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chickabumpbump 18/abr./2023 às 9:43
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So I finally got a new PC custom built.
Rog Strix B550
32gb of 3600 ram ( which caused the PC to have multiple BSOD issues on steam for some reason so its been dropped to 3400 )
Ryzen 7 5800X3D
An M2 and a SSD
and I still use my old 2060.

SO

Whats the opinion on the 4070, I see how its the new top card for 1440p games so im tempted to get it FOR Warhammer 3 as my main game
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chickabumpbump 21/abr./2023 às 3:12 
Escrito originalmente por C1REX-PL:
Why do you guys compare to 6800xt when it’s a different price category?

3080 is basically sold out and remaining units are expensive.
4070 costs almost the same as 6950xt.

In the UK the 6800XT is around £570
6950XT is £700
4070 Is £590
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Illusion of Progress 21/abr./2023 às 3:17 
Escrito originalmente por C1REX-PL:
Why do you guys compare to 6800xt when it’s a different price category?

3080 is basically sold out and remaining units are expensive.
4070 costs almost the same as 6950xt.
I wasn't necessarily making a given comparison myself.

Someone else just stated the 6800 XT is evenly between the RTX 3070 and RTX 3080 in performance, and I commented on it as I felt it was a bit off.

But yeah, the RTX 3080 isn't relevant on the buying market anymore. But with the 6950 XT both being a bit more expensive than the RTX 4070, and namely being much more power hungry, the 6800 XT is still a relevant point for offering comparable rasterization performance to the RTX 4070, and is cheaper. It falls behind it a lot in ray tracing, of course, but then so does the 6950 XT.
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Bad 💀 Motha 21/abr./2023 às 3:18 
In USA 6800 is 450
6800 XT is 550
4070 is 599

However NVIDIA is already on-track to slow down the 4070 production as well as lower the pricing. The 4070 should drop 50-100 or so in the coming weeks
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chickabumpbump 21/abr./2023 às 3:18 
Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:
In USA 6800 is 450
6800 XT is 550
4070 is 599

However NVIDIA is already on-track to slow down the 4070 production as well as lower the pricing. The 4070 should drop 50-100 or so in the coming weeks

WHAT?! We get screwed in Europe!
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Illusion of Progress 21/abr./2023 às 3:22 
Escrito originalmente por chickabumpbump:
Escrito originalmente por C1REX-PL:
Why do you guys compare to 6800xt when it’s a different price category?

3080 is basically sold out and remaining units are expensive.
4070 costs almost the same as 6950xt.

In the UK the 6800XT is around £570
6950XT is £700
4070 Is £590
Yeah, this is something I noticed at least on Scan once. In the UK (not sure if this also means the resut of Europe?), the price disparity isn't the same, so it made me understand why those in the UK might lean towards nVidia.

At those prices I'd probably go with the RTX 4070 in general, unless I was sure ray tracing didn't matter at all and instead wanted the extra 4 GB VRAM, then I might go with the slightly cheaper 6800 XT. The 6800 XT and RTX 4070 are plus or minus-ish in rasterized performance, but the RTX 4070 will be far, far ahead in ray tracing.

In the US, the RTX 4070 is much more expensive than the RTX 4070, which as someone else said is close to the RX 6950 XT, which is quite a bit better in rasterized performance and has way more VRAM, but still falls behind in ray tracing and will use a LOT more power. That last part is what turned me off from considering it.

No idea why it's not that way for you. AMD products make less sense for those of you in the UK it seems.
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C1REX 21/abr./2023 às 3:23 
Escrito originalmente por chickabumpbump:
Escrito originalmente por C1REX-PL:
Why do you guys compare to 6800xt when it’s a different price category?

3080 is basically sold out and remaining units are expensive.
4070 costs almost the same as 6950xt.

In the UK the 6800XT is around £570
6950XT is £700
4070 Is £590
Amazon UK has 6950xt by XFX for £612 + delivery.
Newegg US has 6950XT for $629.

Close enough to be considered similar price in my opinion.
Última edição por C1REX; 21/abr./2023 às 3:24
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chickabumpbump 21/abr./2023 às 3:27 
Escrito originalmente por Illusion of Progress:
Escrito originalmente por chickabumpbump:

In the UK the 6800XT is around £570
6950XT is £700
4070 Is £590
Yeah, this is something I noticed at least on Scan once. In the UK (not sure if this also means the resut of Europe?), the price disparity isn't the same, so it made me understand why those in the UK might lean towards nVidia.

At those prices I'd probably go with the RTX 4070 in general, unless I was sure ray tracing didn't matter at all and instead wanted the extra 4 GB VRAM, then I might go with the slightly cheaper 6800 XT. The 6800 XT and RTX 4070 are plus or minus-ish in rasterized performance, but the RTX 4070 will be far, far ahead in ray tracing.

In the US, the RTX 4070 is much more expensive than the RTX 4070, which as someone else said is close to the RX 6950 XT, which is quite a bit better in rasterized performance and has way more VRAM, but still falls behind in ray tracing and will use a LOT more power. That last part is what turned me off from considering it.

No idea why it's not that way for you. AMD products make less sense for those of you in the UK it seems.

Its a PC used for PC only games so RTS, RPG's, Total warhammer, baldurs gate etc, I dont think raytracing will EVER be an issue if im honest.
When I played Dead space and Res 4 on my Xbox series X I favour framerate personally so I dont think raytracing is more than a gimmick from my own experience.
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Bad 💀 Motha 21/abr./2023 às 3:27 
Well all those shared comparison videos (as I don't have time to do it) please also look at difference between 6800 vs 6800 XT

6800 non-XT seems like a heck of a deal for 450 USD considering that is what most 3060 Ti go for
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Bad 💀 Motha 21/abr./2023 às 3:28 
Escrito originalmente por C1REX-PL:
Escrito originalmente por chickabumpbump:

In the UK the 6800XT is around £570
6950XT is £700
4070 Is £590
Amazon UK has 6950xt by XFX for £612 + delivery.
Newegg US has 6950XT for $629.

Close enough to be considered similar price in my opinion.

Amazon UK is not Europe
Amazon UK is strictly for Britain and Ireland. Outside of that, like say France or Germany... they definitely would pay like 50-100 more for the same GPU
Última edição por Bad 💀 Motha; 21/abr./2023 às 3:29
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chickabumpbump 21/abr./2023 às 3:28 
Jesus I need someone to buy me a card in America and ship it over lol much cheaper
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Bad 💀 Motha 21/abr./2023 às 3:30 
Escrito originalmente por chickabumpbump:
Jesus I need someone to buy me a card in America and ship it over lol much cheaper

It would cost me over 50$ to ship it and to have insurance coverage on it for over $500
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C1REX 21/abr./2023 às 3:34 
Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:
Escrito originalmente por C1REX-PL:
Amazon UK has 6950xt by XFX for £612 + delivery.
Newegg US has 6950XT for $629.

Close enough to be considered similar price in my opinion.

Amazon UK is not Europe
It’s not EU but it’s still in Europe. Similar to Switzerland.

4070 and 6950xt cost about €649 in Germany (mindfactory.de)
Última edição por C1REX; 21/abr./2023 às 3:36
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Komarimaru 21/abr./2023 às 3:54 
Ya, taxes, and fees are rough. It was literally cheaper for me to buy a 6590XT from Microcenter, and mail it to a friend in Australia. They got it way way worse down there, like... holy cow..

I still get asked when buying things, if it's for me or a "client". Just yesterday was pricing 4090's compared to online for UK, snagged one and got it shipped that morning. UK sites wanted 2099 quid for a certain model, I got it for $1900 USD total cost of taxes and shipping to save them like, 500 pounds.
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chickabumpbump 21/abr./2023 às 3:56 
Escrito originalmente por Komarimaru:
Ya, taxes, and fees are rough. It was literally cheaper for me to buy a 6590XT from Microcenter, and mail it to a friend in Australia. They got it way way worse down there, like... holy cow..

I still get asked when buying things, if it's for me or a "client". Just yesterday was pricing 4090's compared to online for UK, snagged one and got it shipped that morning. UK sites wanted 2099 quid for a certain model, I got it for $1900 USD total cost of taxes and shipping to save them like, 500 pounds.

Can you order me one haha, I work for the NHS say its for one of their PC's!
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C1REX 21/abr./2023 às 3:58 
Escrito originalmente por Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
Well yeah, it's same gpu lol, prices can range tiny bit from store to store. If 6800XT priced the same as 6950XT then it's a problem.

When one sees a problem, another sees an opportunity. :)
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