HDR. Does anyone use it really?

[Neriy Roe]

So I bought two 4k "gaming" HDR monitors. One was cheaper. The first time I tried it, I threw it away, I thought it was broken when I turned on HDR. It looked so dark and so many times worse than SDR.

Today, after spending many hours googling, I bought some expensive premium 4K HDR monitor. And everything looks so dark and so.... I don't know, I switched back to SDR.

Why the heck everyone keeps promoting this crap called "HDR"? It ALWAYS looks bad and so dark I can hardly see anything.

Returned this premium "gaming" crap and got back to my good old premium 2K *OFFICE* Dell. It looks many times brighter and sharper.

Everyone keeps giving some theoretical explanation why it's better, but in real-life it simply looks terrible. Maybe it only looks good on some luxurious displays that cost a fortune and more?

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

You need have Qled with minimum 1k Brightes or something to have decent HDR for a monitor. Which usually 2k usd

Generally speaking , Electronic device are always Gimmick , they put feature there to make you feel different thus make you superior, happy

[Neriy Roe]

Originally posted by ˢᵈˣ FatCat:

You need have Qled with minimum 1k Brightes or something to have decent HDR for a monitor. Which usually 2k usd

Generally speaking , Electronic device are always Gimmick , they put feature there to make you feel different thus make you superior, happy

Was just thinking the same, maybe HDR only "truly" works on OLED...

[C1REX]

I play on a Samsun QN90 gaming TV. It’s considered to have excellent HDR.
I occasionally turn it on but I don’t like it. It’s not dark on my screen. It’s a combination of very dark and eye burning bright.
The extreme contrast can look fantastic in some games like in Armored Core 6 but my eyes get tired when playing at night.

[Tiberius]

I always use hdr on my g9. There's a brightness slider in windows hdr setting if you find the image is too dark

[Worldzworstgamer]

I always use HDR if it is an option.

[Electric Cupcake]

HDR is mostly for watching media, not gaming.

Gaming can work, if you spend time tuning the in-game gamma and brightness and play with the lights off, but the slightest bit of external glare or reflection ruins it.

[Soulreaver]

HDR in Gaming is no On/Off it needs to be adjusted. On mine I also have adjusted 3 different presets because games manage their blacks differently.

The difference HDR can make is insane. But it's technology so there is a learning curve like with allmost all tech related stuff.

Maybe you're just not the target audience, some people get a 1440p/60hz VA Panel and thats their end all be all. And that's fine.

Originally posted by Neriy Roe:

Maybe it only looks good on some luxurious displays that cost a fortune and more?

For me, my 1500€ Monitor has way way worse HDR than my 1000€ TV.

It probably depends on what someone understands under a fortune but I think for around 700+ you can get pretty good HDR.

[Pocahawtness]

Originally posted by Neriy Roe:

So I bought two 4k "gaming" HDR monitors. One was cheaper. The first time I tried it, I threw it away, I thought it was broken when I turned on HDR. It looked so dark and so many times worse than SDR.

Today, after spending many hours googling, I bought some expensive premium 4K HDR monitor. And everything looks so dark and so.... I don't know, I switched back to SDR.

Why the heck everyone keeps promoting this crap called "HDR"? It ALWAYS looks bad and so dark I can hardly see anything.

Returned this premium "gaming" crap and got back to my good old premium 2K *OFFICE* Dell. It looks many times brighter and sharper.

Everyone keeps giving some theoretical explanation why it's better, but in real-life it simply looks terrible. Maybe it only looks good on some luxurious displays that cost a fortune and more?

Did you buy OLED? Because on anything less it is, to say the least, unimpressive.

I have an OLED monitor and HDR is spectacular. However, not all the time.

Firstly, Windows is not HDR so shows little difference. May even be worse. You need to use Windows Calibration from Microsoft to make it a little better. You can download it from them or get it from the Windows Store.

Secondly, not all HDR content is impressive. Destiny 2, Borderlands 3, these are some games that are really spectacular in HDR. I am sure there are more that I don't have.

I once got told off for telling people to use SDR most of the time then just switch to HDR when you play the game you prefer in HDR. Apparently, modern OLED monitors are intended to be run in HDR all the time? I dunno, I am not an expert, but I use something called Auto Actions to select when to enable HDR.

[Neriy Roe]

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Originally posted by Neriy Roe:

So I bought two 4k "gaming" HDR monitors. One was cheaper. The first time I tried it, I threw it away, I thought it was broken when I turned on HDR. It looked so dark and so many times worse than SDR.

Today, after spending many hours googling, I bought some expensive premium 4K HDR monitor. And everything looks so dark and so.... I don't know, I switched back to SDR.

Why the heck everyone keeps promoting this crap called "HDR"? It ALWAYS looks bad and so dark I can hardly see anything.

Returned this premium "gaming" crap and got back to my good old premium 2K *OFFICE* Dell. It looks many times brighter and sharper.

Everyone keeps giving some theoretical explanation why it's better, but in real-life it simply looks terrible. Maybe it only looks good on some luxurious displays that cost a fortune and more?

Did you buy OLED? Because on anything less it is, to say the least, unimpressive.

I have an OLED monitor and HDR is spectacular. However, not all the time.

Firstly, Windows is not HDR so shows little difference. May even be worse. You need to use Windows Calibration from Microsoft to make it a little better. You can download it from them or get it from the Windows Store.

Secondly, not all HDR content is impressive. Destiny 2, Borderlands 3, these are some games that are really spectacular in HDR. I am sure there are more that I don't have.

I once got told off for telling people to use SDR most of the time then just switch to HDR when you play the game you prefer in HDR. Apparently, modern OLED monitors are intended to be run in HDR all the time? I dunno, I am not an expert, but I use something called Auto Actions to select when to enable HDR.

It's LED-backlit LCD. But yeah, I've come to realization to look for OLED next time...

[Pocahawtness]

Originally posted by Neriy Roe:

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Did you buy OLED? Because on anything less it is, to say the least, unimpressive.

I have an OLED monitor and HDR is spectacular. However, not all the time.

Firstly, Windows is not HDR so shows little difference. May even be worse. You need to use Windows Calibration from Microsoft to make it a little better. You can download it from them or get it from the Windows Store.

Secondly, not all HDR content is impressive. Destiny 2, Borderlands 3, these are some games that are really spectacular in HDR. I am sure there are more that I don't have.

I once got told off for telling people to use SDR most of the time then just switch to HDR when you play the game you prefer in HDR. Apparently, modern OLED monitors are intended to be run in HDR all the time? I dunno, I am not an expert, but I use something called Auto Actions to select when to enable HDR.

It's LED-backlit LCD. But yeah, I've come to realization to look for OLED next time...

I wouldn't be upset. I don't use HDR very often. It only speeds up the demise of an OLED monitor anyway.

[The_Abortionator]

HDR I imagine could be great but it relies on overly hyper specific setups and games to really shine and even then its pretty meh which I find funny when its brought up as some kind of deal breaker to not have when most people don't even have a 120+hz monitor let alone an HDR 1000nit OLED.

[Rod]

You cannot just toggle on HDR you must understand its a mess on pc. First of all you need an OLED that can do HDR 1000+ nits the movies want 4000 nits. Very few displays can do peak hdr 1000 you need an AW3423DW.

Second, It needs calibrated. How does the game dev know your peak hdr? How do you have an on switch when it needs to know whats your peak? Some folks only have hdr400 you need to calibrate it. Most games dont even let you calibrate it.


I found Ori was breathtaking, Its just like a normal oled image but certain things can really pop thats the hdr making stuff like the sunset 1000 nits and keeping the rest just like sdr would look thats what proper hdr looks like.

[The_Abortionator]

Originally posted by Rod:

You cannot just toggle on HDR you must understand its a mess on pc. First of all you need an OLED that can do HDR 1000+ nits the movies want 4000 nits. Very few displays can do peak hdr 1000 you need an AW3423DW.

Second, It needs calibrated. How does the game dev know your peak hdr? How do you have an on switch when it needs to know whats your peak? Some folks only have hdr400 you need to calibrate it. Most games dont even let you calibrate it.

Lol, you literally can toggle HDR dude, both in Windows and Linux.

And not only can you select peak brightness in both games and the OS should you want but what do you mean "how does the game dev know your peak?" and "How do you have an on switch when it needs to know whats your peak?"?

Like for one if you calibrate anything that setting doesn't magically disappear. Did you think you lose that data?

Second, the game knows the same way it knows your refresh rate, resolution, display size, and DPI, its in the EDID dude.

PLEASE I beg of you, don't try to advise people on topics you don't understand.

[lailaamell]

Originally posted by ˢᵈˣ FatCat:

You need have Qled with minimum 1k Brightes or something to have decent HDR for a monitor. Which usually 2k usd

Generally speaking , Electronic device are always Gimmick , they put feature there to make you feel different thus make you superior, happy

think you wrote that wrong qled is not good with hdr only really works with oled

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Originally posted by ˢᵈˣ FatCat:

You need have Qled with minimum 1k Brightes or something to have decent HDR for a monitor. Which usually 2k usd

Generally speaking , Electronic device are always Gimmick , they put feature there to make you feel different thus make you superior, happy

think you wrote that wrong qled is not good with hdr only really works with oled

yeah, i mean Oled obviously, but thx anyway