4070 Opinions

[chickabumpbump]

So I finally got a new PC custom built.
Rog Strix B550
32gb of 3600 ram ( which caused the PC to have multiple BSOD issues on steam for some reason so its been dropped to 3400 )
Ryzen 7 5800X3D
An M2 and a SSD
and I still use my old 2060.

SO

Whats the opinion on the 4070, I see how its the new top card for 1440p games so im tempted to get it FOR Warhammer 3 as my main game

[Komarimaru]

Publicado originalmente por C1REX-PL:

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Where as, you can find great deals on 6800XT-6950XT even now, since so much stock left over.

I’ve heard it’s not an old stock but AMD is keep making 6950xt. Not sure if true and what’s their plan. Why would they do that instead of releasing 7800xt and 7700xt?

It's just stock that's been sitting. I doubt very heavily they'd waste so much money, to sell it for no profit as they are right now. All AIB's and AMD is doing right now, is trying to make the loss not so bad.

For example, my local Microcenter has been sitting on 6000 series for months.
6800XT 250+ in stock at store.
6900XT 2
6950XT 21
6750XT 71
6700XT 24
6600XT 0 (I mean, don't blame them, it's the 6600XT lol)

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Publicado originalmente por carl:

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-reportedly-cutting-supply-on-slow-selling-rtx-4070-gpu/

Are nvidia trying to avoid a glut of unsold stock or finding a way to keep the price at current level?

They will cut the prices on 4070 to combat that.
You can see this via Google Search: RTX 4070 price drops

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[wesnef]

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

6600XT 0 (I mean, don't blame them, it's the 6600XT lol)

Yeah - a good card at a good price, along with the 6650xt. They have none, because people have been buying them.


https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

Aside from the "Nvidia's better at raytracing" issue, the 6600xt is between the 3060 and 3060ti, and about level with the 2070 super. For $50-100 less than the 3060.

Not everyone is in the market for an Uber Card, just like not everyone is in the market for a Corvette. There's far too much focus on the 80 & 90 level cards these days, honestly. Regular users need those 60 level cards at reasonable prices.


(seeing articles call the 4070 a "budget" card at $600 is just insane)

[Komarimaru]

Publicado originalmente por wesnef:

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

6600XT 0 (I mean, don't blame them, it's the 6600XT lol)

Yeah - a good card at a good price, along with the 6650xt. They have none, because people have been buying them.


https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

Aside from the "Nvidia's better at raytracing" issue, the 6600xt is between the 3060 and 3060ti, and about level with the 2070 super. For $50-100 less than the 3060.

Not everyone is in the market for an Uber Card, just like not everyone is in the market for a Corvette. There's far too much focus on the 80 & 90 level cards these days, honestly. Regular users need those 60 level cards at reasonable prices.


(seeing articles call the 4070 a "budget" card at $600 is just insane)

That's not why they don't have any sadly. It's just because it's such a poor card, no matter the price of it. And with such a minor price difference between one and a 6700XT which is vastly superior, why bother stocking a 6600XT or buying one?

That's why they are sitting on 6800XT, and so many am told. Why pay for a 6800XT, when with heavy clearance prices, can get a 6900XT or 6950XT for a little more?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

6600 XT is on par FPS-wise with 3060 Ti @ 1080p and 1440p

6650 XT = 3060 Ti GDDR6X edition

I'm about to snag an Intel ARC A770 LE and run it through everything I can throw at it.
So far, now that the Drivers have matured, the reviews for it from around Feb 2023 and newer look like it's doing much better compared to back in anytime during 2022.

[Illusion of Progress]

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Why pay for a 6800XT, when with heavy clearance prices, can get a 6900XT or 6950XT for a little more?

As someone who's probably going with the 6800 XT, it's for a few reasons.

I'd rather spend a bit less. It seems to basically be a $100 added expense, give or take, which yeah that's actually good probably for what it gains you, but I'm already spending up a bit for the 6800 XT because my original consideration was more the 6700 XT.

Card size, power draw, and heat are also factors. I'm not sure my 750 W PSU would be good for it. And if I also have to change my PSU, that makes it far less attractive.

I'd be unlikely to justify the 6950 XT anyway, given I play at 1920 x 1200 and 60 Hz. At best I'd like to go to 1440p (and higher refresh) later, but I don't know when.

I will admit the 6950 XT somewhat grabbed my eye when the prices dropped recently (the 6900 XT was discontinued I thought?), and I actually thought "maybe", but everything considered, I decided against it because I'd rather spend less and get something not so wattage hungry. As it is, I'm actually hoping a 6800 XT won't be a problem due to the transient spikes.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Unless you have total crap of a PSU; then I don't see why you'd have to switch or upgrade that current 750W to use a 6800 XT. It's not nearly as power-hungry as 6950

I would again also go and compare the 6700 XT vs 6800 vs 6800 XT

You might find that the 6800 non-XT fits your needs and will save you a bit of $

If you generally use 1080p 16:9 or 21:9 a 6700 XT or 6800 non-XT would be good for that.

If you want to make the most of 1440p, then get the 6800 XT

[antoniobennett72]

Publicado originalmente por C1REX-PL:

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Where as, you can find great deals on 6800XT-6950XT even now, since so much stock left over.

I’ve heard it’s not an old stock but AMD is keep making 6950xt. Not sure if true and what’s their plan. Why would they do that instead of releasing 7800xt and 7700xt?

The difference between the 7900xt and the 6950xt is pretty small so it is probably only cosmetic to essentially relabel it as a 7800xt to justify a higher price so the consumer is probably better off.

Why they aren't going for the gouge? Too much wafer stock for the move to be worth the hassle while also potentially agitating an already testy consumer base when they already have a very limited marketshare?

[wesnef]

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

That's not why they don't have any sadly. It's just because it's such a poor card, no matter the price of it. And with such a minor price difference between one and a 6700XT which is vastly superior, why bother stocking a 6600XT or buying one?

Because I don't see $100 difference as "minor", when it's between $250 and $350?
And 31%/55W more power usage?

(yes, I just upgraded to an rx6650xt 2-3 months ago. From the rx570 I used for the previous 4 years. Spending $250 for a new GPU was annoying enough, the idea of 350+ is just a big nope. I'd never spent more than $175 for any of my previous 3 GPUs, so that was a big jump.)

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Not in the UK sadly ( I cant see anyway )

[AmaiAmai]

Publicado originalmente por Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

So this is awkward for RTX 4070, after weak since release, value drop ~$30, and today they're offering $100 Steam gift card, wonder what else be offer if people just stop buying, and wait bit longer lol, just imagine getting next flag ship game, plus $100, and lower priced card that be funny.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/12ucljb/micro_center_is_now_offering_a_100_steam_gift/

It's what happens when quartley reports are coming and these companies aren't moving hardware.

Microcenter really is the best place to buy hardware in the world IMO. They will do what is necessary for them to move products and get you inside.

That said, I am waiting for their CPU sale. I am holding a 25 dollars off 100 coupon ready for the sales. If their cPU + motherboard + RAM combination drops a bit more then I will likely buy it.

If only I can get a free CPU...hmm wait, maybe I can...

[r.linder]

Publicado originalmente por AmaiAmai:

Publicado originalmente por Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

So this is awkward for RTX 4070, after weak since release, value drop ~$30, and today they're offering $100 Steam gift card, wonder what else be offer if people just stop buying, and wait bit longer lol, just imagine getting next flag ship game, plus $100, and lower priced card that be funny.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/12ucljb/micro_center_is_now_offering_a_100_steam_gift/

It's what happens when quartley reports are coming and these companies aren't moving hardware.

Microcenter really is the best place to buy hardware in the world IMO. They will do what is necessary for them to move products and get you inside.

That said, I am waiting for their CPU sale. I am holding a 25 dollars off 100 coupon ready for the sales. If their cPU + motherboard + RAM combination drops a bit more then I will likely buy it.

If only I can get a free CPU...hmm wait, maybe I can...

In the world? No, just in the US, because it's solely American, other countries have their own outlet for electronics and components, Microcenter is unfortunately not that big of a company. Canada has Canada Computers, basically the same thing but not as cool.

[Illusion of Progress]

Publicado originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Unless you have total crap of a PSU; then I don't see why you'd have to switch or upgrade that current 750W to use a 6800 XT. It's not nearly as power-hungry as 6950

I would again also go and compare the 6700 XT vs 6800 vs 6800 XT

You might find that the 6800 non-XT fits your needs and will save you a bit of $

If you generally use 1080p 16:9 or 21:9 a 6700 XT or 6800 non-XT would be good for that.

If you want to make the most of 1440p, then get the 6800 XT

Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at.

I was originally looking at the 6700 XT, but then the 6800 XT being a pretty substantial performance jump and offering 25% more VRAM while still being not TOO expensive for what it was attracted me. Maybe I should give the non-XT a bit more of a look too though (but I'm still thinking I might want to go with the XT over it).

And I'm playing at 1200p now, but I might move to 1440p later. Obviously it's unknown when, but the possibility is there, so I'd rather get something a bit faster that, worst case scenario if I don't upgrade, has more performance and thus lasts longer. And even in the meantime, Minecraft with shaders can and will make use of that even at lower resolutions anyway.

PSU is an EVGA SuperNova 750 G5 (was G2, but when I did an RMA, EVGA sent a G5 as replacement).

[plat]

I just installed a low end ASUS rtx 4070 as my board is kind of on the lower end itself. I have 650 watt psu (EVGA Supernova G2 gold). The board is ASUS Prime Z390-A--bought at Micro Center just as the COVID pandemic was wreaking havoc on supply for hardware. They had almost nothing--a high end MSI board for 350 USD was a bit over my budget.

I don't want to install the ASUS "Tweak" software to mess with the fans--right now the fans aren't spinning b/c I guess it's not at the tipping point. It does run hotter than my 1080 by about 7-8 degrees with regular games and desktop browsing.

I see an improvement in YouTube videos where they're more in-depth--there's a more crystal-like clarity. But in gaming--nah! About the same but I play casual games, nothing strenuous.

So this was more of a replacement for a 7 year old gpu than an upgrade.