recommendation for a MSI afterburner alternative?

[ShatteredPumpkin]

been running into more and more games where MSI afterburner doesnt work anymore
what program would you guys recommend as a alternative?

[r.linder]

emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:

I had the impression CS:GO (I guess CS2 now) purposely sabotages any kind of ability to overlay things onto it. I thought it was them like trying to stop any application from doing that stuff because then however Afterburner did it, other people could use the same technique to make cheat tools?

AMD Anti-Lag is also causing CS2 players to get VAC banned, just poorly developed junk as usual

[ShatteredPumpkin]

尺．し工几句ヨ尺님이 먼저 게시:

ShatteredPumpkin님이 먼저 게시:

and if i have said peformance issues like in cs2 and i wanna optimize my settings and not having to alt tab every few seconds? XD

You still don't need an overlay to do that, just look at the screen, you'll know if it's smooth or not

Games like CS:GO will always have stutters when frames drop for any reason, that's why you cap the framerate

still want a alternative for said reason XD i wanna monitor temps and usage

[r.linder]

ShatteredPumpkin님이 먼저 게시:

尺．し工几句ヨ尺님이 먼저 게시:

You still don't need an overlay to do that, just look at the screen, you'll know if it's smooth or not

Games like CS:GO will always have stutters when frames drop for any reason, that's why you cap the framerate

still want a alternative for said reason XD i wanna monitor temps and usage

You can leave hwinfo64 minimized and check later for max temps, and as long as usage isn't hitting 100%, it means nothing whether it's 9% or 99%
you'll know if it hits 100% because it's usually accompanied by a major stutter, freeze, microstutters up the whazoo, etc.

Not all games work with overlays regardless, alternatives won't work in those cases because none are allowed

Regardless, if you just bought the system then unless it was poorly built and set up, there will literally be no performance issues so you have no reason to worry about trying to be able to stare at an overlay instead of actually trying to play the games you bought the system for

[ShatteredPumpkin]

尺．し工几句ヨ尺님이 먼저 게시:

ShatteredPumpkin님이 먼저 게시:

still want a alternative for said reason XD i wanna monitor temps and usage

You can leave hwinfo64 minimized and check later for max temps, and as long as usage isn't hitting 100%, it means nothing whether it's 9% or 99%
you'll know if it hits 100% because it's usually accompanied by a major stutter, freeze, microstutters up the whazoo, etc.

Not all games work with overlays regardless, alternatives won't work in those cases because none are allowed

Regardless, if you just bought the system then unless it was poorly built and set up, there will literally be no performance issues so you have no reason to worry about trying to be able to stare at an overlay instead of actually trying to play the games you bought the system for

seen multiple people using said programs to monitor their stuff in games that arent MSI afterburner bro its why i even made this post...

[emoticorpse]

ShatteredPumpkin님이 먼저 게시:

尺．し工几句ヨ尺님이 먼저 게시:

You can leave hwinfo64 minimized and check later for max temps, and as long as usage isn't hitting 100%, it means nothing whether it's 9% or 99%
you'll know if it hits 100% because it's usually accompanied by a major stutter, freeze, microstutters up the whazoo, etc.

Not all games work with overlays regardless, alternatives won't work in those cases because none are allowed

Regardless, if you just bought the system then unless it was poorly built and set up, there will literally be no performance issues so you have no reason to worry about trying to be able to stare at an overlay instead of actually trying to play the games you bought the system for

seen multiple people using said programs to monitor their stuff in games that arent MSI afterburner bro its why i even made this post...

Why didn't you ask them?

[ShatteredPumpkin]

emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:

ShatteredPumpkin님이 먼저 게시:

seen multiple people using said programs to monitor their stuff in games that arent MSI afterburner bro its why i even made this post...

Why didn't you ask them?

no need since its the actual thing of the post which everyone seems to ignore tho XD

[emoticorpse]

ShatteredPumpkin님이 먼저 게시:

emoticorpse님이 먼저 게시:

Why didn't you ask them?

no need since its the actual thing of the post which everyone seems to ignore tho XD

Well, if you have any more questions you want to ask us on anything else you've seen other people doing feel free to create more threads about them.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

What all were you wanting to display in the overlay (OSD) ?
But yea MSI AB probably not good to use with AMD Adrenaline GPU Software.
You can still use RTSS by itself though. There other apps that work with that.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

What all were you wanting to display in the overlay (OSD) ?
But yea MSI AB probably not good to use with AMD Adrenaline GPU Software.
You can still use RTSS by itself though. There other apps that work with that.

first comment already stated its a MSI gtx1080ti not amd ,.,

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Ok then try being up RTSS and within there it should have a Display mode for OSD such as Vector 3D vs Rastor 3D try changing this. Then also change the following:
Detection Level = Low
Stealth Mode = On
Show own statistics = On

Then load up a game and see if displays properly.

You can control what else displays in the OSD via MSI AB Settings > OSD > select an option such as CPU or GPU Temp and enable the check mark next to its sensor name and tick the OSD box for it.

If extras display in OSD you do not want go back into MSI AB settings and uncheck the sensor name.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Ok then try being up RTSS and within there it should have a Display mode for OSD such as Vector 3D vs Rastor 3D try changing this. Then also change the following:
Detection Level = Low
Stealth Mode = On
Show own statistics = On

Then load up a game and see if displays properly.

You can control what else displays in the OSD via MSI AB Settings > OSD > select an option such as CPU or GPU Temp and enable the check mark next to its sensor name and tick the OSD box for it.

If extras display in OSD you do not want go back into MSI AB settings and uncheck the sensor name.

bro thats pretty mouch the only way MSI AB works XD if riva aint installed it wont display anything ingame

[Pocahawtness]

ShatteredPumpkin님이 먼저 게시:

尺．し工几句ヨ尺님이 먼저 게시:

If you're using AMD hardware, especially GPU, then use the overlay from the driver software, since Afterburner can also bug out in conflict with AMD's software, I had problems with it back in 2019~2020 when I had the 5700-XT

Other than that I just wouldn't worry about it because ultimately if performance appears to be as expected and there's no glaring performance issues then there isn't anything to be concerned about. The actual numbers mean nothing, what matters is how the gameplay looks to the eye

and if i have said peformance issues like in cs2 and i wanna optimize my settings and not having to alt tab every few seconds? XD

Don't suppose you happen to have spare monitor do you? I mean, I know it's not much of a solution, but just to get you out of a bind.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Yes but some games will need you to change the settings as I've stated above so if you understand that then you should have it working fine. I have no troubles using it in all the major games that have come out in past 15 years or so.

The Vector vs Rastor is the main setting that some games will require you to change so that RTSS or the OSD doesn't crash the game

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Scary👻Pocah님이 먼저 게시:

ShatteredPumpkin님이 먼저 게시:

and if i have said peformance issues like in cs2 and i wanna optimize my settings and not having to alt tab every few seconds? XD

Don't suppose you happen to have spare monitor do you? I mean, I know it's not much of a solution, but just to get you out of a bind.

dont have a second one i dont have the space for it my room is pretty small my table is already pretty small so a second one aint an option for me also dont have the money currently to spend money for not necessary things

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Bad 💀 Motha님이 먼저 게시:

Yes but some games will need you to change the settings as I've stated above so if you understand that then you should have it working fine. I have no troubles using it in all the major games that have come out in past 15 years or so.

The Vector vs Rastor is the main setting that some games will require you to change so that RTSS or the OSD doesn't crash the game

bro again its not crashing my games XD