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Thanks for all the replies guys! I think I'm about decided now :)
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/sys/4199436822.html
like that there will play tf2 on high and it is only $200
those were bad when they were new
2.2ghz will be extremely slow
tf2 requires a very good cpu and decent gpu
> decent CPU cooler (like a CoolerMaster HyperTX3 or Hyper212, both of which are cheaply priced)
> 4GB RAM minimum
> 500GB HDD minimum
> 64bit OS (Win7 SP1 preferably)
> fairly priced PSU that still has good enough quality, such as Corsair CX500 (minimum)
And the AMD FM2 motherboard will still have a current gen PCI Express X16 slot so adding a much more powerful dedicated GPU down the road is easily an option.