If I go from the 3900x to the 5950x will i gain a lot of FPS?
I have the rx6900xt in my rack and I think of upgrading my CPU and I saw the 5950x on sale fo $370. Will I gain a lot of FPS through this upgrade?
Originally posted by xSOSxHawkens:
First, to answer your question, yes.

Source: Someone who went from a 3900x (still own) to a 5950x (still using). I run on an x570 Unify for my main rig, and when upgraded I put the 3900x into a B550 extreme 4.

Both are great, but the 5950x is noticeably faster for games and for general use. The games were noticeable off the bat. The daily drive general use felt a tiny bit better from my perception, till I go back and use the 3900x and realize how much longer I wait for things to happen comparably (even basic windows things). The delay is unknowable, till you have been without it, then you go to the 3900x and notice that tiny bit longer windows take to open and load, etc. Not web-pages, but general explorer windows.

Both machines boot from identical Gen 4 m.2's and mine has physical storage (HDD) in it too where hers is only SSD (gen 4 and a gen 3 secondary) so if anything hers should be faster. Only real areas where the machine can feel slower is the CPU and the RAM, and we have swapped ram once for other reasons, so I know its just the 3900x thats the slower part.

*BUT* for your intended use case, games and higher FPS, I would look instead at the 5800x3D. It is the best AM4 socket game chip. And with the nice IPC uplift the 5800x will be roughly comparable to your 3900x in total CPU loading for things like video renders and such. But in games the 3d cache will result in much faster frame rates than either of the R9 chips. I have a friend who got into AM4 later than I did and he went 5600 to 5800x3d and his chip def out-games my 5950x. Though I can still stomp him in a video render lol.
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Cathulhu Apr 19, 2023 @ 3:28am 
A lot? Depends on what you see as a lot.
Also depends on the game and the resolution you play at.

Way to vague a question to be able to properly answer it.

And to be honest, get a 5800X3D instad of a 5950X if you are looking for the best performance in games. Not only is it cheaper, you also get more performance in games. The 5950X has strengths elsewhere.

Make sure your mainboard, PSU and cooling can manage it.
Last edited by Cathulhu; Apr 19, 2023 @ 3:29am
_I_ Apr 19, 2023 @ 3:34am 
it also depends on the board
emoticorpse Apr 19, 2023 @ 3:51am 
I don't think so
🦜Cloud Boy🦜 Apr 19, 2023 @ 4:44am 
There is no need for 12 or 16 core CPUs for gaming, the performance gain is very minimal once you past the 6c/12t mark, the 7600x will give you more fps than your 16 core 5950x.
Last edited by 🦜Cloud Boy🦜; Apr 19, 2023 @ 4:45am
Komarimaru Apr 19, 2023 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by 🦜Cloud Boy🦜:
There is no need for 12 or 16 core CPUs for gaming, the performance gain is very minimal once you past the 6c/12t mark, the 7600x will give you more fps than your 16 core 5950x.
I wouldn't say that.. Stock to Stock, they are equal. Overclocked slightly, the 5950X soars ahead due to more headroom to OC than the AM5 chips.

Better bet would be to get a 5800X3D, that has a chance at better FPS than a 5950X and 7950X lol

Heck, reason I haven't left my 5950X yet, is because with its OC, it equals a 7950X nearly, while running cooler to boot.

I'll prob update on next AMD/Intel generation, since the upgrade is so minor atm personally and need a CPU for work loads and gaming.

3900X vs 5950X, is like... 10-30 FPS, if you're rocking a 3090TI+ at 1080p. 1440p and higher, negligible imho unless rocking a 4090.

So, I vote get a 5800X3D, if you're not using those cores for workloads as well.
Last edited by Komarimaru; Apr 19, 2023 @ 5:05am
🦜Cloud Boy🦜 Apr 19, 2023 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by Komarimaru:
Originally posted by 🦜Cloud Boy🦜:
There is no need for 12 or 16 core CPUs for gaming, the performance gain is very minimal once you past the 6c/12t mark, the 7600x will give you more fps than your 16 core 5950x.
I wouldn't say that.. Stock to Stock, they are equal. Overclocked slightly, the 5950X soars ahead due to more headroom to OC than the AM5 chips.

Better bet would be to get a 5800X3D, that has a chance at better FPS than a 5950X and 7950X lol

Heck, reason I haven't left my 5950X yet, is because with its OC, it equals a 7950X nearly, while running cooler to boot.

I'll prob update on next AMD/Intel generation, since the upgrade is so minor atm personally and need a CPU for work loads and gaming.

3900X vs 5950X, is like... 10-30 FPS, if you're rocking a 3090TI+ at 1080p. 1440p and higher, negligible imho unless rocking a 4090.

So, I vote get a 5800X3D, if you're not using those cores for workloads as well.

The Single core performance/ ipc of 7600x is much higher than previous generation CPUs like the 5950x.
So, the 7600x is obviously faster, no surprise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgC4ua48CTI
Klapseninsasse Apr 19, 2023 @ 5:28am 
The 3900x was productivity wise a huge improvement to the 8700k back then. Sure no gain when it came to gaming, but for work it just runs through everything. Mainboard is the ASUS ROG Strix X570-E. I think productivity wise the 5950x would make an improvement.

The games are mostly the problem with my setup. I'm more of a sightseeing gamer so I go with high resolutions and the highest possible settings. Do you guys think it would make a good difference?
Komarimaru Apr 19, 2023 @ 5:35am 
Originally posted by 🦜Cloud Boy🦜:
Originally posted by Komarimaru:
I wouldn't say that.. Stock to Stock, they are equal. Overclocked slightly, the 5950X soars ahead due to more headroom to OC than the AM5 chips.

Better bet would be to get a 5800X3D, that has a chance at better FPS than a 5950X and 7950X lol

Heck, reason I haven't left my 5950X yet, is because with its OC, it equals a 7950X nearly, while running cooler to boot.

I'll prob update on next AMD/Intel generation, since the upgrade is so minor atm personally and need a CPU for work loads and gaming.

3900X vs 5950X, is like... 10-30 FPS, if you're rocking a 3090TI+ at 1080p. 1440p and higher, negligible imho unless rocking a 4090.

So, I vote get a 5800X3D, if you're not using those cores for workloads as well.

The Single core performance/ ipc of 7600x is much higher than previous generation CPUs like the 5950x.
So, the 7600x is obviously faster, no surprise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgC4ua48CTI
Uh, hate to break it to you, but no way is a 5950X running at 4.45Ghz, or as low as it shows in any of those tests. They all default to 4,975-5Ghz. That test is not legit.
_I_ Apr 19, 2023 @ 5:40am 
unless its running on a very poor cooler or hot case
or maybe a board that cant handle the cpu
Last edited by _I_; Apr 19, 2023 @ 5:41am
Komarimaru Apr 19, 2023 @ 6:22am 
Just to check, restarted, reset Bios to Default settings, just enabled XMP for 3600Hz on memory.

1080p
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2964426539

1440p
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2964426633

I don't really believe that video. And yes, I reinstalled HZD just to test.

Stance still stands. If ya not doing workloads, get a 5800X3D. If doing workloads as well as gaming, 5950X.
Last edited by Komarimaru; Apr 19, 2023 @ 7:03am
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xSOSxHawkens Apr 19, 2023 @ 8:19am 
First, to answer your question, yes.

Source: Someone who went from a 3900x (still own) to a 5950x (still using). I run on an x570 Unify for my main rig, and when upgraded I put the 3900x into a B550 extreme 4.

Both are great, but the 5950x is noticeably faster for games and for general use. The games were noticeable off the bat. The daily drive general use felt a tiny bit better from my perception, till I go back and use the 3900x and realize how much longer I wait for things to happen comparably (even basic windows things). The delay is unknowable, till you have been without it, then you go to the 3900x and notice that tiny bit longer windows take to open and load, etc. Not web-pages, but general explorer windows.

Both machines boot from identical Gen 4 m.2's and mine has physical storage (HDD) in it too where hers is only SSD (gen 4 and a gen 3 secondary) so if anything hers should be faster. Only real areas where the machine can feel slower is the CPU and the RAM, and we have swapped ram once for other reasons, so I know its just the 3900x thats the slower part.

*BUT* for your intended use case, games and higher FPS, I would look instead at the 5800x3D. It is the best AM4 socket game chip. And with the nice IPC uplift the 5800x will be roughly comparable to your 3900x in total CPU loading for things like video renders and such. But in games the 3d cache will result in much faster frame rates than either of the R9 chips. I have a friend who got into AM4 later than I did and he went 5600 to 5800x3d and his chip def out-games my 5950x. Though I can still stomp him in a video render lol.
Klapseninsasse Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:37pm 
Thank you very much for your detailed answer. I'm flipping a coin right now if more cores for big projects or more speed for games. One of those two I will get. And some faster RAM and a cheap MB for the 3900x.
xSOSxHawkens Apr 19, 2023 @ 2:06pm 
Though I will add that either 5K option will only offer an uplift in cases where the GPU is being held back by the CPU (for games). Otherwise the cpu change will have minimal if any impact.

If you play exclusively 4k you probably wont see a huge uplift.

If you plan 1440p you will probably see nice gains.

If you play high refresh 1080p you will see substantial gains.

No matter what the faster CPU choices will also keep up better with a next gen card without so much need to jump whole platforms. I use a 6900xt as well, and my 5800x3D buddy runs a 7900xtx, so def wanted that 3d cache for the frames haha.

And glad I was able to help!
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