Should my Ryzen 7 7700 be this warm?

[Elthrael]

Two things first off: I know AM5 chips are designed to run hot without problems, up to 95°C, I know how the boosting behaviour works etc.. I've also read a few random reddit posts that say this is normal, but to me, it still seems a bit much.

I recently bought a Ryzen 7 7700 (non-X), and put it in my old case with my old cooler. Idle, it sits around 45°C, sometimes when I'm doing some light browsing it goes up to 50-55°C when watching a 1440p video on YouTube. Curiously, under gaming load, it's around 70-75°C, and even after about an hour of Cinebench 2024 loops, HWinfo64 reported it never went over 82°C, and the average per-core was comfortably under 80°C.

The motherboard is an ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2. The cooler is an Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora 280 AIO which handled my 24/7 fixed OC 8700K for years just fine and that chip sucked down 120W easily. The case is a Fractal Design Define R6, not the best airflow case but it works well with AIOs. I used quality thermal paste (Thermal Grizzly, I think it was Hydronaut), I made sure the cooler is seated properly, I made sure the BIOS has proper information to change the temps accordingly. My case fans are at 100% all the time (no reason not to since they make literally NO sound) and my AIO's fans are tied directly to the CPU temps. My ambient temp is around 22-24°C and it's pretty stable, thick walls and all that.

Do these seem normal for Ryzen 7000 or should I be worried?

[SHAZBOT]

when people ask me what cpu should i use? amd intel? what cooler should i use? water or air? do i get noctua or thermaltake?

my answer is always the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZerDjtDlQhc

it doesnt matter. put your thermal paste on right. and if you cant. use one of those.

[Elthrael]

A small update. I went by my local brick and mortar PC store/SI and I bought an AM5 contact frame (I know it doesn't do anything for temps on Ryzen, more for "cleanliness" and aesthetics as per the video above) and a fresh tube of Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut, just to be on the safe side, in case the thermal paste I had was dodgy.

I took the cooler off, I installed the contact frame and made sure to apply the paste again, making sure to get a nice, even manual spread (including the little corners, just in case that mattered). I re-mounted the cooler too, tightening the screws a bit more evenly than last time and... it made almost zero difference. Dead idle (so just monitor on and desktop, no mouse movement, minimal background tasks) it's still at 45°C, under light load it hovers around 50°C, and under full all-core load with the PBO 65°C -40mV setttings it stays around 65°C - 67°C max. While gaming, it's usually around 50-60°C. It's kind of funny that watching a 1440p60 YouTube video has the same temps as playing Monster Hunter: World.

For extra piece of mind, I did ask the guys at the store, because they're a knowledgeable bunch. They asked me about full load temps and what kind of cooler I have and so on, so I told them the whole spiel and their system integration tech waved his hand and said "eh, Ryzen's a bit warm on idle. You're fine." So I guess that it really is just that.

[Alice Liddell]

R7 1800x ran at full load 70C°/75C°.
R9 5950x runs at full load 80C°/85C°.
But it seems to stick in between with either a 4C°-8C° increase from Zen 1 to Zen 3.
It is strange, however, it's not constant and only briefly spikes at times, then I look after awhile and it sits at or below 65°, then spikes for a sec, like it does at boot.
I would think AM5 CPU's are even hotter.
Good to know AM5 doesn't run any warmer than this Zen 9 5900 series on AM4.

[Corona Scurrae]

The ihs for am5 is much thicker than am4 and as such you run into such high temps frequently no matter if it's a 6c or 12c. I run a 13700k oc with a cheap arctic freezer 36 and it never goes above 60 degrees Celsius. My 7800x3d on the other hand used to frequently hit 80 degrees despite using a beefy noctua cooler

You can try to set a power limit in bios. Maybe set it 65w and see if that makes a difference

[Elthrael]

Messaggio originale di Alice Liddell:

R7 1800x ran at full load 70C.
R9 5950x runs at full load 80C.
I would think AM5 CPU's are even hotter.

Not really, the full load temps are pretty darn low, like I said, 65°C under full load with minor to no impact on performance (actually a performance boost over stock/"Auto" motherboard settings). Barely hits 60°C in gaming. My OC'd 8700K ran around 65-70°C in gaming and close to 85°C under full load (and it was delidded, too).

You set it a temp limit and it tries to boost clocks as high as possible while maintaining those temps by providing a lower voltage. It basically auto-undervolts, in a way.

Messaggio originale di Izz all Comp Utah:

You can try to set a power limit in bios. Maybe set it 65w and see if that makes a difference

I doubt that would help with idle temps since it draws around 30W idle and 90W under full load.

[peelywally]

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[¤☣wing☢zeяo☣¤™]

It's fine, people tend to post different results for many reasons, air flow, cooler type and motherboard choice is a big one as different brands push different power values all leading to a big mix of results.

Only thing that matters is if it's throttling, if it's not then it's fine and running in spec.