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Randy Marsh 2023 年 5 月 14 日 下午 4:01
RTX 2080 Ti or RX 6750 XT?
I can’t decide, which one to get?

“Refurbished” RTX 2080 Ti: $325 USD

“Open Box” RX 6750 XT: $380 USD
最後修改者:Randy Marsh; 2023 年 5 月 14 日 下午 6:20
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r.linder 2023 年 5 月 16 日 下午 10:20 
引用自 🦜Cloud Boy🦜
you can't compare Nvidia and AMD cards directly. Nvidia has better Ray tracing and DLSS.

AMD always sells their cards around 20% cheaper than Nvidia and below their listed MSRP, that's how they survive in the market..
Most gamers still don't care about raytracing, and DLSS doesn't have much support and can't just be supported by any game without clearance from NVIDIA, whereas AMD provides FSR freely on their website so any game developer can use it. It's not as good as DLSS in what they do, but it's still an effective version by AMD that benefits NVIDIA GTX users as well, since DLSS is only supported by RTX.

Keep coping, shill. Maybe the leather jacket man will give you a pat on the back for many years of blind servitude to a brand that doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about you. Literally any time GPUs are mentioned, you're screeching about NVIDIA vs AMD. Nobody freaking cares, the masses only care about performance per dollar, of which AMD easily wins.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2023 年 5 月 16 日 下午 10:21
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 5 月 16 日 下午 10:58 
Yes I think that was cool; being able to still utilize FSR2 in games like RDR2 while only using GTX 900 / 10 / 16 series GPUs.
Overseer 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 12:07 
引用自 🦜Cloud Boy🦜
you can't compare Nvidia and AMD cards directly. Nvidia has better Ray tracing and DLSS.

AMD always sells their cards around 20% cheaper than Nvidia and below their listed MSRP, that's how they survive in the market..
Of course you can compare two products. That's how this world works.
And then all of a sudden running modern engines with proper software support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHzcdr3wL3E
the RTX 3060 Ti and the RX 6700 XT are even at ray tracing in 1080p - if you like to play at below 60 FPS on your 400 USD entry/budget card.
plat 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 8:16 
引用自 Overseer
And its much deeper than that because Nvidia cards do have an overhead. Where sometimes a Nvidia card can have like a 45% CPU usage where the AMD card at the same framerate is sitting at 30% CPU usage. Its complicated. Which then sometimes means the AMD cards pull ahead simply because of Nvidias CPU overhead.

If one runs Windows, is this something hardware-accelerated gpu scheduling can address?

https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-10-gpu-hardware-scheduling-worth-turning-on/

By the way, I experimented w/ this b/c my processor is not an ideal match for my NV gpu and tried it for one day. I perceived a slight, general slowdown so I disabled it.

Edit: you're not supposed to notice anything if this is enabled but I did. Just an idea. Maybe it works for others.
最後修改者:plat; 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 8:18
N3tRunn3r 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 8:18 
2080 Ti is about 20%~50% better than the RX
r.linder 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 8:27 
引用自 N3tRunn3r
2080 Ti is about 20%~50% better than the RX
Don’t spread misinformation.

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/intel-core-i9-10900k-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/ Nowhere near 20%.
xSOSxHawkens 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 8:31 
引用自 N3tRunn3r
2080 Ti is about 20%~50% better than the RX
lol.

Did you get this off userbench or something? Cuz post number one has video proof this is flat out wrong.

Im not re-watching it again but if I remember correctly the RX took the win in FPS in all but one game? It didnt take huge wins, they are similar cards, but of the two the 2080ti is the slower one more often than not. No where near 20-50% better...
r.linder 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 8:40 
引用自 xSOSxHawkens
引用自 N3tRunn3r
2080 Ti is about 20%~50% better than the RX
lol.

Did you get this off userbench or something? Cuz post number one has video proof this is flat out wrong.

Im not re-watching it again but if I remember correctly the RX took the win in FPS in all but one game? It didnt take huge wins, they are similar cards, but of the two the 2080ti is the slower one more often than not. No where near 20-50% better...
GPUCheck put it within 5%, most accurate site from what I can tell
Overseer 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 9:16 
引用自 plat
引用自 Overseer
And its much deeper than that because Nvidia cards do have an overhead. Where sometimes a Nvidia card can have like a 45% CPU usage where the AMD card at the same framerate is sitting at 30% CPU usage. Its complicated. Which then sometimes means the AMD cards pull ahead simply because of Nvidias CPU overhead.

If one runs Windows, is this something hardware-accelerated gpu scheduling can address?
No as far as i know its the Nvidia driver itself and it just likes to talk to the CPU.
Bad 💀 Motha 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:05 
If you are going to be running RT enabled games on a 3060 or 3060 Ti then of course the FPS is going to be lowered. That's where DLSS comes into play so you can bring the FPS back up again with very minimal losses to overall image quality

The problem there though is it can all come down to drivers sometimes too. But also with regards to DLSS, this has a DLL usually in the game folder. The version of the DLSS DLL file can dictate the overall quality of the DLSS in the game.
最後修改者:Bad 💀 Motha; 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:07
N3tRunn3r 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:27 
引用自 N3tRunn3r
2080 Ti is about 20%~50% better than the RX
Don’t spread misinformation.

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/intel-core-i9-10900k-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/ Nowhere near 20%.

Oh really?

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-6750-XT/4027vsm1845738

引用自 xSOSxHawkens
引用自 N3tRunn3r
2080 Ti is about 20%~50% better than the RX
lol.

Did you get this off userbench or something? Cuz post number one has video proof this is flat out wrong.

..

I would trust userbenchmark a million times more than any random clickbait YT link and clip..

This YT video clip doesnt even show real settings set. Not to mention any settings shown out of the nvidia control panel and that amd control panel. And what about GPU drivers? Are these been latest?

Anyone favors either nvidia or amd crap.. if customers or even benchmark devs.

If players want "reliable stuff", stick to nvidia and intel.

Also just check Steam's Hardware Survey.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

~76% use Nvidia GPU
~15% use AMD unstable experimentals
最後修改者:N3tRunn3r; 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:40
r.linder 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:40 
引用自 N3tRunn3r
Don’t spread misinformation.

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/intel-core-i9-10900k-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/ Nowhere near 20%.

Oh really?

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-6750-XT/4027vsm1845738

引用自 xSOSxHawkens
lol.

Did you get this off userbench or something? Cuz post number one has video proof this is flat out wrong.

..

I would trust userbenchmark a million times more than any random clickbait YT link and clip..

This clickbait YT video clip doesnt even show real settings set. Not to mention settings out of the nvidia control panel and that amd contral panel.
Dude. Everyone that knows what they're talking about knows that UserBenchmark is ran by a lunatic that bases his entire benchmark around making Intel and NVIDIA look better than AMD, it's literally banned on PC forums all over the internet, and nobody takes that site seriously unless they've been living under a rock.

Every time there's a new product launch from AMD, the site admin (goes by the name CPUPro and GPUPro) changes his benchmark, then goes on a hateful rampage and spreads misinformation, and he pays good money to have his site put at the top of search engine suggestions when someone is looking for benchmark sites, which is then bolstered by people using the site either for the garbage benchmark tool or lack of knowledge about the site's true intentions.

Pretty much every other benchmark shows that the 6750-XT is right around the same as the 2080 Ti.
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-vs-Radeon-RX-6750-XT
https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti/intel-core-i9-10900k-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/

The reviews at launch placed it around the 3070, but it's faster now because AMD's performance improves after launch as drivers are updated.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2462-amd-radeon-6750xt/
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-6750-xt-review/4

Good luck on PC forums believing and peddling that crap, you'll get eaten alive for spreading misinformation like that. And the survey isn't entirely accurate since it can easily be ignored and doesn't always ask.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:43
N3tRunn3r 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:44 
How would someone modify hundreds of thousands of "user" made benchmarks?

And: https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-vs-Radeon-RX-6750-XT

  • 2080 Ti has 4352 CUDA Cores in where the RX 6750 XT has just 2560

  • 2080 Ti has 18.6 million transistors in where the RX 6750 XT has just 17.2

  • 2080 Ti has a texture fill rate of 420.2 in where the RX 6750 XT has just 416

On that technical specs category page, it also clearly shows the RX is overclocked a lot..

Lets continue:

  • 2080 Ti has 352 Bit Memory bus while the RX 6750 XT has just 192

  • 2080 Ti has 616 GB/s bandwidth while the RX 6750 XT has just 432 GB/s

  • ..and it again shows an overclocked memory speed..

The RX 6750 XT is nothing but an overclocked and unstable burning pallet. Just like any other AMD/Ati hardware crap..
最後修改者:N3tRunn3r; 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:56
r.linder 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:45 
引用自 N3tRunn3r
How would someone modify hundreds of thousands of "user" made benchmarks?
He changes the algorithm. Were you in a coma for the last decade? Most of us know, and it's BANNED to use that site in most major forums because the site is full of lies and sparks heated debates.

It has metrics that are merely snake oil, they only exist to be skewed against AMD. UBM is the only site to use said metrics like "effective speed." UBM doesn't make use of Passmark or other GPU benchmarks either, because it would reveal more lies.
最後修改者:r.linder; 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:53
kingDRUIDuk 2023 年 5 月 17 日 上午 10:46 
Personally i like Nvidia's RTX but it's software based shaders?, I'm still confused why they charge so much money?. i use a recompiled version of reshade that enhances vulkan. looks pretty good to me.
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