Any good points to upgrade to 24 GB Ram ?

[ShadowCrowax]

I currently have a Geforce GTX 850m and 8 GB ram.
so what would be the difference if I climb to 24 GB Ram while keeping my my old GPU ?

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 尺．し工几句ヨ尺:

Uhhh, the motherboard you mentioned doesn't exist, but the M5A99FX does, and it doesn't support quad channel, nor does FX. I think you're mistaking channels for ranks. Or you just don't understand your own hardware.

yes thats mine i dont memorize everything lmao

well whatevs it gots me running with 4 sticks of 8gb so i take it for quad since its fast, whatever floats your boat

my friend who helped me build this rig knows a lots about pcs and he told me its a good motherboard for quad channel so im keeping it :)

[r.linder]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 尺．し工几句ヨ尺:

Uhhh, the motherboard you mentioned doesn't exist, but the M5A99FX does, and it doesn't support quad channel, nor does FX. I think you're mistaking channels for ranks. Or you just don't understand your own hardware.

yes thats mine i dont memorize everything lmao

well whatevs it gots me running with 4 sticks of 8gb so i take it for quad since its fast, whatever floats your boat

Okay? Your personal feelings don't change facts and logic.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:

yes thats mine i dont memorize everything lmao

well whatevs it gots me running with 4 sticks of 8gb so i take it for quad since its fast, whatever floats your boat

my friend who helped me build this rig knows a lots about pcs and he told me its a good motherboard for quad channel so im keeping it :)

Your "friend" doesn't know what he's talking about, sorry. The literal memory spec for FX series caps at dual channel.

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/fx-9590.c1650

Also, specifications for socket AM3+ are here: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/packages/socket_am3%2B#Features
see this line: "Up to 4 UDIMMs or SODIMMs (2 per channel)"

[Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}]

ok dont matter, im still happy with it and glad it has 4 sticks my friend knows more then me and you combined so thats good, good day sir

[r.linder]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:

ok dont matter, im still happy with it and glad it has 4 sticks my friend knows more then me and you combined so thats good, good day sir

Then I invite your friend to come here, we'd love to talk with him about how he's spreading misinformation, if he even exists. All of the facts are online for everyone to see.

[Illusion of Progress]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Watermelon {JESUS IS LORD}:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย 尺．し工几句ヨ尺:

Uhhh, the motherboard you mentioned doesn't exist, but the M5A99FX does, and it doesn't support quad channel, nor does FX. I think you're mistaking channels for ranks. Or you just don't understand your own hardware.

yes thats mine i dont memorize everything lmao

well whatevs it gots me running with 4 sticks of 8gb so i take it for quad since its fast, whatever floats your boat

Four DIMM slots doesn't meant four channels. DIMM slot count is totally separate from channel count. Your CPU does not support quad channel. You are using four DIMMs, but that doesn't mean you have four channels. You have two channels that have two DIMMs in each channel.

I've run four DIMMs for the last fifteen or so years across three platforms (Core 2 Duo E8400/E8600, Core i5 2500K, Ryzen 7 3700X/5800X3D) so i speak from experience as well as knowledge. I've never had quad channel in any of them. You need the CPU (or the North bridge on platforms old enough to not have the IMC integrated) to support quad channel. And most consumer platforms don't.

On most consumer platforms which support dual channel, if there's four DIMM slots, you'll simply have two DIMM slots in the same channel. It's the entire reason you need to ensure the memory is in the "correct" slots when using two DIMMs on a four DIMM slot board, because if they're not in the"correct" slots, they will be in the same channel (meaning no dual channel). If each slot was its own channel and the board "only" had four DIMM slots, you wouldn't have to worry about where they went as you'd get dual channel regardless.

[[☥] - CJ -]

Kinda funny how most of this reflects my thread from before lmao.

While his laptop may not have 4 DIMM slots, i can say for a fact that running 2x8GB AND 2x4GB DOES NOT hurt performance to the extent that someone stated it would. As long as they are NEAR Identical or Purely Identical RAM Sticks ANY Loss using that configuration compared to 2x8GB is irrelevant.

And yeah, Triple or Quad Channel is not possible on Dual Channel ONLY Motherboards.

[Midnight Aurais]

As long as you dont run out of ram when running your applications you dont need more as running out of ram means it has to rely on the page file which is alot slower even on a ssd

Although pci 5.0 with 12 to 14 gb transfer speed might outperform some ramsticks which would make the idea of a ramless pc reasonable

[Crashed]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Midnight Aurais:

As long as you dont run out of ram when running your applications you dont need more as running out of ram means it has to rely on the page file which is alot slower even on a ssd

Although pci 5.0 with 12 to 14 gb transfer speed might outperform some ramsticks which would make the idea of a ramless pc reasonable

While PCIE 5.0 may be as fast as RAM, how is the latency?

[deadshooter]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย nullable:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย deadshooter:

???
it's pretty easy to have 24 Gb iusing two slots - put one 8 gb stick and one 16 Gb stick. Dual channel wil work for first 16 Gb in both sticks, but will work as single channel for last 8 in big stick.

This is true. But realistically on older systems, there may not be 16GB modules available. And in some cases compatibility may be an issue on very large modules. Like they're may be 16GB DDR3 dimms, but not all DDR3 systems may be happy with them.

But 16GB dimms probably aren't an issue on any DDR5 system.

As with most things there may be a few reasonable asterisks.

yes, DDR3 doesn't have regular 16 Gb modules, onle server ECC REG sticks, which are unsupported by desktops.

[Midnight Aurais]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Crashed:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Midnight Aurais:

As long as you dont run out of ram when running your applications you dont need more as running out of ram means it has to rely on the page file which is alot slower even on a ssd

Although pci 5.0 with 12 to 14 gb transfer speed might outperform some ramsticks which would make the idea of a ramless pc reasonable

While PCIE 5.0 may be as fast as RAM, how is the latency?

It is still too new to verify gotta wait for the tech to mature

Meanwhile pci 7.0 is coming out pretty soon with a bandwidth of 512 gb/s xd

[ChickenBalls]

There are no 24GB gaming gpu for laptops other than using full size external gpu using adapters/enclosures

[Midnight Aurais]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ChickenBalls:

There are no 24GB gaming gpu for laptops other than using full size external gpu using adapters/enclosures

Hold nvidia's beer

[ChickenBalls]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Midnight Aurais:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ChickenBalls:

There are no 24GB gaming gpu for laptops other than using full size external gpu using adapters/enclosures

Hold nvidia's beer

heh the so called RTX 4090 Mobile is actually a 4080 with lower power limit and same 16GB vram. just another Nvidia scam.

[[☥] - CJ -]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ChickenBalls:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Midnight Aurais:

Hold nvidia's beer

heh the so called RTX 4090 Mobile is actually a 4080 with lower power limit and same 16GB vram. just another Nvidia scam.

Thats pretty much how all Laptop GPUs starting from the 10 series have always been though?

[aRtHesão]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ShadowCrowax:

I currently have a Geforce GTX 850m and 8 GB ram.
so what would be the difference if I climb to 24 GB Ram while keeping my my old GPU ?

8gb is so bad in 2023