Question about the B580?

[Bͥatͣmͫan]

Hello steam i have a question about the B580.

If i own a i5-12400F 2.50 GHz with a 3060 rtx 12 gb

would that be a good GPU upgrade or would there not be much of a performance difference
specially when i only play on 1080P??

[Bing Chilling]

there's like a 5-10% performance uplift going from a 3060 to a B580
so no it's not really that good of an upgrade. a decent upgrade would be a 4070 or a 7700XT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LslijvBfh3w

[_I_]

depends on the games

the intel dedicated gpus do not support dx9 or earlier natively
the gpus driver needs to use alot of cpu to convert dx9 instructions to dx12 for the gpu to run it

the 12400f can turbo to 4.4ghz if the cpu has enough cooling and the board can give it the power it needs

older dx9 games do not need alot of cores, and the cpu should have enough threads free for the driver to use

it should be ok, but i cant say for sure

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

I would not bother with so small uplift, not to mention with lot more unstable drivers of Intel.
Your current card is still quite decent for 1080p gaming.

[Tonepoet]

The day 1 reviews are misleading. So is a review with a 7800x3D in this case.

Conventional wisdom is to eliminate bottlenecks by testing with the strongest C.P.U., but that testing methodology is misleading with Battlemage, because it has a C.P.U. driver overhead issue which cause it to diminish its returns on weaker C.P.Us. worse than its competitors from A.M.D. or Nvidia. This unfortunately limits the applicability of the part, because few people are going to use a high end processor with a low end graphics card.

Techspot has a re-review testing it with a 5600x[www.techspot.com], which is probably the closest A.M.D. counterpart to the 12400f.

According to the new figures, at the $250 for the base model it is still better value per dollar than its closest competition from A.M.D. or Nvidia if you have something along the lines of a 5600x, but you're seeing no uplift in 1080p over an RTX 3060. At 1440p the issue is alleviated because the C.P.U. is processing fewer frames, so it performs at about the same tier of performance of a 4060 for cheaper.

Still though, even going from 3060 to 4060 is a questionable prospect in the first place, and you already have a 12 gig. card, so I'd recommend skipping the B580 for now.

[shiel]

Intel drivers and support for older titles is still lacking... not to mention getting one at msrp is a fools errand.

[r.linder]

Not nearly enough of an uplift to justify the upgrade, should be going for at least 30%, and the B580 is nowhere near that much faster than a 3060

[Guydodge]

i would overclock that 3060 check my art work or watch vids on a safe overclock
should give you an idea of settings and what to expect

[C1REX]

Intel GPUs have very big CPU overhead. It means their drivers are very CPU heavy and can cause or may worsen CPU bottlenecks. It’s not a problem for high end CPUs but who combines a low end GPU with a high end CPU?

I wouldn’t recommend their GPUs at the moment for most people especially above their MSRP.

[Midnight Aurais]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00GmwHIJuJY

[D. Flame]

Originalmente postado por C1REX:

Intel GPUs have very big CPU overhead. It means their drivers are very CPU heavy and can cause or may worsen CPU bottlenecks. It’s not a problem for high end CPUs but who combines a low end GPU with a high end CPU?

I wouldn’t recommend their GPUs at the moment for most people especially above their MSRP.

12400F and 13400F work well with a 3060 and such at 1080p, and it even works well with a 4060Ti and such at 1440p.

Using a 13400F and a 4060Ti at 1080p does lead to some CPU bottlenecking, however.

[Tonepoet]

Originalmente postado por =shiel:

Intel drivers and support for older titles is still lacking... not to mention getting one at msrp is a fools errand.

Upda' yer drivahs.

Older games work well enough ever since Intel implemented driver level dxvk, at least on alchemist. Techspot did a re-review of the A770 six months after release[www.techspot.com] and a 250 game mega test affirming that conclusively.

Vex also reaffirms this sentiment in the driver updates segment of his month long test run.

Counter Strike Global Offensive goes from 145 frames with 70 1% lows to 319 frames and 196 1% lows on the A770, just from updating the drivers from version 3802 to version 4123. Portal runs about the same average with updated drivers (which makes sense because I've read that game is capped to Monitor refresh), but sees a 2950% improvement in the 1% lows.

Plus, there comes a point where even if a card is struggling with older games that you don't really particularly care too much. 145 average F.P.S. with 70 1% lows is far from unplayable y'know.

Of course, that's the A770, not the B580.

[The 3 Whites]

Originalmente postado por Bͥatͣmͫan:

Hello steam i have a question about the B580.

If i own a i5-12400F 2.50 GHz with a 3060 rtx 12 gb

would that be a good GPU upgrade or would there not be much of a performance difference
specially when i only play on 1080P??

not worth
https://youtu.be/LslijvBfh3w?feature=shared

7800xt would be an upgrade
https://youtu.be/phB-cX6ggns?feature=shared

[A&A]

3060 to B580 is not a great update.

[_I_]

yea not really worth it to upgrade to an intel gpu

intel gpus would be good entry level
amd has good mid tier gpus
and nvidia is at the top

atleast intel is are giving amd some competition to help lower their prices

[Bad 💀 Motha]

I'd stay with the 3060 12GB
If you want an actual upgrade then wait and get a discounted 4070 or a newer 5070