Rivatuner or MSi Afterburner causes crash on several games

[Elmotava]

I bought a new pc and wanted to see my CPU and GPU's temperature. I dowloaded it and safely installed. Then I downloaded Mafia Definitive Edition to test it but then game stuck on a black screen and it did not start. I tried every solution on youtube but it did not work. After that I decided to try pölaying another game so I downloaded Fallout 4. I launched the game without the MSİ Afterburner at my first time opening it, it was working fine so I decided to open MSI AFterburner in my 2nd launch but to my suprise it also didn't work. I researched and I learned that the problem is the Rivatuner so I uninstalled rivatuner and my games and tried again but I still got the same results.

Thanks for any help.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Change the way RivaTuner uses Overlay in the settings.

[Elmotava]

But I uninstalled Rivatuner, should I reinstall?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well you need RivaTuner in order to display whatever you want as OSD from MSI Afterburner. MSI AB can't do it by itself. You do not have to use either of those though, especially if you do not need ability to change GPU Clocks or control the GPU Fan(s).

You can simply use apps such as CPUID HWMonitor and also GPU-Z.
You have to ALT+TAB over to them however they will keep a record of the max while the apps are running, so simply start them up before loading up any games.

But if that is not your issue, as you say you uninstalled it, as far as Games loading up correctly and such, then it's something else. Stop an app from running, one at a time to rule them out.

So for example, now Exit out of MSI AB entirely, then load up a game that you had issues with before and see if the issues are still present, if so then it was never MSI AB or RTSS that was your issue in the first place and it's something else that is the problem/conflict.

[Elmotava]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Well you need RivaTuner in order to display whatever you want as OSD from MSI Afterburner. MSI AB can't do it by itself. You do not have to use either of those though, especially if you do not need ability to change GPU Clocks or control the GPU Fan(s).

You can simply use apps such as CPUID HWMonitor and also GPU-Z.
You have to ALT+TAB over to them however they will keep a record of the max while the apps are running, so simply start them up before loading up any games.

But if that is not your issue, as you say you uninstalled it, as far as Games loading up correctly and such, then it's something else. Stop an app from running, one at a time to rule them out.

So for example, now Exit out of MSI AB entirely, then load up a game that you had issues with before and see if the issues are still present, if so then it was never MSI AB or RTSS that was your issue in the first place and it's something else that is the problem/conflict.

I just talked with the technic service of the company that I bought the pc from and they said this issue might be about the Bıos updates conflicting with other files so they said format the computer so I'll try that.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

That company sounds like complete idiots.
BIOS has nothing to do with file conflicts. Like WTF.
Does their tech support even speak proper English?
Nothing like that is having anything to do with your OS or Games.

[Elmotava]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

That company sounds like complete idiots.
BIOS has nothing to do with file conflicts. Like WTF.
Does their tech support even speak proper English?
Nothing like that is having anything to do with your OS or Games.

So I just noticed that the game works well in the background but when I Alt+TAB into the game it suddenly stops. Do you know any solutions?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Run it in Borderless Windowed Mode.
For example, DX12 games generally do not like it when any ALT+Tabbing occurs when the game is ran under Full-Screen Mode.

[Elmotava]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Run it in Borderless Windowed Mode.

Thank you sorry for taking your time. I always played on fullscreen so I didn't tought about that thank again.

[Castyles]

Best to use the Nvidia control panel or the Radeon software.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Castyles:

Best to use the Nvidia control panel or the Radeon software.

That doesn't have the features many Gamers and Benchmarking folks need; such as OSD features, CPU and GPU Temps, VRAM usage etc.

Course now with Win10/11 that is made easier with the Xbox GameBar. While simple, it does the job in a pinch.

[Elmotava]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Run it in Borderless Windowed Mode.
For example, DX12 games generally do not like it when any ALT+Tabbing occurs when the game is ran under Full-Screen Mode.

How can I fix the fullscreen issue other than opening games on the windowed mode?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Again you have something running in the background that's causing game launch issues and its not MSI AB or RTSS. Go and rule that out.

[Elmotava]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Again you have something running in the background that's causing game launch issues and its not MSI AB or RTSS. Go and rule that out.

I don't know which one to close because I am scared of closing an important app tgat night lead to system crash etc.

[Castyles]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Originally posted by Castyles:

Best to use the Nvidia control panel or the Radeon software.

That doesn't have the features many Gamers and Benchmarking folks need; such as OSD features, CPU and GPU Temps, VRAM usage etc.

Apart from some stuff regarding the OSD, the Radeon software has everything that you wrote...

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by El-Turki:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Again you have something running in the background that's causing game launch issues and its not MSI AB or RTSS. Go and rule that out.

I don't know which one to close because I am scared of closing an important app tgat night lead to system crash etc.

That's not even possible if you are doing it correctly from Task Manager.
And limit yourself to only things that would run/start an EXE or Service based on what's installed by the User and not the OS. The OS will block you from ending certain tasks.
You shouldn't need to go stopping a bunch of services though. Services part of your OS would only be filled with junk if you installed a bunch of junk to begin with. The OS supplied services shouldn't hurt or interfere with Gaming.