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I mainly want a pc that can game 1080p and higher at a consistent 60 fps (I do not care about any higher
frames) without ever overclocking as I want my pc to last a full 12 years or longer. So sharp crisp image quality and never stutter performance.
I'm kinda all over the place with games, shooters, rpgs, not a lot of rts but I play em every now and again.
Basically Wana be able to play whatever catches my eye.
The main thing that's kicking this off is I Wana get into emulating 2005-2015 games and my pc isn't good enough for the later stuff.
I'm in the US and I'm planning on this to be my one big Christmas purchase so let's do between 500-800 dollars and see if that can land me somewhere good.
Ryzen 7800X3D CPU
Good CPU Cooler such as Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 (or better thermal-wise)
RTX 4070 or better
2x 16GB DDR5 6000
2x SSDs
Clean install of 64bit; Win10 22H2 or Win11 24H2
Look at 1440p 165-240Hz Monitor w/ DP and GSync or FreeSync Premium
Can you include the info where to buy it for 800USD?
If you want to stick with 800$ (or below) you need much more basic setup, like:
AM4 Motherboard with B550
Ryzen 5600
2x16GB RAM 3600CL18
2TB SSD
RTX 4060
here is example:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9mvKq
The good part is, it will allow you to play games on 1080p at 60fps.
I wouldn't dare to say that it will be good for next 10 years, (Nothing will be anyway)
I don't advice Windows, but that's your choice.
First-timer builds are usually pretty basic and very affordable.
Comment #7 has a more reasonable approach. Future proofing doesn't actually exist, so not sure what that actually means. A program could be released tomorrow that makes the new PC obsolete, therefore, future proofing isn't real.
I built a pretty nice secondary PC with a 5700x3d. My 12600k is also a high-value option.
- Future proofing: 1080p/60 up to 12 years from now? If Moore's Law somehow isn't dead, then that would seem impossible. Throw in an attempt to not get higher frames now, and you are arguing with yourself. I want 60 FPS 12 years from now, but not 240 FPS today. = I want a 2 ton pickup truck that is also a Moped scooter, but only one vehicle.
If Moore's Law isn't dead, then to get 1080p/60 12 years from now, you would need 1080p/240 FPS now. Moore's Law used to suggest that performance would double every two years. Now we are eyeing doubling every 6 years, with the potential for a plateau or the death of Moore's Law.
Otherwise, your plans are simply to stick with a single "generation" of games, and not play the newest ones in 12 years. 9th Generation titles are gaining a reputation for not getting consistent 60 FPS on anything but the fastest CPUs, and so on your budget, you might want to limit yourself to 8th Generation releases, and Steam Deck Verified titles.
- Overclocking: Everything is overclocked from the factory these days. Get used to it. Turbo, Boost, XMP, everything is overclocked.
- Budget: $500 USD budget, isn't really a gaming rig budget. Definitely not one with future proof considerations, I doubt you could run "The Last of Us Part 1" at a locked and crisp 1080p/60 on a $500 USD budget. $800 sounds reasonable, and may last longer than expected if Moore's Law is dead and performance gains have plateaued in regards to the next 12 years or longer.
Microsoft might have something to say about a system lasting 12 years. They don't like to support systems that long. Though, Microsoft does seem to be looking to move to ad-supported operating systems in the future. Pay for your operating system by having malvertising on your desktop, free viruses!
Tower
Power supply
Motherboard Asrock z690
CPU refurbished 6 core i5 12th gen
Ram 32GB dd5 4000
Keyboard personal preference
Mouse personal preference
Mouse pad personal preference
Storage can go up to evo 990 1TB
GPU Radeon 500 series
Desk wire rack(s)
Chair drum stool
Battery Backup nothing in proper range of $
Disc Drives Externals from prior systems
Operating System to many to list and costs vary
Around up to 600 leaves 200+ for powersupply tower and if monitor don't have which should be after get parts and do proper measurements.
This is not high end this is pci 3x16 gpu with properly more fun to get to run then necessary &
I TOO
Have the same question
in 2012 i got average i7-2700k, asus mavimus iv, the 2012 amd gpu, random ram, corsair 750w, giant noctua fan, ect...
every 1 or 2 years i buy a new $60 pc case from newegg and do a quick swap, kinda like an inventory.
by the time i swap all the parts, all the dirt and ♥♥♥♥ falls off and i basically have a new computer all over again.
sometimes all the parts dont make the cut, last swap in 2022 i decided to throw in a 1660 spuer to give me a few more years of gaming
that worked ok but now it times to do the motherboard and cpu, ill go amd/asus motherboard.
i need to get a $50 16gb piece of ram to hold me over until i feel like spending more money. ill keep the stock cooler for a while too.
i spend less than $500 every 5 years, i will be playing gta6 on low settings. (no i wont i just read it wont be here for pc until the end of 2025, thats like 10 dog years in computer hardware tech, ill doubt my 1660 super will start gta 6 at all, i might need to upgrade cpu again by then. damn those guys what are they doing)
some people make more money than they have time. then you ,ight as well spec out a premium pc that you will throw inthe garbage and replace every 5 years. thats ok too.
At any given point in time technology can only be so advanced and going further up the stack often sees diminishing returns, so you're not seeing proportionate gains with the amount of extra money you're spending and just spending a lot of extra money to be stuck with today's technology. It might be better, but it doesn't scale proportionate to the amount of money you sink into it.
An RTX 4090 costs 70% more but it's only maybe 30% better than a 4080 super. I'm usually expecting a more or less 15% uplift in P.C. hardware per generation, so for the $700 I'm only expecting it to last one or maybe two years longer than an RTX 4080 super. Assuming a 6 year upgrade cycle, which is what's fairly typical at the moment[www.pcworld.com], you'd want it to last at least 4 years longer to justify 70% extra cost. Two extra years over an expected 6 year upgrade cycle only gets you up to 8 years.
12 years ago the top of the line Nvidia card would've been the GTX 690. It cost $1,000. Next card down was the GTX 680. That only cost $500. If you had bought a a GTX 680 in 2012, then 6 years later bought a 1070 ti, you'd be far better off today for that same total amount in terms of overall performance, and at least $50 richer (maybe more if you sold off the 680). Might not even be looking for an upgrade actually, since the 1070 ti meets the minimum requirements for games Starfield and Alan Wake 2, which are two of the most demanding P.C. titles to date. Granted, minimum reqs. are generally 30 F.P.S., lowest settings but that's at least playable.
The proper way to future proof is to spec. out a system that you estimate should last you 3 to 6 years, then see if there are any expenditures you think you can make that will disproportionately increase the lifespan for not much extra cost so you can carry it forward a bit longer.
Even the RTX 4090 isn't holding out extraordinarily well if you're trying to play the latest most demanding games at their very highest settings at 4k res, even though it's literally the best suited card for that usage case. Kinda makes sense given that we're on the cusp of a new G.P.U. generation.
Earlier this year I might've told you that the RTX 4070 Super was one of the best deals on the market in terms of price to performance, but the 4070 Super hasn't had its price drop much since it was introduced ealier this year. They're typically $600 cards. The 7900 XT has had its price drop significantly, and it's possibly a better card than even the 4070 Ti.
Knowing you can get an Asrock Phantom Gaming RX 7900 XT for just $650[www.amazon.com] makes it the much, much better deal in my opinion, especially since it has more V.R.A.M. than its nearest competitors from Nvidia.
Plus look, your computer's so old right now that assuming it was originally a mid-tier system, even very low end parts are going to represent a massive uplift.
Now if you want to try and build a computer that'll last you for the next 10 years you're free to try, but I think if you look back on the attempt critically, with the benefit of hindsight, I expect that you'd discover it was a regrettable decision. Granted, owners of higher end GTX 10X0 series cards might disagree, but they were the lucky exception to the rule rather than the example to follow.
Also, one last thing to keep in mind is that the bean counters at the major tech companies probably have a planned obsolescence strategy to optimize a steady stream of revenue for the company, and I doubt that plan involves only receiving money from you once per decade. The house always wins.
My advice is to stay the your lane of what you need for the next five years, and look at the next tier up or maybe even down to determine if it's a disproportionately good value for the price on offer.
"Future-proofing" is a marketing buzzword.
Just buy the best parts with the budget you have now.