AMD is amazing.

[Let it all out]

Still dropping CPU's for AM4 platform, still delivering epic drivers.

Thank you AMD for your dedication.

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Originally posted by potato:

they're amazing at being crap

It is crap for people with inability.

[AbedsBrother]

this is clearly bait

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Originally posted by potato:

Originally posted by Let it all out:

It is crap for people with inability.

yea you're right, i'm unable to use amd cause it's too crap

This is like blaming the tools for lack of ability, can you please stay on topic?

[A&A]

Re-release of the same processors on the AM4 platform. Ryzen 5 5600GT with the same iGPU Vega, which is no longer supported in AMD's open source Vulkan Linux driver and for Windows they receive semi-regular bug fixes.

[lsdninja]

Originally posted by ✠ A&A ✠:

Vega, which is no longer supported in AMD's open source Vulkan Linux driver

It’ll be supported in mesa/RADV (which is what most people are using) for years to come though. I’m pretty sure support was only dropped for some positively ancient S3 and 3dfx stuff either last year or the year before and those were 25-30 years old or more.

[_I_]

amd <-> intel
and
amd <-> nvidia

they always take turns since there is no 3rd competitor in the cpu or gpu markets
intel is way behind even for mobile igpu, nvidia tegra is the best other cpu which is just good enough for mobile devices

[A&A]

Mesa RADV is not a bad driver. In my experience AMDVLK is more stable.
Pre GCN GPUs should be able to work only with XF86 Video ATI driver.

[Let it all out]

Literally nothing even competes with AMD in the Linux space right now.

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

I might get a 5700x3d. I really see myself getting one if the price is right and it's in stock.

[It's Chase]

Their drivers are a bit eh in my opinion. Especially when they permanently enabled dxnavi across all their GPUs in a recent driver update.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Let it all out:

Literally nothing even competes with AMD in the Linux space right now.

That's not really true, not that many people use Linux and most that do are using AMD so there's a lot of bias and less factual information.

In terms of raw performance, sometimes AMD is more likely to take the lead but when there's a faster GPU like the 4090, it will obviously take the lead over the 7900-XTX, but in the same price point, the 7900-XTX beats the 4080 as it always had.

Where AMD has the benefit of the doubt on Linux is driver support, you have multiple options of drivers on Linux for AMD, but only two for NVIDIA; their proprietary driver, and the Nouveau driver, which sucks in comparison. Where support can be a benefit is when one driver has issues, you can at least try another driver. NVIDIA doesn't really give you that option, and don't even get me started on Intel ARC.

I game on Linux with a 3080 and my performance is still better than it was on Windows. Everything tends to perform better when your OS isn't sluggish garbage.

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Originally posted by r.linder:

Originally posted by Let it all out:

Literally nothing even competes with AMD in the Linux space right now.

That's not really true, not that many people use Linux and most that do are using AMD so there's a lot of bias and less factual information.

In terms of raw performance, sometimes AMD is more likely to take the lead but when there's a faster GPU like the 4090, it will obviously take the lead over the 7900-XTX, but in the same price point, the 7900-XTX beats the 4080 as it always had.

Where AMD has the benefit of the doubt on Linux is driver support, you have multiple options of drivers on Linux for AMD, but only two for NVIDIA; their proprietary driver, and the Nouveau driver, which sucks in comparison.

I game on Linux with a 3080 and my performance is still better than it was on Windows. Everything tends to perform better when your OS isn't sluggish garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLgAKrL3DWk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKCCX3CFAo

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Let it all out:

Originally posted by r.linder:

That's not really true, not that many people use Linux and most that do are using AMD so there's a lot of bias and less factual information.

In terms of raw performance, sometimes AMD is more likely to take the lead but when there's a faster GPU like the 4090, it will obviously take the lead over the 7900-XTX, but in the same price point, the 7900-XTX beats the 4080 as it always had.

Where AMD has the benefit of the doubt on Linux is driver support, you have multiple options of drivers on Linux for AMD, but only two for NVIDIA; their proprietary driver, and the Nouveau driver, which sucks in comparison.

I game on Linux with a 3080 and my performance is still better than it was on Windows. Everything tends to perform better when your OS isn't sluggish garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLgAKrL3DWk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKCCX3CFAo

So two heavily opinionated videos with no actual evidence, not going to waste time sitting through all of that. From my own personal experience, NVIDIA Is literally fine on Linux, AMD is more convenient because of support and easier compatibility with things like Wayland, but it doesn't magically make it 10x better than NVIDIA if you use Linux.

The point being that NVIDIA users shouldn't feel the need to have to jump on the AMD bandwagon.

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Originally posted by r.linder:

Originally posted by Let it all out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLgAKrL3DWk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKCCX3CFAo

So two heavily opinionated videos with no actual evidence, not going to waste time sitting through all of that. From my own personal experience, NVIDIA Is literally fine on Linux, AMD is more convenient because of support and easier compatibility with things like Wayland, but it doesn't magically make it 10x better than NVIDIA if you use Linux.

No evidence, then goes ahead and says why AMD is better on Linux.

Thank you for agreeing.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Let it all out:

Originally posted by r.linder:

So two heavily opinionated videos with no actual evidence, not going to waste time sitting through all of that. From my own personal experience, NVIDIA Is literally fine on Linux, AMD is more convenient because of support and easier compatibility with things like Wayland, but it doesn't magically make it 10x better than NVIDIA if you use Linux.

No evidence, then goes ahead and says why AMD is better on Linux.

Thank you for agreeing.

It's entirely subjective, it's specific instances where it makes more sense to choose AMD for Linux but in most cases it's not going to matter at all. You pick what works best for you, that's fine. NVIDIA has worked perfectly for me on Linux and that's just fine.

What isn't fine is spreading misinformation by saying that "literally nothing competes with AMD in the Linux space" when it's far from the truth, that's fanboy speak. But in reality where the rest of us live, NVIDIA does still compete because the Linux community has allowed them to compete. Intel will eventually be more competitive as well and they already do as far as CPUs go.