Thoughts on the new reports of the 50 series melting?

[Bokushigēmā]

2 reports of 5090s have come out showing that the 5090 in question melted. Another report of 1 5080 melted on an ASUS card. Some tech influencers on youtbe all seem to suggest this is the fault of NVIDIA. I can see their reasoning.

However, one thing I have noticed is that in every case this has been reported, the melted cases in question all used an older standard (i.e. an older 12VHPWR cable, with some of these cables coming from 3rd party [ with even one 3rd party saying the cable was not intended for 50 series]).

My conclusion and theory, then, is that 12vhpwr is simply not adequate for the 50 series (or 40 series on that matter), and all of them ought to use the new 3.1 atx pcie 5.1 spec, as well as only use a native 12v 2x6 from PSU to GPU.

People can complain that it is not fair the "user error" is used in this case, but I believe that if you use outdated standards and specs for cards like these, it simply is not best practice and you cannot fully blame NVIDIA for that oversight.

What are your thoughts on this?

I currently have a 5080 Vanguard 5080 SOC Launch card. I use 3.1/5.1 specs with a native 12v 2x6 and have not noticed anything abnormal.

I know 5080s and 5090s are limited right now (so please do not use this post to start complaining about that issue which is an entirely different matter), but for those of you who have them, are you noticing any issues while gaming or under heavy load?

[Waterflow]

Maybe I should stick with my 3080 for a while afterall...

[Schrute_Farms_B&B]

People who dont want to upgrade or folks who just want to find something to nag about, are gonna find all sort of reasons on why the new gen lacks this and that.
Same old story.

Brain.exe is still a crucial thing. You cant ignore official recommendations and then wonder on why your cables start to melt.
Fact is, the RTX 5000 series works great and sells like hot cakes.
Every person and their mum wants to have one and Ive literally havent heard ONE SINGLE NEGATIVE THING from folks, who actually own a RTX 5000 card. (edit: except complaints about the paper launch and scalpers)

edit:
Cant wait to get my hands on a 5090 for MSRP and use MFG. Its gonna take a few more weeks but I can wait. This is my goodbye party from AMD after 10 years. Ive rly enjoyed the 6900Xt and 7900XTX but its time for PathTracing and DLSS. FSR is not an option and XESS is meh. (but still better than FSR)
Fluid Frames on the other hand was some kind of a game changer. Good stuff.

[Bokushigēmā]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Schrute_Farms_B&B:

People who dont want to upgrade or folks who just want to find something to nag about, are gonna find all sort of reasons on why the new gen lacks this and that.
Same old story.

Brain.exe is still a crucial thing. You cant ignore official recommendations and then wonder on why your cables start to melt.
Fact is, the RTX 5000 series works great and sells like hot cakes.
Every person and their mum wants to have one and Ive literally havent heard ONE SINGLE NEGATIVE THING from folks, who actually own a RTX 5000 card. (edit: except complaints about the paper launch and scalpers)

edit:
Cant wait to get my hands on a 5090 for MSRP and use MFG. Its gonna take a few more weeks but I can wait. This is my goodbye party from AMD after 10 years. Ive rly enjoyed the 6900Xt and 7900XTX but its time for PathTracing and DLSS. FSR is not an option and XESS is meh. (but still better than FSR)
Fluid Frames on the other hand was some kind of a game changer. Good stuff.

Agreed.
I own a 5080 MSI Vanguard SOC Launch and I am loving it. I am coming from a 3080, so everything is amped up to 11 for me.

[decizion]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Schrute_Farms_B&B:

People who dont want to upgrade or folks who just want to find something to nag about, are gonna find all sort of reasons on why the new gen lacks this and that.
Same old story.

Brain.exe is still a crucial thing. You cant ignore official recommendations and then wonder on why your cables start to melt.
Fact is, the RTX 5000 series works great and sells like hot cakes.
Every person and their mum wants to have one and Ive literally havent heard ONE SINGLE NEGATIVE THING from folks, who actually own a RTX 5000 card. (edit: except complaints about the paper launch and scalpers)

edit:
Cant wait to get my hands on a 5090 for MSRP and use MFG. Its gonna take a few more weeks but I can wait. This is my goodbye party from AMD after 10 years. Ive rly enjoyed the 6900Xt and 7900XTX but its time for PathTracing and DLSS. FSR is not an option and XESS is meh. (but still better than FSR)
Fluid Frames on the other hand was some kind of a game changer. Good stuff.

Welcome to team green brother. Enjoy top of the line performances, multi frame generation, amazing ray/path tracing. I have a 5090 32G GAMING TRIO OC from MSI and no complaints so far. All games I've tested run amazingly well with everything maxed, it's a game changer.

[PopinFRESH]

Opprinnelig skrevet av xDDD:

I think the whole situation is very funny and is another example of a big corporation sh*tting on consumers.
"Oh it's actually YOUR FAULT that our cards melt on our new connectors! You didn't connect them properly! Disregard the fact that this doesn't happen with the other connectors when they aren't installed properly."

Plus the fact that there are already multiple examples on this on a brand new card does not bode well for the future. But, considering this has been a problem for a while now, people will still gobble up the Team Green offerings even if they melt.

So you're saying this doesn't happen on 8pin PCIe?

https://i.redd.it/zsy7r0qlj9zb1.jpg
https://i.redd.it/melted-8pin-and-pcie-cables-v0-oyimrjqid6ic1.jpg
https://i.redd.it/58ufpg7zo7pd1.jpeg
https://i.redd.it/gpu-power-cable-melted-v0-58ufpg7zo7pd1.jpeg
https://i.redd.it/8-pin-pcie-cable-melted-into-my-3090-v0-pixx2liythfc1.jpg

Weird... I guess someone is out there generating these images with some AI...

Opprinnelig skrevet av smokerob79:

we can blame NgreediA for this.....there is no load balancing on the port.....old 8 pin connections were load balanced.....NgreediA did this.......

This is also not true and just depends on the board. You are conflating that multiple 8pin and/or 6pin connections being balanced and thinking that means those connectors are balancing current across those pins; which is not true.

You could watch the buildzoid (Actually Hardcore Overclocking) video that walks through it....

[Schrute_Farms_B&B]

@Bokushigēmā
Glad youre enjoying the new series. The jump from 3080 to 5080 is very reasonable and huge.
Have fun.

@decizion
Nice to hear that everything runs to your satisfaction. Cant wait to switch teams and Im pretty stoked. To be in your shoes..... ^^
I hope they gonna restock asap.