Laptop advice? ( switching from desktop?)

[deuceyd]

Thinking about selling my desktops and switching to a gaming laptop, something high end. I'm just skeptical about the life span and performance of the things, in my mind I've always thought 2 years tops, which if true is a no-go for me.

Also I know NOTHING about laptops, brands, what's quality and what's trash. Being desktop guy last 15 years I just know intel good, nvidia good.

My current rig is i9 13900kf, rtx 4090, 32gb ddr5, 1tb m.2 and Yada Yada.

Please educate me on how your experience has been with gaming laptops, and lemme know the highest quality ones on the market now.

[HypersleepyNaputunia]

i havent seen any laptops with more than 1 year warranty so be careful its risky

[deuceyd]

So the 1-2 yr lifespan accurate assessment huh?

[Electric Cupcake]

Good quality laptops cost a pretty penny. Don't expect to pay less than $1500.

You want the best SKU available, since most aren't upgradable. An easily replaceable battery is a good idea if you want to keep using it for more than 3-4 years.

I preordered a Framework 16 and expecting it soon. That's an enlightened paradigm that deserves support.

Before deciding on Framework, I was also looking at Xoticpc's Sagers. They're good quality. Even if they're mostly only Nvidia.

[pasa]

Well, bright idea, enjoy half performance at double price with noise, reduced lifetime and other things. What was the motivation again?

[Mr White]

Am looking to due to space. The downside for me is Drivers I don't like the idea were the manufacturers lock the drivers and then refuse to update them. But won't let you do it. A good example is HP can't download form Intel or AMD/Nivida but they don't update them

[deuceyd]

Why am I getting clown awards I'm not trolling I was asking legit questions. Laptop situation really that bad? I've got friends that play on them, hook them up to monitors and use them like desktops as well and they don't have issues.

[Thermal Lance]

deuceyd님이 먼저 게시:

Why am I getting clown awards I'm not trolling I was asking legit questions. Laptop situation really that bad? I've got friends that play on them, hook them up to monitors and use them like desktops as well and they don't have issues.

No worries dude. They are giving you free points. Rest don't matter. :)

[deuceyd]

smallcat님이 먼저 게시:

Bro you must rush to your doctor ! Laptop for gaming that s pain

even on the high end laptops?

[Thermal Lance]

deuceyd님이 먼저 게시:

smallcat님이 먼저 게시:

Bro you must rush to your doctor ! Laptop for gaming that s pain

even on the high end laptops?

Gaming laptop runs HOT. They virtually all do. Which reduces the lifespan of the part.

It's not a problem for me since I mostly retrogame anyway. Doom ain't going to have the fans spinning much.

But, if you are a gamer, like, a GAMER. One that play high end titles for a few hours. It wont last you as much as a good desktop PC.

[Kobs]

Just read the forum, peoples with "gaming laptops" always have problems with heat, you know why? Gaming is hard on components and they heat up, heating up doesn't like confined squeezed together environment. The better your laptop is, the more it will heat up when you game with it... The only good laptop for gaming should be made out of aluminium with millions of tiny holes in it... but there's a keyboard on top where the heat usually go and you can't do anything for that. Final word is, laptops weren't made for gaming period.

[Electric Cupcake]

TDP is only a real problem with the 'cult of thin.'

Good high power laptops almost always have weight mentioned as a con in reviews, but barely fitting in a SwissGear backpack and heavy enough to make you adjust your shoulder straps like you're an outdoorsy backpacker is a positive thing. They get hot and the fans rev up like jet engines, but a good laptop can handle it, with or without a USB powered active cooling pad.

[pasa]

deuceyd님이 먼저 게시:

Why am I getting clown awards I'm not trolling I was asking legit questions. Laptop situation really that bad? I've got friends that play on them, hook them up to monitors and use them like desktops as well and they don't have issues.

Consider yourself. Look at your current box. It easily pumps 600W. Look at the cooler on the cpu and gpu, its area, surface, weight. Look how many fans you have and what is their area tohether.

Now, in the laptop all that is supposed to be handled by 2 maybe 8 cm fans you can barely see, no sink worth speaking about and the total air volume also.

[A&A]

Yes, my laptop didn't stop burning the bios chip, but this is only one of the 8 I have used.

It depends on what you're going to use it for. Low-mid range laptops are at an ok price and Ryzens are mostly good if you have a job that requires more processor power than video card. Probably you can get something with RTX3050 for cheap. But it's not worth getting high end gaming laptop.

https://youtu.be/rcFOaNsT11w?si=WUNSqjcnu9Hg1EbX

[AmaiAmai]

My brother has an expensive gaming laptop and barely uses it vs. his "mid tier" laptop with a 2060.

Want to know why? The more expensive one sounds like a jet. But the more important issue is that he doesn't care about maxing games and hasn't bought any recent games because they suck.

If that sounds like you, then maybe rethink how you will spend your money on a HOBBY. Computer hardware loses value relatively quickly, especially laptops.

If you go high end, better have more than one NVME, better have enough USB ports (in case one shorts when you inevitably stress the hell out of the battery), good screen at 100% sRGB MINIMUM, etc.

Failure to do that will be a very bad experience in the laptop space, as storage, RAM, and connectivity are the most important things besides the GPU and CPU, and a lack of storage will be a problem sooner rather than later.

Also with the prices of SSDs rising, not getting 2TB or 4TB on an expensive laptop could reduce it's value tremendously.

[N3tRunn3r]

You just missed Lenovo Legion's headstart sales with their brand new Gen 9 models and so decreased prices.

I got a:

Legion Pro 7i 16 Gen 9

i9-14900HX
RTX 4090
2x 16 GB DDR5 5600 MHz
2x 1 TB NVMe M2. SSDs
16'' 100% DCI-P3 IPS, 240 Hz, etc
..for 3200 EUR factory new. You now would pay for that model 4000 EUR ..

just check my Steam Profile and you find all that stuff ..

That RTX 4090 Mobile is as strong as a RTX 3090 desktop variant or as the 4070 S..

Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9 is the best gaming laptop ever ..
Robust, very high quality, no issues ..

For some games you need to undervolt and underclock the 14900HX though, or it would overheat and throttle .. I found a mix between undervolting and underclocking, from 5.8 GHz to 5 GHz .. you can easily do that through Lenovo Vantage and perfectly adjust settings as well as with HWiNFO's help .. !! So CPU temperatures wont reach 90°C (Conan Exiles) .. and your fans run 1 - 2 levels lower !! You can all the time enable and disable your undervolt and underclock settings through Lenovo Vantage by a simple click, if needed.

The RTX 4090 GPU always stays below ~65°C (yet) as the Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9 ADDITIONALLY includes liquid metal cooling. Tested by playing Conan Exiles on Ultra settings for an hour or two ..

I highly recommend an IPS screen, as IPS screens are high-end stuff. These screens are heavily sharp as intended, while these new Mini-LED screens are blurry and cause artifacts due to its technology.. this crap is highly disturbing ..

I had tested a bunch of gaming laptops of various brands for past 2 years, and ANY of these were cheaply produced and manufactured. Missing features, too much of RBG circus BS ..

Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 9 = Best of the Best !! HIGHEST QUALITY !!

It has instantly exchanged my older and loyal laptop ..

Also it was important for me to have a NumPad, and keyboard backlight auto-off's. All these other brands do either have keyboard lights permanently ON or OFF, which sux.. !!

Additionally, Lenovo Legion is highly compatible to Microsoft Windows 11 as these both work closely together. It instantly finds all neccessary updates. After a fresh and clean install all you need to manually install are the WLAN/WiFI drivers, if you are not wired. That is all .. Epic stuff !! No "forced" updates .. you are free whatever you like to do ..

There are Lenovo Legion Pro 9i Gen 9 models, but i do not recommend it as you pay 1000 EUR more just for a carbon case instead aluminium and it has more blink blink circus BS .. as well as that crappy Mini-LED.

Also the Pro 9i models are harder to switch hardware as you need to disassemble that whole thing. The Pro 7i is way easier. You can exchange all hardware except CPU and GPU, as usually .. just by removing the backplate of the aluminium case.

Gaming Laptops hold longer than 5 years.. dont worry .. just take care of them and use laptops on stable flat surfaces ONLY .. !! Remove dust and clean hardware twice a year .. Undervolt and underlock your CPU, if neccessary and as mentioned above ..

Lenovo Legion supports warranty of MINIMUM 2 years which is generally included. You can even extend its warranty by paying a few bucks more ..

Also I been this lucky and their promised 99.9 Wh battery was a 105 Wh !!!

I am ultra happy !! It is an absolute masterpiece !!

Legion Pro 7i 16 Gen 9 is the way to go !! On their shop site you can even select parts for your own customized lappy .. which then might cost approx ~150 EUR more for your own customization.

Ps:
The Intel 14th Gen is the last generation of mega power. The result of 20 years research, as it has just reached max performance..

The next CPU generations for next years are built completely from scratch. New technologies, built for better power efficiency, with less cores and less power ...

Intel are also rebranding their names. These "NEXT GENERATION" CPUs which are built from scratch are called "Ultra" Cores ..

Intel Ultra Cores replace their current and soon obsolete branch:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/processors/core-ultra.html

Good Luck & Have fun !!