Suggest antivirus software to defeat windows defender?

[76561198836691314]

main requirement for it would be that it does nothing, does not use RAM and lets windows defender think that there is AV installed.

[Quint]

Why not disable Win defender?

[76561198836691314]

Originally posted by Quint:

Why not disable Win defender?

some software is dependent on it. yes i know it is absurd, but i checked.
i am going to reinstall windows, because defender can't be restored. then i will need something to plug it with....

[The_Abortionator]

First off, do no ride the net and download things without an AV. You literally NEED ONE on Windows. PERIOD. No amount of "Im SmArT i DoNt NeEd An aNtIvIrUs!" will erase that fact, theres simply WAY too many attack vectors to not protect your self.

Windows Defender has gone from a joke to being on the upper echelon of AV programs.

Yes Microsoft messes up just about everything and Defender isn't perfect but it actually is better than the rest as it doesn't bombard you with adds and ruin your disk performance randomly.

You also need Defender to use the MS Store and Xbox apps. Period.

Why on earth are you trying to disable it?

[Quint]

Abortinator is right. Disabling the Defender will also disable your firewall which is a terrible idea if your device is connected to the net.

https://youtu.be/6uSVVCmOH5w

This video is a great example of what an OS can go through if all security features involving the internet are disabled. Obviously your computer is not WinXP. I hope. But assuming it's Win10 you'll be in a trouble that more closely resembles that is present in the video I linked.

Win10 reaches it's end of support next year. When that happens security updates stop incoming and when that happens the situation in the linked video gets closer to reality each passing day.

If you are doing this in order to save up resources, go find something else to save on. Because this ain't it.

[Crawl]

These days I doubt many people are connecting directly to the internet. Unless you are DMZing your pc the NAT firewall on your gateway is good enough for most.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by HIS DIVINE SHADOW:

Originally posted by Quint:

Why not disable Win defender?

some software is dependent on it. yes i know it is absurd, but i checked.
i am going to reinstall windows, because defender can't be restored. then i will need something to plug it with....

While the Defender Security stuff will still appear to run in the background; it can be fully disable. You can use GPE to fully disable Defender, it's real-time scanning along with SmartScreen. However you also need to disable or remove Edge browser as well because Defender + Edge both use Smart-Screen.

I had no issues disabling all 3 on Win10 & 11 quite easily.

The only announce is every once in a while (maybe once a week) Defender will popup with a security notice, because it can see that your GPE edits are causing the security to not work and because of this, it assumes that was done by malicious 3rd party software. However you can simply bring that up and click to Ignore/Allow the so called "found threat"


If you want something good; get ESET NOD32
Or get MalwareBytes Premium + AdGuard

[AmaiAmai]

If you use the "advanced security features" in Windows, know that when you add another antivirus it may lower your system's performance. That's because as long as those are enabled, then you essentially have another AV running at the same time.

Also, some antivirus programs do not work well with the core isolation feature in Windows and may cause cryptic errors when running software.

Just two things to keep in mind if you find a game or app you can't run and never find the issue, it is one more thing to check.

[Tonepoet]

There is no solution that won't use at least a tiny bit of R.A.M.

[Omega]

Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Keep using Windows Defender, it is the least ♥♥♥♥♥♥ AV available right now.

[lailaamell]

Originally posted by The_Abortionator:

First off, do no ride the net and download things without an AV. You literally NEED ONE on Windows. PERIOD. No amount of "Im SmArT i DoNt NeEd An aNtIvIrUs!" will erase that fact, theres simply WAY too many attack vectors to not protect your self.

Windows Defender has gone from a joke to being on the upper echelon of AV programs.

Yes Microsoft messes up just about everything and Defender isn't perfect but it actually is better than the rest as it doesn't bombard you with adds and ruin your disk performance randomly.

You also need Defender to use the MS Store and Xbox apps. Period.

Why on earth are you trying to disable it?

also dont have an anual fee suprised how people dont remember how expensive anti viruses were or deal with norton who asks you constantly

[Quint]

Originally posted by lailaamell:

Originally posted by The_Abortionator:

First off, do no ride the net and download things without an AV. You literally NEED ONE on Windows. PERIOD. No amount of "Im SmArT i DoNt NeEd An aNtIvIrUs!" will erase that fact, theres simply WAY too many attack vectors to not protect your self.

Windows Defender has gone from a joke to being on the upper echelon of AV programs.

Yes Microsoft messes up just about everything and Defender isn't perfect but it actually is better than the rest as it doesn't bombard you with adds and ruin your disk performance randomly.

You also need Defender to use the MS Store and Xbox apps. Period.

Why on earth are you trying to disable it?

also dont have an anual fee suprised how people dont remember how expensive anti viruses were or deal with norton who asks you constantly

The OP is asking for a dummy program to "fool" Win Defender into thinking there is an AV installed. I don't exactly know how Defender works OP seems to think that Win Defender allows to disable itself if there is another AV installed, I think?

[A&A]

Wow. And what will you do with 100-200MB of RAM?

[Haruspex]

Originally posted by A&A:

Wow. And what are you gonna do with 200MB RAM?

I've noticed a few folks who see any RAM in use they did not specifically authorize as like having a squatter take up residence in your computer. They could have 128 GB of RAM, most of it free, and they'll be all up in arms about the 1-2 GB some browser is using.

[A&A]

Originally posted by Haruspex:

I've noticed a few folks who see any RAM in use they did not specifically authorize as like having a squatter take up residence in your computer. They could have 128 GB of RAM, most of it free, and they'll be all up in arms about the 1-2 GB some browser is using.

I understand if it's a computer with 4 or 8 GB of RAM and an iGPU which you can very easily maximize it, but RAM has become ridiculously cheap. But this case when someone has 128 GB lol.

[_I_]

you can just add the entire drive to defender as its ignore/exceptions and it will effectively be disabled

you should already add steam and its game library folders to its exceptions
there are a few games that do trigger its rules and delete/break the game