Jonathan 15/ago./2024 às 13:02
Xboxelite wiresless 2 controller worth it
im searching for a wireless controller for my pc, as i hAve a bluetooth adapter (have no intergrated bluetooth) and my old xbox one controller (2016) doesnt have bluetooth,

so is it worth spending 200 euro for a controller i use mainly for the yakuza games? as i like my own personilized controller with ofcours bluetooth
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Karumati 17/ago./2024 às 15:01 
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bought my xbox elite 2 3 years ago and it still works perfectly with zero drift.
without knowing how often you used it and for which games, it's hard to tell if your ínput even matters. no offense
i put over 1k hours in forza playing with it.
Corona Scurrae 17/ago./2024 às 15:06 
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without knowing how often you used it and for which games, it's hard to tell if your ínput even matters. no offense
i put over 1k hours in forza playing with it.
the deadzone value for xbox controllers by default is insanely high. once you play a game that allows you to modify it, you understand how terrible it is compared to the competition.

I have nearly 4k hours in rocket league and so far playstation and xbox 3rd party controllers have never disappointed me but official microsoft controllers failed 6x in less than 10 hours. not only do they fail stick tests in any software because they are incapable of doing a decent circle, setting the deadzone below 0.05 equals tokyo drift in a few hours.
Bad 💀 Motha 17/ago./2024 às 15:36 
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i put over 1k hours in forza playing with it.
the deadzone value for xbox controllers by default is insanely high. once you play a game that allows you to modify it, you understand how terrible it is compared to the competition.

I have nearly 4k hours in rocket league and so far playstation and xbox 3rd party controllers have never disappointed me but official microsoft controllers failed 6x in less than 10 hours. not only do they fail stick tests in any software because they are incapable of doing a decent circle, setting the deadzone below 0.05 equals tokyo drift in a few hours.

I've always felt they did that on purpose because it gives some breathing room for when the sticks start to wear a bit to where they don't jump back to center anymore. However that can often be addressed by taking the controller apart and cleaning it and lubing certain areas correctly. The brand makers generally don't want the end-user to take them apart though but no one can or should stop you from doing that.
I still think xBox controllers > Sony Playstation controllers because my Sony controller fell apart in my hands after only 3 years of use or so. :p

The xBox 360 corded 2010 model still holds the record of 10 years before the wire snapped within the cord, oh and I went through 3 third-party controllers which would last up to 1 year. :csdsmile::magic_wand::citizentears:

But the PS1 controllers I think were built much stronger - I know NES was pretty solid but my money is still with xBox manufacturing patents/materials plus at times you can buy the Official controllers for 50% off on the MS website. :csd2smile:

And if people were wondering where I bought the xBox Elite 2 for $80, that would be Best Buy (I think it was $80 could have been $120 though but still way less than that retail price which is a bit step but some materials on that Elite 2 are metal not plastic which is one of its strong suits). :yetuhappy:
Última edição por Phénomènes Mystiques; 17/ago./2024 às 16:59
MancSoulja 17/ago./2024 às 17:14 
I own about 8 or 10 "elite" controllers and The Xbox Elite V2 is the best and worst of them.

The build quality on the Elite V2 is just crap and you have more chance than not of receiving a broken controller out of the box.

That being said, if you get a fully working controller, it's the best controller on the market, hands down.
Última edição por MancSoulja; 17/ago./2024 às 17:14
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I own about 8 or 10 "elite" controllers and The Xbox Elite V2 is the best and worst of them.

The build quality on the Elite V2 is just crap and you have more chance than not of receiving a broken controller out of the box.

That being said, if you get a fully working controller, it's the best controller on the market, hands down.
I wonder if people are returning broken controllers and swapping them out in return after buying a new one - Walmart returns doesn't open boxes, especially if they looked sealed. :badluck:
Última edição por Phénomènes Mystiques; 17/ago./2024 às 17:19
PopinFRESH 17/ago./2024 às 18:54 
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i put over 1k hours in forza playing with it.
the deadzone value for xbox controllers by default is insanely high. once you play a game that allows you to modify it, you understand how terrible it is compared to the competition.

I have nearly 4k hours in rocket league and so far playstation and xbox 3rd party controllers have never disappointed me but official microsoft controllers failed 6x in less than 10 hours. not only do they fail stick tests in any software because they are incapable of doing a decent circle, setting the deadzone below 0.05 equals tokyo drift in a few hours.

^ This. I also have thousands of hours in rocket league, and I had an elite 2 when it first came out (the elite 2 not RL) and the left stick didn't even last 7 months before it started having stick drift. And by the 10 month mark it was completely useless. And the deadzone on it is atrocious by default for something like rocket league.

Replaced the elite 2 with an eSwap Pro X and it was good but the left stick died in about 2 months. The whole intention is to be able to easily swap them out; but I'm not going to continually swap out the left stick every 2 months for $30+ each. So it got replaced with the King Kong Pro 3 when the KKP3 initial availability went live in Q4 and it works flawlessly with no issues since. I have a KKP2 that I used for my Switch to replace my Switch Pro controller and it has also worked without issue. The dead zone set via calibration on my KKP3 is very small and now it is so much easier to do mechanics in RL like speed flips, etc.
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I had my xbox series x|s controller since it came out. And never had any stick drift at all. Now my son's did but I think that's because he got mad at fortnite and threw his controller on the floor. But he claims that doing that won't cause stick drift and I called him a liar. Being rough with it will cause stick drift. I also had a ps4 controller and that started drifting in a month from very light use. Will never buy that junk again. And it was an official ps4 controller.
I mean there are people reviewing controllers for a living and they generally agree that microsoft xbox controllers are dogwater and my experience only corroborated their findings like 6x until I gave up.

but the most damning evidence is xbox fans buying third party controllers...

Then i must got a very rare one that has 0 stick drift after 3 years. I might sell it for a few thousand dollars since you say they all stick drift after a few days. So by that my controller is ultra rare and very valuable.
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I mean there are people reviewing controllers for a living and they generally agree that microsoft xbox controllers are dogwater and my experience only corroborated their findings like 6x until I gave up.

but the most damning evidence is xbox fans buying third party controllers...

Then i must got a very rare one that has 0 stick drift after 3 years. I might sell it for a few thousand dollars since you say they all stick drift after a few days. So by that my controller is ultra rare and very valuable.
Mine also plus this older xBox One controller, I bet we could make a cool Maximilian. :csd2smile:
Corona Scurrae 18/ago./2024 às 4:15 
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Escrito originalmente por Outback Santa:
the deadzone value for xbox controllers by default is insanely high. once you play a game that allows you to modify it, you understand how terrible it is compared to the competition.

I have nearly 4k hours in rocket league and so far playstation and xbox 3rd party controllers have never disappointed me but official microsoft controllers failed 6x in less than 10 hours. not only do they fail stick tests in any software because they are incapable of doing a decent circle, setting the deadzone below 0.05 equals tokyo drift in a few hours.

I've always felt they did that on purpose because it gives some breathing room for when the sticks start to wear a bit to where they don't jump back to center anymore. However that can often be addressed by taking the controller apart and cleaning it and lubing certain areas correctly. The brand makers generally don't want the end-user to take them apart though but no one can or should stop you from doing that.
absolutely. well I can definitely take it apart and that's no problem, since I have done my fair share of tinkering but we are talking about new series controllers I picked up from the store and failed in two days. at that point I don't see any reason to fix it when I can return it and ask for replacement.

the employee from the store even admitted it himself that xbox controllers and nintendo joycons have high failure rate. they were kind enough to refund the controller.

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Escrito originalmente por Outback Santa:
the deadzone value for xbox controllers by default is insanely high. once you play a game that allows you to modify it, you understand how terrible it is compared to the competition.

I have nearly 4k hours in rocket league and so far playstation and xbox 3rd party controllers have never disappointed me but official microsoft controllers failed 6x in less than 10 hours. not only do they fail stick tests in any software because they are incapable of doing a decent circle, setting the deadzone below 0.05 equals tokyo drift in a few hours.

^ This. I also have thousands of hours in rocket league, and I had an elite 2 when it first came out (the elite 2 not RL) and the left stick didn't even last 7 months before it started having stick drift. And by the 10 month mark it was completely useless. And the deadzone on it is atrocious by default for something like rocket league.

Replaced the elite 2 with an eSwap Pro X and it was good but the left stick died in about 2 months. The whole intention is to be able to easily swap them out; but I'm not going to continually swap out the left stick every 2 months for $30+ each. So it got replaced with the King Kong Pro 3 when the KKP3 initial availability went live in Q4 and it works flawlessly with no issues since. I have a KKP2 that I used for my Switch to replace my Switch Pro controller and it has also worked without issue. The dead zone set via calibration on my KKP3 is very small and now it is so much easier to do mechanics in RL like speed flips, etc.
honestly thank you bro because people in this discussion think I'm intentionally bashing xbox and microsoft.

happy your kkp3 controller works well and in rocket league it's an absolute necessity to have a decent controller that lasts.

have a nice day mate and good luck in ranked or solo q!
Jonathan 18/ago./2024 às 4:19 
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I've always felt they did that on purpose because it gives some breathing room for when the sticks start to wear a bit to where they don't jump back to center anymore. However that can often be addressed by taking the controller apart and cleaning it and lubing certain areas correctly. The brand makers generally don't want the end-user to take them apart though but no one can or should stop you from doing that.
absolutely. well I can definitely take it apart and that's no problem, since I have done my fair share of tinkering but we are talking about new series controllers I picked up from the store and failed in two days. at that point I don't see any reason to fix it when I can return it and ask for replacement.

the employee from the store even admitted it himself that xbox controllers and nintendo joycons have high failure rate. they were kind enough to refund the controller.

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^ This. I also have thousands of hours in rocket league, and I had an elite 2 when it first came out (the elite 2 not RL) and the left stick didn't even last 7 months before it started having stick drift. And by the 10 month mark it was completely useless. And the deadzone on it is atrocious by default for something like rocket league.

Replaced the elite 2 with an eSwap Pro X and it was good but the left stick died in about 2 months. The whole intention is to be able to easily swap them out; but I'm not going to continually swap out the left stick every 2 months for $30+ each. So it got replaced with the King Kong Pro 3 when the KKP3 initial availability went live in Q4 and it works flawlessly with no issues since. I have a KKP2 that I used for my Switch to replace my Switch Pro controller and it has also worked without issue. The dead zone set via calibration on my KKP3 is very small and now it is so much easier to do mechanics in RL like speed flips, etc.
honestly thank you bro because people in this discussion think I'm intentionally bashing xbox and microsoft.

happy your kkp3 controller works well and in rocket league it's an absolute necessity to have a decent controller that lasts.

have a nice day mate and good luck in ranked or solo q!
glad i dont play rocketleague (or not much), but im not using a controller for rl anyways so thats not a problem i have to consider
Corona Scurrae 18/ago./2024 às 4:22 
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absolutely. well I can definitely take it apart and that's no problem, since I have done my fair share of tinkering but we are talking about new series controllers I picked up from the store and failed in two days. at that point I don't see any reason to fix it when I can return it and ask for replacement.

the employee from the store even admitted it himself that xbox controllers and nintendo joycons have high failure rate. they were kind enough to refund the controller.


honestly thank you bro because people in this discussion think I'm intentionally bashing xbox and microsoft.

happy your kkp3 controller works well and in rocket league it's an absolute necessity to have a decent controller that lasts.

have a nice day mate and good luck in ranked or solo q!
glad i dont play rocketleague (or not much), but im not using a controller for rl anyways so thats not a problem i have to consider
if you learned to play rocket league with kbm then you are obviously much smarter than me haha
Bad 💀 Motha 18/ago./2024 às 4:38 
Yea I swore by the 360 wireless controller and dongle. But those faded and all the Xbox One controllers are terrible compared to DS4 and DS5. So I grabbed an 8BitDo Wireless Ultimate bundled with a Type-C cradle charger and it's been great. Non-drift-Sticks and it comes with a usb 2.4ghz wireless dongle for it and can work via BT (has a 2.4ghz vs BT switch on the back). I could never go back to anything Microsoft at this point. Easily compatible with Win10/11, Steam Deck, Nintendo Switch and also Phones/Tablets
Última edição por Bad 💀 Motha; 18/ago./2024 às 4:40
The one thing everyone needs to remember is to tolerate other people's opinions as everyone has varying but valid experiences both good and bad. :csd2smile:
Tonepoet 18/ago./2024 às 4:57 
I don't really think so, if you're thinking about using it as a P.C. gamepad. The Crkd Neo S[crkd.gg]. has swappable thumbsticks, a couple of back buttons, Hall Effect thumbsticks and adjustable trigger sensitivity and a nice looking directional pad, but it only costs $50, and you even have a $5 off coupon on Amazon.[www.amazon.com]

The only reason Microsoft started making Elite controllers and charging so much for them in the first place is likely because they saw what Scuff was doing to their controllers, and wanted that money all to themselves.

If they were smart, they would've done what Sony did with the Dualshock and just make the new features part of the default controller.

Even if you're on xbox, there's the Gamesir G7[www.gamesir.hk] as another alternative to a controller with back buttons. The fit 'n finish isn't as good as Microsoft's but you can buy that for $45 at the moment too[www.newegg.com]. Heck, for the price of one xbox elite controller, I mean it's wireless, but it does go to show that Microsoft doesn't have to charge an arm and a leg.

The regular red xbox controller is $45 too right now.[www.amazon.com] For $180 you could can almost buy four xbox controllers to have a party.

What costs Microsoft so much to make it? Nothing but greed I'm sure. The Scuff folk had the excuse that they had to buy an original xbox controller then put in the manual labor to modify it. Microsoft has the benefit of their own factories. I was anticipating and even hoping that Microsoft might make back button controllers, but I was expecting them to do it at a substantially cheaper price.

Also, let's be frank here. As nice as that rubberized grip probably looks and feels now, it's going to be a gooey mess come 10 or 15 years from now, and if you're spending that much on a controller, you kind of want it to last you for life.

If anybody does want to buy an xbox elite series 2 controller though, I noticed a deal for them on Woot[electronics.woot.com] for 31% off of M.S.R.P., putting it at $120.

But even $120 is too rich for my blood. I'd probably want M.S.R.P. to be $80 at most for what they've done, and then probably just buy it on sale for 50% off anyway.
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