is 16gb ram is enough for 2k gaming ?

[Alesta]

AMD Ryzen 5 8400F | 16 GB DDR5 | Powercolor RX 7800 XT 16 GB | 500 GB SSD


i wanna buy this pc but ram is low what you think ?

[_I_]

depends on the game

if the game min is 16g or less 16g is fine
if the game needs more ram, then more ram is needed for good playability

[Alesta]

Originally posted by _I_:

depends on the game

if the game min is 16g or less 16g is fine
if the game needs more ram, then more ram is needed for good playability

it have 16gb vram it doesnt help that ?

[Alesta]

if i get another 16gb stick it would be really expensive for me and i need to downgrade to

7700xt instead

[_I_]

vram is not system ram

vram is on the gpu

unless it has an igpu or onboard, that uses system ram

gpu limit also depends on the games min req for gpu

[Chaosolous]

At this point we should be considering 32GB the standard.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Would need to get more storage as well. 500 GB is a joke these days.

[D. Flame]

My rule of thumb is that your RAM should be at least double your vRAM.

If your GPU has 8GB of vRAM, then you want at least 16GB of RAM.

If your GPU has 16 GB of vRAM, then you want at least 32 GB of RAM.

Low RAM is generally not a deal breaker since it is easily upgraded, most of the time.

[Lithurge]

Given the size of games these days you may want to rethink the 500gb drive unless you're very disciplined and keep the minimal amount of games installed. You may still find there's issues caused by the way patches delivered through Steam work.

[Ralf]

Even if it would 16GB(2x8 or 1x16) really hurts Ryzen cpu performance.

[AmaiAmai]

If you play older games, then it will be no issue. 32GB has been the target since 2022 IMO

Only three problems:

1. Never games are very unoptimised and if they say they need 16GB that's assuming you have the page file on and don't mind the performance loss or other issues that comes with that, including crashing.

All these games requiring you to compile part of their code and assets are essentially going to run bad on hardware that can't do something like compile Android or the Linux kernel -- for both of those tasks you want as much RAM as possible and fast disk storage.

Sound familiar? That's right...games are now demanding the same thing as above...

2. You have other memory hogging programs open or programs that can potentially waste a lot of memory like Google Chrome and other browsers in that family (includes DISCORD, includes AMD's Driver Software (if using the built in web app), includes STEAM, etc. Antivirus programs, or programs that record the screen can also use a lot of memory.

3. Windows is getting bloated with all this AI nonsense. See, the problems above might not be as prevalent or an issue in Linux because memory is managed so much better than Windows.

But that only pertains to newer games that come out unoptimised. Unfortunately, they are the majority of games that will be coming out from here on out.

If you don't want to spend money and will upgrade later (hardware typically gets cheaper in time) then the worst that can happen is that you run into a game that either doesn't run or you need to increase your page file and have a performance drop.

Both of those, realistically, are non-issues if you can't afford to upgrade right now because gaming is a hobby, and no one should upgrade to play 1 or 2 games in a satisfactory way unless they have money to burn and don't mind being taken for a ride.

TL;DR: 16 BG isn't enough, but I would not bother upgrading if I couldn't afford to. At worst a game won't run -- then you just refund it and save money. Better and most likely scenarios are that you will need to increase your page file. If the game runs in Linux, that's also an option.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Originally posted by AmaiAmai:

If you don't want to spend money and will upgrade later (hardware typically gets cheaper in time).

If they wait too long, they shall fall into obsolescence fairly quickly and get stuck with used parts which is never ideal.

[AmaiAmai]

Originally posted by WinterSorrow:

Originally posted by AmaiAmai:

If you don't want to spend money and will upgrade later (hardware typically gets cheaper in time).

If they wait too long, they shall fall into obsolescence fairly quickly and get stuck with used parts which is never ideal. :chirp:

Yeah but what I meant to get at is that the games will probably still run, just that there will be some issues they face when running it. What issues? Don't know.

But I can think of an example: when compiling shaders on a buggy, unoptimised game it may take over an hour or more to do so because of their lack of RAM.

Now, that can be a deal breaker for some, but if someone had to choose between food, paying debt, or some other fund and some computer parts, I don't think they would care. It's also important to note that this isn't representative of all cases, just certain games that have terrible developers

The other thing is that they might just skip the game entirely if it runs like garbage and save their money.

I have no idea how the OP budgets money or what their expenses are, but I assume since they don't want to spend money on more RAM that it either costs a lot more than it does for me relative to their wages / earning potential, or they have expenses they would rather take care of before bothering with upgrading a PC.

[The Grin]

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

Would need to get more storage as well. 500 GB is a joke these days.

Yes, especially with some games having around 120-150 GB or unmodded games around 80 GB but whch can get as much as 150 modded if not more.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Originally posted by (^3^)/🛹:

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

Would need to get more storage as well. 500 GB is a joke these days.

Yes, especially with some games having around 120-150 GB or unmodded games around 80 GB but whch can get as much as 150 modded if not more.

Yep, with 500 GB you will get OS and few games and probably can`t even properly patch those few games without them whining that you don`t have enough storage space for patching.

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

I use a 500GB SSD for the OS drive and seemingly, taking up 50% of said drive.