Worth to upgrade Ryzen 3600XT to Ryzen 5700X?

[Memes]

Saw that the Ryzen 5000 Series CPUs got a good performance boost like 20 FPS and I got a Radeon 5600XT and want to upgrade to a 7800XT later on so was wondering if I should start now and upgrade my CPU to the 5700X?

[Bad 💀 Motha]

What do you have now for:
> Motherboard
> RAM
> Power Supply (PSU)

Also what did you have in mind for CPU Cooling?

[Memes]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

What do you have now for:
> Motherboard
> RAM
> Power Supply (PSU)

Also what did you have in mind for CPU Cooling?

MSI B550 Gaming Edge
2x16GB
Corsair CX650M
CPU Cooler - AMD Wraith Prism

[Syad]

No, it's 5800x3d or bust

[Memes]

Originally posted by Syad:

No, it's 5800x3d or bust

Was thinking about going with the 5800X3D cause i think thats like the last good CPU on the AM4 platform

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yea I'd say aim for 5800X3D and be done on AM4; otherwise be prepared to buy what all is needed to step onto AM5.

FYI, you're going to need a decent cooler as well.

[Syad]

Originally posted by Memes:

Originally posted by Syad:

No, it's 5800x3d or bust

Was thinking about going with the 5800X3D cause i think thats like the last good CPU on the AM4 platform

The 5800x3D is still killing it and the total investment cost, given you already have everything else, is laughably small. That having said i'd first upgrade the GPU and see if you will actually be CPU limited at games you play, and wait for a discount, black friday or something. There is no rush.

(CS2 gamersnexus updated video youtube. com/watch?v=aiqojNU-RBg 18:00, it beats the 13700k)

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Couldn't pay me to use Intel right now. The money I save using AMD I put towards my NVIDIA GPU, since that too is well worth it.

But not like I'm on the very latest and greatest right now anyways as my 5800X (purchased before 5800X3D came out) and 3080 Ti does extremely well.

[pasa]

What;s the point? Just get the GPU, see how your system behaves. *If* you see that your fps is lacking and also see that cpu is at full load and is the limiting factor -- then consider a swap that will address the situation.

The "tests" that show the diff run things at unreasonably low res and gfx settings -- in the realm no sane person would use.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes could easily go with just GPU upgrade first. Ddu wipe out everything for gpus in safe mode then reboot and install latest drivers for Ryzen Chipset and also Radeon GPU

Then run some benchmarks and see how it does.

What screen res and refresh rate?

[Memes]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Yes could easily go with just GPU upgrade first. Ddu wipe out everything for gpus in safe mode then reboot and install latest drivers for Ryzen Chipset and also Radeon GPU

Then run some benchmarks and see how it does.

What screen res and refresh rate?

1080p 144hz so the 7800XT would be overkill for that so thinking about going for a 1440p 165hz afterwards as well

[Memes]

Originally posted by Syad:

Originally posted by Memes:

Was thinking about going with the 5800X3D cause i think thats like the last good CPU on the AM4 platform

The 5800x3D is still killing it and the total investment cost, given you already have everything else, is laughably small. That having said i'd first upgrade the GPU and see if you will actually be CPU limited at games you play, and wait for a discount, black friday or something. There is no rush.

(CS2 gamersnexus updated video youtube. com/watch?v=aiqojNU-RBg 18:00, it beats the 13700k)

Was thinking about either go 7800XT and bring it to my next build cause that GPU would last me a while or just settle with a 6750XT. 7800XT would be overkill for my 1080p monitor plus I think my 3600XT CPU would bottleneck big time with the 7800XT.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by Memes:

Originally posted by Syad:

The 5800x3D is still killing it and the total investment cost, given you already have everything else, is laughably small. That having said i'd first upgrade the GPU and see if you will actually be CPU limited at games you play, and wait for a discount, black friday or something. There is no rush.

(CS2 gamersnexus updated video youtube. com/watch?v=aiqojNU-RBg 18:00, it beats the 13700k)

Was thinking about either go 7800XT and bring it to my next build cause that GPU would last me a while or just settle with a 6750XT. 7800XT would be overkill for my 1080p monitor plus I think my 3600XT CPU would bottleneck big time with the 7800XT.

It will bottleneck, Zen2 processors were already bottlenecking the 2080 Ti back in 2019 and 2020, so anything with equivalent performance or higher will get bottlenecked as well. Even GamersNexus had said that it can bottleneck even at 4K resolution.

I would suggest getting a 5800X3D over the 5700X at this point because there isn't much of a reason to go for the lower end SKUs other than price.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by 尺．し工几句ヨ尺:

Originally posted by Memes:

Was thinking about either go 7800XT and bring it to my next build cause that GPU would last me a while or just settle with a 6750XT. 7800XT would be overkill for my 1080p monitor plus I think my 3600XT CPU would bottleneck big time with the 7800XT.

It will bottleneck, Zen2 processors were already bottlenecking the 2080 Ti back in 2019 and 2020, so anything with equivalent performance or higher will get bottlenecked as well. Even GamersNexus had said that it can bottleneck even at 4K resolution.

I would suggest getting a 5800X3D over the 5700X at this point because there isn't much of a reason to go for the lower end SKUs other than price.

People say this way too much without actually knowing what a CPU bottleneck even looks like though. A more powerful GPU is not going to automatically bottleneck certain CPUs; it depends what you are running and how demanding the app or game is. Plus you can alleviate some of that by capping the FPS; since higher FPS puts a higher demand on the CPU, not just the GPU alone.

If the OP really needs a better CPU for what he/she uses the PC for, it will be revealed to them when they start seeing the CPU usage going above 80-90% and the GPU not being used to the fullest like it should be.

[Illusion of Progress]

I don't think upgrading from one CPU generation to the next is very worthwhile. Most people don't that with GPUs, let alone CPUs. Even though Zen 2 to Zen 3 was a nice uplift, I wouldn't even find it worth it there.

I agree with some other replies, either go with the 5800X3D (or 5600X3D if you have a Micro Center nearby with some in stock) or nothing at all. While the 5800X3D is also Zen 3, its performance in games on average is a similar to the Ryzen 7000 series, so you would be looking at two effective generations of performance uplift for games.

Otherwise, you could sit with the 3600XT and then wait for the next CPU generations coming and then decide to move to either one of them (or to possibly reduced prices on the previous, and right now latest, stuff).

I understand a 7800 XT might seem a bit high for Zen 2 but every system has a bottleneck all of the time anyway, so I wouldn't fuss over "it can bottleneck". Yes, it can... and so do Core i9 13900Ks and 7800X3Ds, so that loses a bit of its meaning.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Illusion of Progress:

I don't think upgrading from one CPU generation to the next is very worthwhile. Most people don't that with GPUs, let alone CPUs. Even though Zen 2 to Zen 3 was a nice uplift, I wouldn't even find it worth it there.

I agree with some other replies, either go with the 5800X3D (or 5600X3D if you have a Micro Center nearby with some in stock) or nothing at all. While the 5800X3D is also Zen 3, its performance in games on average is a similar to the Ryzen 7000 series, so you would be looking at two effective generations of performance uplift for games.

Otherwise, you could sit with the 3600XT and then wait for the next CPU generations coming and then decide to move to either one of them (or to possibly reduced prices on the previous, and right now latest, stuff).

I understand a 7800 XT might seem a bit high for Zen 2 but every system has a bottleneck all of the time anyway, so I wouldn't fuss over "it can bottleneck". Yes, it can... and so do Core i9 13900Ks and 7800X3Ds, so that loses a bit of its meaning.

Yes that be true if maybe you were talking about moving from say a 12th gen to 13th gen i7.

There is a HUGE difference between even a 3800X vs 5800X3D. And if you are primarily gaming; then yes that 5800X3D will be very worth it.

He/she can sit on that 3600 CPU and play the waiting game. But they will just have to upgrade Motherboard and RAM later anyways regardless.

At least the 5800X3D is a viable upgrade still and will be fine for many years to come.

3600 was kind of crap from the start as it was only a budget mid-range CPU.
The XT was just a money grabbing refresh and didn't really improve much except the TDP and clocks, slightly.

3600 is like having a 10th Gen i3 or i5; where as the 5800X3D is upwards of 12th Gen i7/i9 performance.