My pc is lagging, but its really weird

[Walther Black]

I just uograded my Gpu to rx 580 (the old one is like a gpu from the proccesor so its like intel smth smth) paired with i5 3470 i thinm it was good enough, but when i played games like 7 Days to die, Warzone, Sniper Elite, Fallout 4, and some low end games. but i noticed something, after i upgraded every games, the fps went down from 40-50 before upgrade to max 30fpsish after my upgrade, its confusing but isnt upgrade supposed to enhance the fps? can someone help whats going on?

[Tonepoet]

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alright, now that i know what to replace, (which is the cpu, and mobo), but i already have a 550w psu isnt that enough tho?? do you guys have a cheap options?? for the cpu and mobo?

It's the worst time to be upgrading. last week A.M.D. announced new processors and motherboards for next month at computex. Those'll shake up the going rates. Even if you don't plan on buying a Ryzen 9000 series processor, the market will be flooded with used components from the upgraders and everything'll flow downstream. I strongly recommend waiting until the new components are released, or maybe even a week or so after to give everybody some time to change out their parts.

It's not a given that you can reuse your P.S.U. or case. If you bought a prebuilt, the parts might not conform to ATX specification standards. Dell and Hewlett Packard are particularly notorious for this. You're also probably going to need new R.A.M. An i5 3000 series processor is going to use D.D.R. 3 R.A.M. Any modern system is going to use either D.D.R. 4 or D.D.R. 5.

Also, whether or not you current power supply will be enough depends on the totality of your build. We can't do that

If you were to upgrade right now, I would recommend buying the following components:

Ryzen 5500[www.amazon.com]
Asrock B450M HDV Rev. 4.0[www.amazon.com]
TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z DDR4 16GB[www.amazon.com]

Total cost of those parts is $165 based on U.S. amazon pricing. They're some of the cheapest components in their class that you can buy brand new. Should be enough for an RX 580 though. You have to remember the RX 580 is a 7 year old model, so its fallen down the tiers a bit.

If you need to replace the case and P.S.U. though, that can increase the anticipated cost of the upgrade by $90. Might be more economical for you to buy a used P.C. in that case. Still though, let's go forward with those items for now.

The T.D.P. of the Ryzen 5500 is 65 watts.
The RX 580 has a T.D.P. of 185 watts, and the recommended minimum P.S.U. rating is 4500 watts. Combined those components should only be expected to draw 245 watts, leaving you 255 watts of overhead to run the rest of the system. You might expect the motherboard to use 45 watts, and the rest of the components significantly less.

Assuming those parts, a 550 watts should be enough in terms of power rating.

Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

7d2d min req is 2.8ghz quad

Eeh, the i5 3470 is a 3.6 gigahertz quad core processor so it technically beats that. I know it's not your fault that 7 Days to Die 2's requirements are poorly specified, but clock speed alone is a pretty bad metric to be using, unless you're comparing processors within the same family. How efficiently a processor uses its clock cycles can change things drastically...

[_I_]

ghz is not ghz
thats the freq, but not performance
thats where ipc comes in, instructions (performance) per clock

8ghz on amd fx is slower than 3ghz on 12th gen intel

[Agent]

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ghz is not ghz
thats the freq, but not performance
thats where ipc comes in, instructions (performance) per clock

8ghz on amd fx is slower than 3ghz on 12th gen intel

Yeah modern CPU's have far better designed architectures and much higher cache sizes which will help in games. Clock speed is only one metric. It's like talking about a vehicles horsepower without accounting for the weight.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Wipe out your Chipset and GPU drivers and reboot and then install these fresh, reboot once more. Then configure NVIDIA CONTROL PANEL.

Wipe GPU Shader Cache
%localappdata% > NVIDIA

Delete config files that hold graphics settings for your various games. They will get re-created fresh again next time you launch the game. Then configure the graphics and exit said game to save new file.

For a game like Fallout make sure to disable weapons debris

[_I_]

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Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

ghz is not ghz
thats the freq, but not performance
thats where ipc comes in, instructions (performance) per clock

8ghz on amd fx is slower than 3ghz on 12th gen intel

Yeah modern CPU's have far better designed architectures and much higher cache sizes which will help in games. Clock speed is only one metric. It's like talking about a vehicles horsepower without accounting for the weight.

more like just engine rpm, no spec on horsepower torque or transmission specs

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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Първоначално публикувано от _I_:

ghz is not ghz
thats the freq, but not performance
thats where ipc comes in, instructions (performance) per clock

8ghz on amd fx is slower than 3ghz on 12th gen intel

Yeah modern CPU's have far better designed architectures and much higher cache sizes which will help in games. Clock speed is only one metric. It's like talking about a vehicles horsepower without accounting for the weight.

And over there sits my 4790K build which has no problems running any game.

[Agent]

Първоначално публикувано от Bad 💀 Motha:

Първоначално публикувано от Stacked:

Yeah modern CPU's have far better designed architectures and much higher cache sizes which will help in games. Clock speed is only one metric. It's like talking about a vehicles horsepower without accounting for the weight.

And over there sits my 4790K build which has no problems running any game.

Ok boot up Bannerlord with 1000 units then. Manor lords with 1000 workers. Show a graph of your average frame rate, 1% and 0.1% lows.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

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Първоначално публикувано от Bad 💀 Motha:

And over there sits my 4790K build which has no problems running any game.

Ok boot up Bannerlord with 1000 units then. Manor lords with 1000 workers. Show a graph of your average frame rate, 1% and 0.1% lows.

Well for most games anyways. Yes I know it's not great for very cpu intense games but still. Runs very well paired with RTX 3080 and 32GB RAM, debloated Win10