Suggest antivirus software to defeat windows defender?

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main requirement for it would be that it does nothing, does not use RAM and lets windows defender think that there is AV installed.

[Trout]

Escrito originalmente por Crawl:

I'd be curious to know other peoples experiences. If you don't visit sketchy sites or pirate games/software when was the last time you actually had your antivirus flag a legitimate threat? It's been so long for me that I couldn't even tell you, many many years for sure.

it's been a very, very long time. back when i was still using windows only executables i downloaded off github were flagged, and those were false positives because they weren't signed

[Bad 💀 Motha]

You don't even need to have Defender flag those EXE anymore; Firefox and Chrome are pretty good at doing this on their own; they are labeled as "unverified" and thus you have to click to accept the file at your own risk.

[The_Abortionator]

Escrito originalmente por HIS DIVINE SHADOW:

Escrito originalmente por The_Abortionator:

First off, do no ride the net and download things without an AV. You literally NEED ONE on Windows. PERIOD. No amount of "Im SmArT i DoNt NeEd An aNtIvIrUs!" will erase that fact, theres simply WAY too many attack vectors to not protect your self.

Windows Defender has gone from a joke to being on the upper echelon of AV programs.

Yes Microsoft messes up just about everything and Defender isn't perfect but it actually is better than the rest as it doesn't bombard you with adds and ruin your disk performance randomly.

You also need Defender to use the MS Store and Xbox apps. Period.

Why on earth are you trying to disable it?

stop talking like this man, say how it is - YOU need me to have AV, so that viruses don't spread to you.
i don't care about you though.

What are you on about?

How would you spread a virus to me?

You're the one whose computer is at risk not mine, I don't even use Windows dude.

This is some weird nonsensical ad hom you are throwing around kid.

[Guydodge]

i use webroot and have for about 10 years now never had a virus neither has the wife
you can use it with defender or without the wife uses both i use webroot only.pc viruses
arent what they use to be.these people want access to your phone not your pc.i use webroot
because its been extremely reliable over the years.but is it necessary with defender maybe not but if it aint broke dont fix it.it has warned me 4 or 5 times over the years and locked out a few files for me to delete/refuse installation that it red flagged

just remember if you do ever run into something DONT click around trying to close it do a hard reset and you shouldnt have any issues.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Escrito originalmente por Guydodge:

i use webroot and have for about 10 years now never had a virus neither has the wife
you can use it with defender or without the wife uses both i use webroot only.pc viruses
arent what they use to be.these people want access to your phone not your pc.i use webroot
because its been extremely reliable over the years.but is it necessary with defender maybe not but if it aint broke dont fix it.it has warned me 4 or 5 times over the years and locked out a few files for me to delete/refuse installation that it red flagged

just remember if you do ever run into something DONT click around trying to close it do a hard reset and you shouldnt have any issues.

How do you NOT use Defender?
While you can disable most of it, you can't disable all of it. All one can really do is lighten the load that Defender could put on the system for the most part.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Escrito originalmente por Guydodge:

i use webroot and have for about 10 years now never had a virus neither has the wife
you can use it with defender or without the wife uses both i use webroot only.pc viruses
arent what they use to be.these people want access to your phone not your pc.i use webroot
because its been extremely reliable over the years.but is it necessary with defender maybe not but if it aint broke dont fix it.it has warned me 4 or 5 times over the years and locked out a few files for me to delete/refuse installation that it red flagged

just remember if you do ever run into something DONT click around trying to close it do a hard reset and you shouldnt have any issues.

How do you NOT use Defender?
While you can disable most of it, you can't disable all of it. All one can really do is lighten the load that Defender could put on the system for the most part.

You cant disable it fully ANYMORE to be exact, you used to be able to with Shutup10, but then Microsoft changed some things so i dont think it can be anymore. Mine is still disabled from back then, thankfully.

With that said
The most Minimalist AV program that turns it off would be iobit's Malware Fighter, it doesnt even need to be running from what i recall, but yeah.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Escrito originalmente por ☥ - CJ -:

Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

How do you NOT use Defender?
While you can disable most of it, you can't disable all of it. All one can really do is lighten the load that Defender could put on the system for the most part.

You cant disable it fully ANYMORE to be exact, you used to be able to with Shutup10, but then Microsoft changed some things so i dont think it can be anymore. Mine is still disabled from back then, thankfully.

With that said
The most Minimalist AV program that turns it off would be iobit's Malware Fighter, it doesnt even need to be running from what i recall, but yeah.

You can disable everything it does, you can't disable the Security Panel for it or various notification it has. Everything else can be disabled via Group Policy. I've done it many times no problems.

ShutUp10 doesn't do it because it lacks options for that.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Escrito originalmente por ☥ - CJ -:

You cant disable it fully ANYMORE to be exact, you used to be able to with Shutup10, but then Microsoft changed some things so i dont think it can be anymore. Mine is still disabled from back then, thankfully.

With that said
The most Minimalist AV program that turns it off would be iobit's Malware Fighter, it doesnt even need to be running from what i recall, but yeah.

You can disable everything it does, you can't disable the Security Panel for it or various notification it has. Everything else can be disabled via Group Policy. I've done it many times no problems.

ShutUp10 doesn't do it because it lacks options for that.

As i said lol
It USED to, back before Microsoft changed things a few years back, and im referring to Home Win10, not Pro.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Screw Home, just use Pro, doesn't matter if you have a key or not.
Then use Group Policy Editor.
I still have Defender disabled even after this months Windows Updates; no problems. However it just runs the Security app in the background still, which is fine, it's not tying up crucial resources.

[mtono]

Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Screw Home, just use Pro, doesn't matter if you have a key or not.
Then use Group Policy Editor.
I still have Defender disabled even after this months Windows Updates; no problems. However it just runs the Security app in the background still, which is fine, it's not tying up crucial resources.

sorry! as far as i know the only difference from home to pro version of windows is bitlocker(data encryption software incl in windows)
i would be happy, if you tell, what i didnt get yet. can one help me out?
thx in advance.

[Quint]

Escrito originalmente por tyraNT:

Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Screw Home, just use Pro, doesn't matter if you have a key or not.
Then use Group Policy Editor.
I still have Defender disabled even after this months Windows Updates; no problems. However it just runs the Security app in the background still, which is fine, it's not tying up crucial resources.

sorry! as far as i know the only difference from home to pro version of windows is bitlocker(data encryption software incl in windows)
i would be happy, if you tell, what i didnt get yet. can one help me out?
thx in advance.

Group Policy editor and other similar administrator tools.

[mtono]

a "group policy editor". i dont know it really, but group policy is necessary for multi-user pc's. the btlocker changes everything...windows has to handle encrypted data. i dont think that is that easy. so other software, like the group policy editor, may have to change. this is complex. i am a little drunk. pardon me, if i am wrong. if you feel bad about my posting...ignore it. idont want to be offensive. i am drunk...sry.
what do you say^^
♥♥

[Iron Knights]

Win 10 and above is a maze of interconnected functions and while I managed to give mine a broken toe, it is tied to the entire functionality of MS "Who's Computer Is It Anyways ?".
Installing something on top of it will not disable it. This is not Win 7, welcome to the NWO of Computing.

[mtono]

i have no fear and i dont understand paeople, that avoid using windows.
i quit the discussion.
hf
♥♥

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Escrito originalmente por tyraNT:

Escrito originalmente por Bad 💀 Motha:

Screw Home, just use Pro, doesn't matter if you have a key or not.
Then use Group Policy Editor.
I still have Defender disabled even after this months Windows Updates; no problems. However it just runs the Security app in the background still, which is fine, it's not tying up crucial resources.

sorry! as far as i know the only difference from home to pro version of windows is bitlocker(data encryption software incl in windows)
i would be happy, if you tell, what i didnt get yet. can one help me out?
thx in advance.

Home doesn't have Group Policy Editor; that's one of the reasons to just use Win10/11 PRO