Will a I5 4670K last me for the next ten years? Plus isn't a I5 5670K coming out 2014?
Should i get this or wait until next year if a I5 5670K?
I want a really expensive processor in my new upcoming build, however the graphics will be a GTX 650 TI or something because i'm gonna wait until a GTX 880 etc.
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IP3NIX lähetti viestin:
Should i get this or wait until next year if a I5 5670K?
I want a really expensive processor in my new upcoming build, however the graphics will be a GTX 650 TI or something because i'm gonna wait until a GTX 880 etc.

Well, if you're not planning on upgrading for 10 years, you should go with something like the Intel i7-4930K. It's hugely expensive, but it will hold up better ahtn the i5 45670k over ten years.
_I_ 14.12.2013 klo 15.18 
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got ya. thank you for the clarification. Also I thought about it after and you know what? you play your 'amd card' all you want. do what you got to do. In fact I love AMD and currently have no parts in my PC that are AMD and am quite dissappointed about it. I kept my Phenom II sticker on my case though. Just so I know where I come from. Happy gaming.

i would like to see amd do good again, they keep intels prices down
but amd has not been able to keep up with intels cpu core performance

amd has more cores on their cheaper cpus, but they are not as fast
if the game uses 4 cores why do you want 6-8 cores at 2/3 the speed?

in the next 10 years, games may use more cores, but by then intel will have 6-8 core gaming cpus which will be 10 years ahead of amd
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zeekancient lähetti viestin:
got ya. thank you for the clarification. Also I thought about it after and you know what? you play your 'amd card' all you want. do what you got to do. In fact I love AMD and currently have no parts in my PC that are AMD and am quite dissappointed about it. I kept my Phenom II sticker on my case though. Just so I know where I come from. Happy gaming.

i would like to see amd do good again, they keep intels prices down
but amd has not been able to keep up with intels cpu core performance

amd has more cores on their cheaper cpus, but they are not as fast
if the game uses 4 cores why do you want 6-8 cores at 2/3 the speed?

in the next 10 years, games may use more cores, but by then intel will have 6-8 core gaming cpus which will be 10 years ahead of amd

Too true. AMD have done a great job with pricing and acquiring ATI is going to keep them very competitive in the game for years to come. Although while I love what they have done with releasing a GPU like the R9 290X at 550, in order to do so they had to minimize on their reference design. Thus, heat and noise is horrendous in IMO. The build quality is just not there compared to Nvidia. I bought a GTX 780 in June for 650 and would still rather own it than the more powerful 290x which is cheaper, but throttles horribly. And with a simple OC and custom fan profile my GPU outperforms a stock 290x, never gets above 70C and is super quiet. I have the EVGA SC ACX version yet I have not seen a non reference 290X out there but im sure they will be expensive.

Anyways went off subject there, but the point is AMD can't really compete with Intel on the high end and they have to make major sacrifices in order to compete with Nvidia. But at least on the GPU front they can remain super competitive on the performance side. We just need a company that can be competitive on the CPU performance side. That way prices might become balanced more. $1050 for a 4960x is just too much!!!.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on ZeekAncient; 15.12.2013 klo 16.24
Depends what you do and if it doesn't break somehow. I doubt it would last 10 years honestly and building systems for future proofing usually is a waste as it will just become outdated eventually, theres no telling how long it would last.
Well, I can finally confirm that my 4670k has indeed lasted 9 and a half years so far and I'm yet to find a game that can't be played with it. Quite impressive, to be honest.
My i5-3570K is still running ok - it can't handle everything, but for how old it is, it is impressive that it is still going (even overclocked from 3.4ghz to 4.2ghz)
Viimeisin muokkaaja on [N]ebsun; 20.12.2022 klo 3.01
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My i5-3570K is still running ok - it can't handle everything, but for how old it is, it is impressive that it is still going (even overclocked from 3.4ghz to 4.2ghz)
I loved that little thing of my own. I'm using a 10600K now but my original 3570K went through hell with Finite Element Method simulations and Source Engine compilations countless times and it never let up. Still keeping it around on my old MAXIMUS FORMULA V.

So I'm not surprised if the OP is deeply satisfied at this point. Unlocked CPUs can still last a very long time.

The only thing that might prevent you from playing a game today is modern AVX encodings or specific instructions that CPUs did not have at the time.
Some of the remastered Yakuza games have this criteria, for example.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Mailer; 20.12.2022 klo 4.08
Depending on the games and application you run anything can last a long time.

Many AAA games are more GPU intensive rather than CPU; hence older CPUs being able to run them.

Such CPUs will have issues running sandbox games that are heavily CPU bound, such as Cities Skylines or Transport Fever, though.
carl 20.12.2022 klo 3.23 
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My i5-3570K is still running ok - it can't handle everything, but for how old it is, it is impressive that it is still going (even overclocked from 3.4ghz to 4.2ghz)
I loved that little thing of my own. I'm using a 10600K now but my original 3570K went through hell with Finite Element Method simulations and Source Engine compilations countless times and it never let up. Still keeping it around on my old MAXIMUS FORMULA V.

So I'm not surprised that the OP is deeply satisfied at this point. Unlocked CPUs can still last a very long time.

The only thing that might prevent you from playing a game is modern AVX encodings or specific instructions that CPUs did not have at the time.
Some of the remastered Yakuza games have this criteria.

Curious. Which FE analysis software is this? An expensive license or free open sourced software?
I mean a FX 8150 can still play just about everything, just not at max or even 60fps in a lot of titles but still "playable" so I can see a 4670 lasting even longer due to its faster single core speed. I got a i5 4570s in a Lenovo m73 tiny I use for my DNS server, and I host a Minecraft and Valheim server on it, it handles all the pretty well, just can't transfer large files while people are on the servers, CPU will sit at 70% with 1gbit speeds lol.

It does pretty good.
If he is actually OP and not just a necro, account is not the same.
Rumpelcrutchskin lähetti viestin:
If he is actually OP and not just a necro, account is not the same.
Does it have to be though, I mean the 4670 is still pretty usable today if you know its limits
pasa 20.12.2022 klo 7.07 
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My i5-3570K is still running ok - it can't handle everything, but for how old it is, it is impressive that it is still going (even overclocked from 3.4ghz to 4.2ghz)

Same gere (without the OC), 10.5 years and still ticking. Started to draft upgrade 6 years ago and it was pushed back and back. Though very likely will happen next year as AM5 boards get revisions to sort out early issues.

Overdid my previous CPUs that went 7-8 years (Celeron 300A going at 450 and a P4 Celeron D 2.2G-ish). Next current candidate is R7 7700X. And for a change might be swapped along the road keeping the mobo.
Knightscover lähetti viestin:
Well, I can finally confirm that my 4670k has indeed lasted 9 and a half years so far and I'm yet to find a game that can't be played with it. Quite impressive, to be honest.
Interesting thread to look back on.

I would have had a Core i5 2500K when this thread was made. I got it very late 2011 (December). It lasted me until early-mid 2020 (more mid I guess since it was May or June I think). Not quite as long as yours did but close at eight and a half years. And what makes it more impressive is I didn't even upgrade solely for the desire of more CPU performance or cores. It was partly for that, but a combination of needing more RAM and needing to update from Windows 7, so I felt I'd just replace the platform rather than getting 32 GB of DDR3, which I wasn't sure if it'd be enough long term.

But the Sandy Bridge generation and the couple around it just had the stars align. Intel was so far ahead, there was still a lot of overclocking room available, prices weren't yet crazy, stagnation hadn't yet set in (it was about to), so they just lasted a really long time. Contrasted to the 6th/7th generation which were at the tail end of core/thread count stagnation, but honestly even today a good quad core is well usable (more so if it has threading, but sometimes even without). Windows 11 and beyond needing TPM to officially support them will be one of the final things to more phase out the pre-8th generation CPUs come late 2025 and beyond. They had a long life.

I went with a 3700X and 64 GB RAM to replace it. I get the feeling this might not last as long, not because it can't because I think it could if I wanted it to, but because I've been wanting a 5800X3D since it's a nice uplift on the same platform and a reasonable cost for what it is (an option the LGA 1155 platform didn't offer in 2020 as the used 2600K/3770K CPUs were ridiculously overpriced for what they were). But that's on the back burner so to speak as my GPU will be my next priority.

My oldest CPU still "in use" is a Core 2 Quad Q9550 in an HTPC. It replaced an E8600 which I still have I'd probably swap back in if all I was doing with it was streaming, but it's on standby for the rare case I need to host a Minecraft server from it (long story). Both are from 2008.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on Illusion of Progress; 20.12.2022 klo 20.14
udidwht 25.12.2022 klo 16.32 
Still running an i7 3770K, GA-Z68XP-UD3, RTX 2070, 32GB DDR3, (4) 1TB SSDs it will play what's thrown at it fine.
Viimeisin muokkaaja on udidwht; 25.12.2022 klo 16.33
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