"No processor graphics" what does this mean?

[Your Computer]

I was looking to buy a new CPU, and in the description it said "No processor graphics". this will be my second CPU, my first and currrent is core 2 quad 3.00.
Thanks.

[_I_]

the cpu does not have a built in gpu/igp/apu
ex. the athlon 2 750k, most other fm1/2 cpus have a gpu on them
and i5 xxxxp, most other intel 1155/1150 cpus have an igp on them

[Vitdom]

It means it does not have an integrated graphics processor and you need to have an external graphics card or it won't work.

[Trade-01]

APU(the CPU with intergrated graphics chip) are not meant for gaming anyway. If you have a dedicated graphics card, don't bother with these.

[Your Computer]

Just wana say thanks for the replys, and why would a CPU witn no graphics be bad for gaming? I already have a GPU, Radeon 6570 HD. Thanks for the replys.

[rotNdude]

Originally posted by XplayerTX:

why would a CPU witn no graphics be bad for gaming? I already have a GPU, Radeon 6570 HD. Thanks for the replys.

A CPU with no graphics won't be bad for gaming. You normally want a discrete video card for gaming.

[Vitdom]

An IGP performs worse than external GPUs in e.g. gaming. So if you are going to play games, don't bother with CPUs containing IGPs, they just cost extra for no gain.

[Your Computer]

I just want to say things guys for replying, my opinion has change some.
The CPU I'm after is Intel Core i5-2380P Quad-Core Processor 3.1 GHz 6 MB Cache LGA 1155 and

mother bored MSI Computer Corp. LGA 1155 Intel Z77 DDR3 1333 CrossFireX and SLI/ SATA3 USB 3.0 A&GbE ATX Motherboard Z77A-GD65

[Your Computer]

Just checking, you will need a graphic card to use this CPU right?

[ZƐZZƐX]

Originally posted by YautjaZealot:

APU(the CPU with intergrated graphics chip) are not meant for gaming anyway.

Thats not true. IPU's are alot better then intergrated graphics chips that are built into some older motherboards. These chips built into motherboards are not good for anything except regular desktop use. Great if all you do is check your email and do facebook.

IPU's were impressive because they are capable of running games. Sure they dont stand a chance against a dedicated card but they do decent enough of a job running games that aren't cutting edge graphics.

[Tusken GA]

Originally posted by ZeZZeX:

Originally posted by YautjaZealot:

APU(the CPU with intergrated graphics chip) are not meant for gaming anyway.

Thats not true. IPU's are alot better then intergrated graphics chips that are built into some older motherboards. These chips built into motherboards are not good for anything except regular desktop use. Great if all you do is check your email and do facebook.

IPU's were impressive because they are capable of running games. Sure they dont stand a chance against a dedicated card but they do decent enough of a job running games that aren't cutting edge graphics.

I can play Skyrim on low settings at 720p with just over 30fps on my Intel HD graphics 3000 (i5 2500K) IGP and the Iris Pro 5200 on the latest haswell CPUs absolutely smokes my HD 3000. In fact, an Iris Pro 5200 can run Metro Last Light on Medium settings at 1366x768 at around 40fps.

Worse than a dedicated card sure but still pretty powerful. I think Intel has moved so far so fast that people still think their IGPs suck. I mean, as near as 4 generations ago, their IGPs were abysmal. Think the Core 2 series of processors.

Now they can run high end games at playable settings on medium? I can't wait for Broadwell to rachet things up again. They've come a very long way in a very short span of time.

[senseidongen]

Originally posted by YautjaZealot:

APU(the CPU with intergrated graphics chip) are not meant for gaming anyway. If you have a dedicated graphics card, don't bother with these.

APUs absolutely are meant for gaming - that's literally the entire point of them. Sure, they aren't anywhere near as powerful as a decent discrete CPU and GPU but both of those cost a fair bit of money and need a decent sized case to install them in. APUs are great for gaming on a budget or in a small footprint case and the top end A10 APUs actually allow you to get playable frame rates on new games at 1080p (Bioshock infinite, for example, looks and works great on my A10 at 1080p with medium settings and AA enabled).

But yeah, if you're buying a discrete GPU, the lack of "processor graphics" isn't an issue unless your GPU dies, in which case you'll need another on standby to do anything on your PC... but it shouldn't come to that :)

[_I_]

the apus were ment for htpc builds (movies/browsing/flash) where a dedicated card isnt needed
they can game on mid-lower settings
but if your gong to game, get an am3/am3+ or 1150/1155 build with a dedicated gpu

[senseidongen]

Originally posted by _I_:

the apus were ment for htpc builds (movies/browsing/flash) where a dedicated card isnt needed
they can game on mid-lower settings
but if your gong to game, get an am3/am3+ or 1150/1155 build with a dedicated gpu

To clarify my position, I do agree with _|_... However I would argue that the A10 APU is a little overpowered for a HTPC (not to mention high TDP) so I do think AMD had budget gaming specfically in mind with that chip