list for OEMs (its a volume license thing) has been going on since at least my IT days with windows xp. And this same confusion has happened a few times

[Bad 💀 Motha]

None of that really matters since there are simple work around to allow install of Win11 on basically any PC

[Crashed]

Where's your source that 8th through 10th Gen will no longer be supported? My dad's 10th Gen is advertised as Windows 11 compatible.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Crashed:

Where's your source that 8th through 10th Gen will no longer be supported? My dad's 10th Gen is advertised as Windows 11 compatible.

Already been corrected that it was just that OEMs were directed by Intel not to supply systems with 8th through 10th gen processors with Windows 11 anymore.

[Crashed]

Originally posted by r.linder:

Originally posted by Crashed:

Where's your source that 8th through 10th Gen will no longer be supported? My dad's 10th Gen is advertised as Windows 11 compatible.

Already been corrected that it was just that OEMs were directed by Intel not to supply systems with 8th through 10th gen processors with Windows 11 anymore.

Those processors are discontinued anyway, so it could just be that they see no reason to validate them anymore. Of course if it means an OEM cannot use up their remaining supply of 10th Gen products that could be an issue.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Crashed:

Originally posted by r.linder:

Already been corrected that it was just that OEMs were directed by Intel not to supply systems with 8th through 10th gen processors with Windows 11 anymore.

Those processors are discontinued anyway, so it could just be that they see no reason to validate them anymore. Of course if it means an OEM cannot use up their remaining supply of 10th Gen products that could be an issue.

It's probably due to the fact that all 3 of those generations don't support PCI-e 4.0 considering so many cards on the low end are 4.0 x8 and won't run at their full potential on 3.0 systems, including Intel's own GPUs

[Crashed]

Originally posted by tbialoof:

my speculation: 11th gen dropped SGX due to security reasons that leave 10th and below open to issues

The vulnerability, specifically "Plundervolt" affects SGX in particular. This is mitigated by the Windows hypervisor blocking the MSR used to override procesor performance settings, except on Alder Lake and newer with Undervolt Protection enabled in the BIOS.