lakku 5. nov. 2013 kl. 9:09
Installed new RAM
And it's all gone to hell.

My motherboard is ASUS M4A77TD and I had 2x 2GB Team Elite DDR3 1333mhz already on my mobo. The PC works fine, went out to buy more RAM yesterday because of ridiculous Call of Duty: Ghosts requirement. The ram I bought was ADATA 4GB DDR3 1333mhz. All these have the same voltage and frequency.

I plugged the 4GB RAM my blue port and the 2x 2GB sticks my black ports. My computer won't load the BIOS. I thought it was faulty, went to store today and picked up 2x 2GB off the same brand. Same frequency and voltage. Still nothing. With all these sticks in, my computer won't load the BIOS. I plugged the new sticks in ONLY and it started loading my Windows but then went to bluescreen of death. These sticks can't be dead, either I'm doing something wrong or it's all gone to hell.
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Spencer 6. nov. 2013 kl. 0:45 
Oprindeligt skrevet af lakku:
Think I might be typing wrong with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ english put.

Currently I have:

2x 2GB A-DATA DDR3 1333mhz (back in their packages now)
2x 2GB Team Elite DDR3 1333mhz (these are STICKED IN right now so that I could be writing here.)

All of the above sticked in to my motherboard, it won't load my BIOS.

All of the RAMs are dual channel.

Anytime you have 4 slots the requirements go up, motherboards get pickier about working when you fill up all the slots that way, its in those cases where matched ram is most important, not to say it never works, but when it doesn't, that's the answer. I'm sure all the sticks will work on their own, but when all slots filled, fudge factor goes down I guess, and so you probably will need matched ram to work if you are unlucky.. its why motherboards have certified "working" lists of ram, they only guarantee it working with what they've tested, nothing more, anything else is luck.
Sidst redigeret af Spencer; 6. nov. 2013 kl. 0:48
lakku 6. nov. 2013 kl. 1:10 
My CPU is AMD Phenom 955
_I_ 6. nov. 2013 kl. 3:00 
c2 or c3?
rev c3 cpus have a better imc
c2 can run 4 dimms at a max of 1333
c3 can run 4 dimms at any speed
mmmcheesywaffles 6. nov. 2013 kl. 3:23 
If you are still having boot issues I suggest you replace your mobo CMOS Battery.

Faulty batteries can produce irregular charge which can garble the settings. And casue timing issues with RAM and other parts



Sidst redigeret af mmmcheesywaffles; 6. nov. 2013 kl. 3:23
lakku 7. nov. 2013 kl. 15:32 
It's C3 but If I had a C2 that wouldn't be a problem. Since all my memory sticks are 1333mhz. After "enjoying" that unoptimized game that was Call of Duty: Ghosts, I decided to return to my problem. Still had one stick to install so I could get my full 8GB. Nope, the computer won't boot at all. And after booting my PC, it won't load with the 6GB of memory as well.

I just cleared my CMOS, still nothing. I checked my mobos manual the same A-DATA memory is on the supported vendor list. Even the same model. The timings are the same, frequencies, all of them are CL9, DDR3, 1333mhz, 1.5V. Cleared CMOS. I'm just so freaking confused.

I guess the only option I have left is flashing my BIOS?

Also, if it boots with the new RAM, BIOS reports that "overclocking failed" which is kinda weird since I haven't overclocked anything on my PC except my GPU which I restored to factory clocks. Nor I have changed any voltages.
Sidst redigeret af rotNdude; 8. nov. 2013 kl. 8:45
Joker 7. nov. 2013 kl. 16:55 
I'd suggest getting a memory kit like this.

Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333 MHz (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory (CMV8GX3M2A1333C9)

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMV8GX3M2A1333C9/dp/B0055LGG3Y/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1383868052&sr=8-8&keywords=1333+dual+channel+8gb

There is an 8GB Team Elite DDR3 PC3-10666 1333MHz (9-9-9) Dual Channel kit from Amazon Market sellers.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004039HL6/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Read these links for tips on how to solve your problem.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1735112/windows-boot-memory-installed.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264615-29-overclocking-failed-overclocking-system

"Well friends this problem really got into my nerves while I was still new to it and it required me to press the power button more than once before system actually boots up..After much despair and disappointment, what worked for me to get rid of this problem is what I am gonna post here..And its fairly simple,I swapped RAM..I have an MSI G41-P26 mainboard with the base of all x64 Intel CPUs, the humble old guy' pentium 4 ,3.00 GHz ,Cedar Mill V with 1 core and 2 logical processors.The CPU FSB is 200 MhZ and 2 x 2 GB Dynet DDR3 800 MHz Memory modules....The problem 'not booting at once'crept up in the machine with occasional annoying messages of 'overclocking failed' without doing so...The problem worsened still when amid such message, smell of something burning leaked out of the mainboard with system not responding at all from that point..,it would power on, fans would spin ,no beeps, no display.. So i one by one tested my memory modules and found that the problem rested on overclocked RAM modules, as they were in dual channel,and collectively clocking more than the prescribed DIMM frequency the Mainboard supplies with.So two things could be done, either underclock the RAM modules in BIOS by adjusting the Fsb DIMM ratio or pull out one of the RAM modules..so i am using only one of my 2 x2 GB memory modules rigorously checked for any faults.Bear in mind that one of your RAM modules might also be faulty...creating the problem..so overclocking means RAM issue usually.After I yanked out one of my RAMs, my system has been working fine..Hope you find 'what worked for me' useful!"
lakku 7. nov. 2013 kl. 17:08 
Oprindeligt skrevet af _I_:
what cpu?

many amd am3 c2 rev cpus cant run fast with 4 dimms

post a cpuz validation link
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
cpuz -> about tab -> validation button -> submit button
itll open a browser, copy the url(address) and paste it here

Hey. Sorry I'm a little late but here's the link.

http://valid.canardpc.com/g2wrf4

Oprindeligt skrevet af Xxplosive:
I'd suggest getting a memory kit like this.

Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333 MHz (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory (CMV8GX3M2A1333C9)

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMV8GX3M2A1333C9/dp/B0055LGG3Y/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1383868052&sr=8-8&keywords=1333+dual+channel+8gb

There is an 8GB Team Elite DDR3 PC3-10666 1333MHz (9-9-9) Dual Channel kit from Amazon Market sellers.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004039HL6/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Read these links for tips on how to solve your problem.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1735112/windows-boot-memory-installed.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264615-29-overclocking-failed-overclocking-system

"Well friends this problem really got into my nerves while I was still new to it and it required me to press the power button more than once before system actually boots up..After much despair and disappointment, what worked for me to get rid of this problem is what I am gonna post here..And its fairly simple,I swapped RAM..I have an MSI G41-P26 mainboard with the base of all x64 Intel CPUs, the humble old guy' pentium 4 ,3.00 GHz ,Cedar Mill V with 1 core and 2 logical processors.The CPU FSB is 200 MhZ and 2 x 2 GB Dynet DDR3 800 MHz Memory modules....The problem 'not booting at once'crept up in the machine with occasional annoying messages of 'overclocking failed' without doing so...The problem worsened still when amid such message, smell of something burning leaked out of the mainboard with system not responding at all from that point..,it would power on, fans would spin ,no beeps, no display.. So i one by one tested my memory modules and found that the problem rested on overclocked RAM modules, as they were in dual channel,and collectively clocking more than the prescribed DIMM frequency the Mainboard supplies with.So two things could be done, either underclock the RAM modules in BIOS by adjusting the Fsb DIMM ratio or pull out one of the RAM modules..so i am using only one of my 2 x2 GB memory modules rigorously checked for any faults.Bear in mind that one of your RAM modules might also be faulty...creating the problem..so overclocking means RAM issue usually.After I yanked out one of my RAMs, my system has been working fine..Hope you find 'what worked for me' useful!"

That last topic was really confusing to read. So basically, I should just get a set of 2x 4GB same vendor or more of the Team-Elite RAM? The prices of the Team-Elite in one of the Finnish shops is insane. 110€
Sidst redigeret af rotNdude; 8. nov. 2013 kl. 8:46
Joker 7. nov. 2013 kl. 18:17 
I think your best bet is buying one of these 2x4GB kits & put them in the slots where your original memory was.

another link for tips

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/259318-30-bios-load-installed

This suggests it could be your motherboard.

It's possible one of the unused memory slots got dusty over time & now doesn't work right or one of the ADATA sticks is bad. You could try booting each stick alone to see if a certain one causes the problem. Getting a memory kit to achieve the amount you want ensures compatibility with each dimm. I'm out of ideas. I've been racking my brain on this subject for the past few hours. lol :D
Sidst redigeret af Joker; 7. nov. 2013 kl. 21:23
Spencer 7. nov. 2013 kl. 21:11 
Oprindeligt skrevet af lakku:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Xxplosive:
I'd suggest getting a memory kit like this.

Corsair 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1333 MHz (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory (CMV8GX3M2A1333C9)

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-2x4GB-Desktop-Memory-CMV8GX3M2A1333C9/dp/B0055LGG3Y/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1383868052&sr=8-8&keywords=1333+dual+channel+8gb

There is an 8GB Team Elite DDR3 PC3-10666 1333MHz (9-9-9) Dual Channel kit from Amazon Market sellers.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004039HL6/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Read these links for tips on how to solve your problem.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1735112/windows-boot-memory-installed.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264615-29-overclocking-failed-overclocking-system

"Well friends this problem really got into my nerves while I was still new to it and it required me to press the power button more than once before system actually boots up..After much despair and disappointment, what worked for me to get rid of this problem is what I am gonna post here..And its fairly simple,I swapped RAM..I have an MSI G41-P26 mainboard with the base of all x64 Intel CPUs, the humble old guy' pentium 4 ,3.00 GHz ,Cedar Mill V with 1 core and 2 logical processors.The CPU FSB is 200 MhZ and 2 x 2 GB Dynet DDR3 800 MHz Memory modules....The problem 'not booting at once'crept up in the machine with occasional annoying messages of 'overclocking failed' without doing so...The problem worsened still when amid such message, smell of something burning leaked out of the mainboard with system not responding at all from that point..,it would power on, fans would spin ,no beeps, no display.. So i one by one tested my memory modules and found that the problem rested on overclocked RAM modules, as they were in dual channel,and collectively clocking more than the prescribed DIMM frequency the Mainboard supplies with.So two things could be done, either underclock the RAM modules in BIOS by adjusting the Fsb DIMM ratio or pull out one of the RAM modules..so i am using only one of my 2 x2 GB memory modules rigorously checked for any faults.Bear in mind that one of your RAM modules might also be faulty...creating the problem..so overclocking means RAM issue usually.After I yanked out one of my RAMs, my system has been working fine..Hope you find 'what worked for me' useful!"

That last topic was really confusing to read. So basically, I should just get a set of 2x 4GB same vendor or more of the Team-Elite RAM? The prices of the Team-Elite in one of the Finnish shops is insane. 110€

Your ram should be all matched or on the certified as working list for the motherboard
mmmcheesywaffles 8. nov. 2013 kl. 0:12 
Probably already flashed your BIOS by now... but have you tried my advice at #19?
lakku 8. nov. 2013 kl. 3:20 
Oprindeligt skrevet af mmmcheesywaffles:
Probably already flashed your BIOS by now... but have you tried my advice at #19?

I just went to sleep because I got tired of the situation, lol. I haven't tried replacing my battery. I cleared my CMOS through the jumper two times.

Basically step by step what I did yesterday.

Turned off my PC
Put all the sticks in
Cleared CMOS with the jumper
Turned my PC back on
Loads the BIOS screen
Entered setup to load default values & set time and date
Exit & save changes
PC boots again
No bleep, won't load BIOS

I'm seriously considering now just to buy 2x 4GB Team-Elite ones. DDR3 1333mhz, I found some store with a decent price but I hate to say that if those two don't work either I'm seriously flipping my balls here.

Also, I contacted ASUS yesterday about this and all they said was:


"please adjust the ram speeds manually to the correct ones in the bios

Please feel free to reply in either English, Finnish or Swedish."
Sidst redigeret af rotNdude; 8. nov. 2013 kl. 8:47
Spencer 8. nov. 2013 kl. 3:25 
Its unlikey to be cmos battery, your settings would be screwed up0 if that went out.

in bios auto detect should have already set the ram timings based on what the ram stick tells it.
you can double check vs the timings on the label, but its unlikely to be the problem unless your sticks have different timing speeds and or you changed them manually

lakku 8. nov. 2013 kl. 3:28 
All of the sticks are on same timing. CL9, 9-9-9

Would ordering the Team-Elite 2x 4GB DDR3 1333mhz kit fix my issue?
mmmcheesywaffles 8. nov. 2013 kl. 3:32 
Oprindeligt skrevet af lakku:
All of the sticks are on same timing. CL9, 9-9-9

Would ordering the Team-Elite 2x 4GB DDR3 1333mhz kit fix my issue?

And still not tried replacing your battery?

RAM needs a mobo presenting accurate timings... IF your battery is not giving consistant voltages [as sometimes happens] then it can disrurb those timings nad cause RAM rrors amongst others.

At least try it. It's easier than changing settings!
lakku 8. nov. 2013 kl. 3:36 
I just checked my motherboards box from the closet and there's no spare battery. Should there be?
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