Choosing RTX 4070

[Spy Boy]

Hi

I want to finally swap my Asus gtx1060 6gb Turbo on brand new RTX 4070. Right now I am choosing between
1)Asus RTX 4070 Dual-RTX4070-O12G-EVO
2)Gigabyte RTX 4070 GV-N4070WF20C-12GD
3)Gigabyte RTX 4070 Windforce OC.

My power supply is Be Quiet! 700W Gold.

I have no plans for overlocking.

I personally have no idea if I have to choose the one with 2 coolers or the one with 3 coolers.

And my case is Corsair Spec-Alpha.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

The fan quality of Gigabyte is usually not the greatest, especially for cheaper versions. ASUS tends to make better quality and more reliable cooling solutions. Dual versions of ASUS cards have bigger fans then most cards with triple fans so that`s not really an issue.
PSU is fine for it, 4070 is not really power hungry card.

[Spy Boy]

Origineel geplaatst door Rumpelcrutchskin:

The fan quality of Gigabyte is usually not the greatest, especially for cheaper versions. ASUS tends to make better quality and more reliable cooling solutions. Dual versions of ASUS cards have bigger fans then most cards with triple fans so that`s not really an issue.
PSU is fine for it, 4070 is not really power hungry card.

So, you are saying that this Asus 4070 Dual is better solution than these two Gigabyte? Because this Asus Dual is also the most cheapest of all 3 at my local reseller.

[Spy Boy]

I checked some other specs and I see that Gigabyte 4070 GV-N4070WF20C-12GD (or shall I simply call it dual Gigabyte) has the highest memory frequences of all three - 2475 Mhz and 2490 Mhz.. Whatever that means. :D

[Spy Boy]

I was mistaken. Gigabyte Windforce has even 21000 Mhz. But again, I have no idea what does it mean.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Origineel geplaatst door Baldur93:

Origineel geplaatst door Rumpelcrutchskin:

The fan quality of Gigabyte is usually not the greatest, especially for cheaper versions. ASUS tends to make better quality and more reliable cooling solutions. Dual versions of ASUS cards have bigger fans then most cards with triple fans so that`s not really an issue.
PSU is fine for it, 4070 is not really power hungry card.

So, you are saying that this Asus 4070 Dual is better solution than these two Gigabyte? Because this Asus Dual is also the most cheapest of all 3 at my local reseller.

Pretty much. I would choose ASUS or MSI over stuff like Gigabyte or Zotac when it comes to GPUs. There are lot of reports of Gigabyte GPU fans breaking down in a year or less or starting to wobble and make noise. Never had issues like that with ASUS myself.
Also some of the more expensive 4070 versions from Gigabyte use the stupid 16-pin PSU connector and that can be annoying to set up with the adapter that is sometimes damn fire hazard if you bend the cables too much.
That ASUS Dual use only one 6+2 pin.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Origineel geplaatst door Baldur93:

I checked some other specs and I see that Gigabyte 4070 GV-N4070WF20C-12GD (or shall I simply call it dual Gigabyte) has the highest memory frequences of all three - 2475 Mhz and 2490 Mhz.. Whatever that means. :D

It means they are factory overclocked little higher but that doesn`t really amount to much in overall performance.

[Spy Boy]

Origineel geplaatst door Rumpelcrutchskin:

Origineel geplaatst door Baldur93:

So, you are saying that this Asus 4070 Dual is better solution than these two Gigabyte? Because this Asus Dual is also the most cheapest of all 3 at my local reseller.

Pretty much. I would choose ASUS or MSI over stuff like Gigabyte or Zotac when it comes to GPUs. There are lot of reports of Gigabyte GPU fans breaking down in a year or less or starting to wobble and make noise. Never had issues like that with ASUS myself.
Also some of the more expensive 4070 versions from Gigabyte use the stupid 16-pin PSU connector and that can be annoying to set up with the adapter that is sometimes damn fire hazard if you bend the cables too much.
That ASUS Dual use only one 6+2 pin.

Okay. But what's the point in such models at all, then? I mean, this triple fan Gigabyte, for example. If Asus offers better GPU and even for better price, lol.

Also if factory overclock has little impact on performance, I also see no point in it.

[Spy Boy]

Origineel geplaatst door Rumpelcrutchskin:

Origineel geplaatst door Baldur93:

I checked some other specs and I see that Gigabyte 4070 GV-N4070WF20C-12GD (or shall I simply call it dual Gigabyte) has the highest memory frequences of all three - 2475 Mhz and 2490 Mhz.. Whatever that means. :D

It means they are factory overclocked little higher but that doesn`t really amount to much in overall performance.

Is it just marketing trick then?..

[Spy Boy]

Origineel geplaatst door Rumpelcrutchskin:

Origineel geplaatst door Baldur93:

So, you are saying that this Asus 4070 Dual is better solution than these two Gigabyte? Because this Asus Dual is also the most cheapest of all 3 at my local reseller.

Pretty much. I would choose ASUS or MSI over stuff like Gigabyte or Zotac when it comes to GPUs. There are lot of reports of Gigabyte GPU fans breaking down in a year or less or starting to wobble and make noise. Never had issues like that with ASUS myself.
Also some of the more expensive 4070 versions from Gigabyte use the stupid 16-pin PSU connector and that can be annoying to set up with the adapter that is sometimes damn fire hazard if you bend the cables too much.
That ASUS Dual use only one 6+2 pin.

As my current GPU is Asus, I myself can say that I was satisfied with it all this time. Asus is solid choice, I think. I never had MSI cards but I never heard anything bad about them.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

Origineel geplaatst door Baldur93:

Origineel geplaatst door Rumpelcrutchskin:

It means they are factory overclocked little higher but that doesn`t really amount to much in overall performance.

Is it just marketing trick then?..

Yeah since that difference does not amount to that much. Most card makers have three or four versions of cards with no overclock and with various degrees of factory overclock.
Higher factory overclocks usually have bigger cooling solutions to compensate.
It`s a good way to get more money out from people who just need to have the cutting edge.
Sometimes worth it for better cooling solution and sometimes not.

[Spy Boy]

Origineel geplaatst door Rumpelcrutchskin:

Origineel geplaatst door Baldur93:

Is it just marketing trick then?..

Yeah since that difference does not amount to that much. Most card makers have three or four versions of cards with no overclock and with various degrees of factory overclock.
Higher factory overclocks usually have bigger cooling solutions to compensate.
It`s a good way to get more money out from people who just need to have the cutting edge.
Sometimes worth it for better cooling solution and sometimes not.

Thank you. I will try to make a choice today. By the way, hi from Riga to a lovely neighbor, haha.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

RTX 40 series below the 4080 is a joke.
Go look at AMD 7900 GRE for around $550

[Spy Boy]

Origineel geplaatst door Bad 💀 Motha:

RTX 40 series below the 4080 is a joke.
Go look at AMD 7900 GRE for around $550

Why they are joke? From what I saw, 4060 is indeed a bad choice but 4070 is not. I'm not interested in 4K gaming or something. My current monitor is not even 2K.

Also I use Intel. For AMD one needs Ryzen, as far as I know

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Between 4060 Ti, 4070, 4070 Super, 4070 Ti, 4070 Ti Super
the difference between the lowest and the highest here is very small.
7900 GRE or XT will basically give you 4070 / 4070 Ti performance for much less cost.

While the 7900 XTX would give you 4080 performance.

7900 GRE is very good bang for buck right now, pushing out their own 7800 XT due to being priced nearly the same.

Intel vs AMD CPU has not one thing to do with what dedicated GPU card you use. You can use Intel and NVIDIA GPUs on AMD Ryzen CPU as well, it never does matter at all.

I've done tons of AMD CPU + NVIDIA GPU builds over the years, never a problem.

If you do buy any RTX 40 series GPU, then it woukl also be wise to go buy a minimum PSU of around 850W that is latest ATX 3.0 + PCIE 5.0 (12-pin connector for RTX 40/50 series GPUs)

[Spy Boy]

Origineel geplaatst door Bad 💀 Motha:

Between 4060 Ti, 4070, 4070 Super, 4070 Ti, 4070 Ti Super
the difference between the lowest and the highest here is very small.
7900 GRE or XT will basically give you 4070 / 4070 Ti performance for much less cost.

While the 7900 XTX would give you 4080 performance.

7900 GRE is very good bang for buck right now, pushing out their own 7800 XT due to being priced nearly the same.

Intel vs AMD CPU has not one thing to do with what dedicated GPU card you use. You can use Intel and NVIDIA GPUs on AMD Ryzen CPU as well, it never does matter at all.

I've done tons of AMD CPU + NVIDIA GPU builds over the years, never a problem.

If you do buy any RTX 40 series GPU, then it woukl also be wise to go buy a minimum PSU of around 850W that is latest ATX 3.0 + PCIE 5.0 (12-pin connector for RTX 40/50 series GPUs)

Pls explain better on PSU part - most of PS calculators online I checked give the amount smaller than of 700W with such GPU as RTX 4070.

Also most of resellers write that recommended PSU for 4070 is 650W.