Low end pc max Fps?

[Rio]

Hello :) i have a low end pc where i try some things and yea its just for fun and learning things. (amd fx8350 and gtx 960 4GB, 16Gb ram, windows 10).

What are you doing to get max fps which are impossible?
My fps in Counterstrike 2: 120-70, Apex legends 80-100, Raimbow Six 100-90, valorant: 125-170

What i did: driver update, windows services close which are not needet (70 services in idle now), fan control optimzing to get early cool temps now (temps are good in stress test), change the
thermal paste, change nvidia conrol settings and nvidiaprofilinspector. So, for example cs run well for this old pc. But i want to know can i do something more? any ideas?

The amd fx 8350 gets fast high and max temp are 60 degrees, so overclock is not a good idea. And idk if its that good to overclock gtx 960.

[Lixire]

You can try to disable the security mitigations of Spectre and Meltdown if you want to which can help if you are very CPU bound in some games
Overclocking the 960 is an option and you won't kill your GPU right away as long you don't mess with voltages. if its just a typical OC with increasing the power limit to the maximum and then increase core and memory clock I don't expect anything to happen. at reset back to stock if you have artifacts or driver crashes

On AMD FX CPUs, overclocking the hypertransport can result in decent increases as you allow more bandwidth to go through

Before you do any of it, make sure to look up on each thing and see if its worth it for ya or not. especially if that's your only machine.

[nullable]

When I was young I did the same sort of things. I learned a lot. It's a great hobby. Now that I'm old, one of the things I learned is that money solves a lot of performance issues/limitations with obsolete hardware.

[Rio]

Originally posted by Lixire:

You can try to disable the security mitigations of Spectre and Meltdown if you want to which can help if you are very CPU bound in some games
Overclocking the 960 is an option and you won't kill your GPU right away as long you don't mess with voltages. if its just a typical OC with increasing the power limit to the maximum and then increase core and memory clock I don't expect anything to happen. at reset back to stock if you have artifacts or driver crashes

On AMD FX CPUs, overclocking the hypertransport can result in decent increases as you allow more bandwidth to go through

Before you do any of it, make sure to look up on each thing and see if its worth it for ya or not. especially if that's your only machine.

thanks for answer :) i never did overclock before, i just watch many videos and read many about it and ye idk many people say different things. many people do different things and im scared of it, after i read the whole different solutions im more scared to do it. So, its not my main pc and i realy want to learn and try things. I just bought it for 40 bucks xd. my bios dont have uefi its a old one from gigabyte. Which program u would prefer to overclock the cpu and gpu?

[ˢᵈˣ FatCat]

just dont bro, overlock only something you can ez replace, clearly that PC is the only you can have and get

[Wichtelman]

if your motherboard is lowend aswell the mosfets will throttle any overclock anyways...

[Bing Chilling]

fx can be extremely overclocked, they held the highest OC record on CPU-Z for a long time.
however these CPU's are well over 10 years old at this point and if you don't have a replacement you probably shouldn't overclock it if you aren't experienced, as gains will be fairly low (even if you managed to get it to 5.0ghz, you'd see maybe a 10%~ increase)

if you are really inclined i'd suggest watching youtube videos to show you how to safely OC it because you will most likely need to mess with the voltages to get anything more then maybe a 100mhz OC with auto voltage. JaysTwoCents made a video years and years ago with the same cpu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

when it comes to the gtx 960 it's pretty easy to overclock, just push core by 10mhz then benchmark it using something like unigine heaven until you start getting artifacting or the benchmark crashes. then slowly dial core back and do the same but with memory in increments of 25 until again it starts artifacting or crashing.

this won't hurt the GPU, hell even messing with the voltages on a gpu via msi afterburner wont. they don't allow you to push it farther then the safe spec.

[Rio]

Originally posted by Bing Chilling:

fx can be extremely overclocked, they held the highest OC record on CPU-Z for a long time.
however these CPU's are well over 10 years old at this point and if you don't have a replacement you probably shouldn't overclock it if you aren't experienced, as gains will be fairly low (even if you managed to get it to 5.0ghz, you'd see maybe a 10%~ increase)

if you are really inclined i'd suggest watching youtube videos to show you how to safely OC it because you will most likely need to mess with the voltages to get anything more then maybe a 100mhz OC with auto voltage. JaysTwoCents made a video years and years ago with the same cpu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

when it comes to the gtx 960 it's pretty easy to overclock, just push core by 10mhz then benchmark it using something like unigine heaven until you start getting artifacting or the benchmark crashes. then slowly dial core back and do the same but with memory in increments of 25 until again it starts artifacting or crashing.

this won't hurt the GPU, hell even messing with the voltages on a gpu via msi afterburner wont. they don't allow you to push it farther then the safe spec.

thanks for your answers (from all <3) should i realy try it on the cpu? motherboard is a gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 6.0.

and yes i tried it with the gtx 960. i dont know why i was this scared tbh xd. it was very easy with afterburner and benchmark. core clock is +160 and memory clock +120. and it feels like i can go more up, i dont have any artifacting, but the power is going to 115 w and temp to 75 now in high end stress. limit (what i found) is 120 w and 80 degrees. so i stopped there. i played some games in cs2, and now it goes to 150 (!!!) fps to 80. cpu is on limit but its much better then before. any yea its only a test system for me. lean and have fun xd.

maybe i try it with the cpu. my temps are fine atm. but i only have a AMD Wraith Prism fan there. you think it can handle the overclock? if i play apex or cs2 my temps are good. cpu in full stress are on 50-52 degrees, but goes fast down if the fan rpm goes crazy. i read fx9350 starts goes down at 60 degrees, so at 49 degrees i control it atm to 100% rpm. Maybe if i overclock it and put in on 100% much earlier this works?

[A&A]

You can reduce the processes even more, but the result will not be that great.

I guess you'd be better off buying an AM4 motherboard, cheap RAM and a second hand Ryzen 5, considering the bottleneck is the FX8350.
Ryzen 3 2200G is faster and can be bought for 10 euro second hand.

[Bing Chilling]

Originally posted by rio:

thanks for your answers (from all <3) should i realy try it on the cpu? motherboard is a gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 6.0.

and yes i tried it with the gtx 960. i dont know why i was this scared tbh xd. it was very easy with afterburner and benchmark. core clock is +160 and memory clock +120. and it feels like i can go more up, i dont have any artifacting, but the power is going to 115 w and temp to 75 now in high end stress. limit (what i found) is 120 w and 80 degrees. so i stopped there. i played some games in cs2, and now it goes to 150 (!!!) fps to 80. cpu is on limit but its much better then before. any yea its only a test system for me. lean and have fun xd.

maybe i try it with the cpu. my temps are fine atm. but i only have a AMD Wraith Prism fan there. you think it can handle the overclock? if i play apex or cs2 my temps are good. cpu in full stress are on 50-52 degrees, but goes fast down if the fan rpm goes crazy. i read fx9350 starts goes down at 60 degrees, so at 49 degrees i control it atm to 100% rpm. Maybe if i overclock it and put in on 100% much earlier this works?

according to what i've found on the internet the cpu will start to throttle at 61c and shut off at 80c, i'm not super experienced with FX but i did used to use a phenom iix6 1055t which has a similar max temp and is on the same AM3 socket as your FX

i managed to overclock it to 3.8ghz (from 3.3ghz) with some core multipliers and a little extra voltage + loadline calibration setting. like i mentioned before watch that JaysTwoCents video as hes overclocking the exact same CPU as you have, and be careful with voltages. You can go crazy with core multiplier but it's voltage that can damage the cpu.

aslong as you're careful with voltages and watch temps it will be fine.
go in small increments when messing with the core voltage.

[Rio]

Originally posted by Bing Chilling:

Originally posted by rio:

thanks for your answers (from all <3) should i realy try it on the cpu? motherboard is a gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 6.0.

and yes i tried it with the gtx 960. i dont know why i was this scared tbh xd. it was very easy with afterburner and benchmark. core clock is +160 and memory clock +120. and it feels like i can go more up, i dont have any artifacting, but the power is going to 115 w and temp to 75 now in high end stress. limit (what i found) is 120 w and 80 degrees. so i stopped there. i played some games in cs2, and now it goes to 150 (!!!) fps to 80. cpu is on limit but its much better then before. any yea its only a test system for me. lean and have fun xd.

maybe i try it with the cpu. my temps are fine atm. but i only have a AMD Wraith Prism fan there. you think it can handle the overclock? if i play apex or cs2 my temps are good. cpu in full stress are on 50-52 degrees, but goes fast down if the fan rpm goes crazy. i read fx9350 starts goes down at 60 degrees, so at 49 degrees i control it atm to 100% rpm. Maybe if i overclock it and put in on 100% much earlier this works?

according to what i've found on the internet the cpu will start to throttle at 61c and shut off at 80c, i'm not super experienced with FX but i did used to use a phenom iix6 1055t which has a similar max temp and is on the same AM3 socket as your FX

i managed to overclock it to 3.8ghz (from 3.3ghz) with some core multipliers and a little extra voltage + loadline calibration setting. like i mentioned before watch that JaysTwoCents video as hes overclocking the exact same CPU as you have, and be careful with voltages. You can go crazy with core multiplier but it's voltage that can damage the cpu.

aslong as you're careful with voltages and watch temps it will be fine.
go in small increments when messing with the core voltage.

ye i watched the video (cool guy btw haha 12 years old video but nice haha), and i read some things about my MB and the fx. some people try it, some people dont. But i found many people who managed it that it works, so i just go for it. if i destroy something, its just a 40 bucks pc xd. i will be carefull and follow the steps from jay. i will tell the result after that wish me luck xd