Is DRAMless SSD worth on boot + storage?

[Memes]

Want to upgrade to a 2TB NVMe SSD so my choices were the Lexar NM790, Solidigm P41 Plus, and WD SN770 and found these all have no DRAM and I read it was mixed that nowadays it just uses your PC Ram or dont get a DRAMless SSD cause read and write would be random but I want to make sure to get the most out of my SSD so what would be your guys recommendation under $100?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

At hundred dollars you have better options.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VZWzK8/crucial-p5-plus-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p5pssd8

[Viking2121]

Its worth to still use dramless SSD for boot, windows or linux typically only ever access the drive in small bursts, so normal use I'd say you'd be fine, and still would benefit from it, even if you install all you games and stuff on it, you most likley wont be hammering the SSD much for it to matter to much. Of course if you can fork out for a better SSD, do it.

[Memes]

Originally posted by Syad:

Originally posted by Stacked:

my old NVMe drive

More writes needs a better ssd, and dramless is a budget solution with corners cut everywhere, especially, god forbid, QLC, blaming reduced performance on dram is a case of correlation does not imply causation, although it is indeed a possible factor. Your ssd is probably very beat up, have you tried Secure Erasing it?

https://www.anandtech.com/show/2738/8

tbh might need to do that cause SSD is acting up a little bit plus Hard Disk Sentinel said it was at 93% health not a big deal but hopefully clean install might fix its problems

[Dave136]

I have a Samsung 980 PRO for OS drive but the review of this Lexar NM790 4 TB basically says in real use it's faster for boot and only synthetic tests show some slower results. I bought one for a second game storage drive and it's great so far. Very fast copy and loading times.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/lexar-nm790-4-tb/

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Stacked:

Originally posted by Syad:

Well, then you are in the clear, provided you install it as a secondary drive. lack of dram doesn't affect sht but writing, which you aren't going to do much on a gaming drive. Personally i'd still go for the 4tb nm790, it has great value, or the 2tb samsung because the price difference is so small, but a 2tb dramless will do just fine.

2tb will fill up in an instant.

If you're modding games you're actually going to be doing a lot of writes. Those 4k texture packs and asset replacements aren't small in size.

Again that's something very temporary; like when you are downloading files.
Extracting mods won't be any different, it won't affect how everything actually runs in the end. All that might happen there is if extracting very large files it will have a burst speed and then slow down after a while to a more steady write speed. Still be faster then most SATA SSDs.

[Agent]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Originally posted by Stacked:

If you're modding games you're actually going to be doing a lot of writes. Those 4k texture packs and asset replacements aren't small in size.

Again that's something very temporary; like when you are downloading files.
Extracting mods won't be any different, it won't affect how everything actually runs in the end. All that might happen there is if extracting very large files it will have a burst speed and then slow down after a while to a more steady write speed. Still be faster then most SATA SSDs.

Mods require version control each time there is an update, so you don't just do it once.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Originally posted by Stacked:

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Again that's something very temporary; like when you are downloading files.
Extracting mods won't be any different, it won't affect how everything actually runs in the end. All that might happen there is if extracting very large files it will have a burst speed and then slow down after a while to a more steady write speed. Still be faster then most SATA SSDs.

Mods require version control each time there is an update, so you don't just do it once.

You don't get any of this at all do you???

Nothing regarding games or mods involves CONSTANT DRIVE WRITES.

Like when you record and editing videos for example, yea you need a decent SSD for that. Nothing about games is going to need those more expensive decent drives.

Now if you using a game recorder or replay video capture method while playing games, then use you need a decent ssd such as Samsung 990, 980, 970... or WD Black but if the video capture is going to C Drive then you can just use that better drive for OS Drive. Your games drive could still be a high capacity but dram-less ssd to better bit your budget needs.

[Agent]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Originally posted by Stacked:

Mods require version control each time there is an update, so you don't just do it once.

You don't get any of this at all do you???

Nothing regarding games or mods involves CONSTANT DRIVE WRITES.

Like when you record and editing videos for example, yea you need a decent SSD for that. Nothing about games is going to need those more expensive decent drives.

Now if you using a game recorder or replay video capture method while playing games, then use you need a decent ssd such as Samsung 990, 980, 970... or WD Black but if the video capture is going to C Drive then you can just use that better drive for OS Drive. Your games drive could still be a high capacity but dram-less ssd to better bit your budget needs.

Well I still do continuous writes as well since I often do 1440p game recordings with high bitrate for benchmarking etc.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Then record to C Drive, not the slower Games drive. After a certain amount of recording you can always move the videos to another drive.

Always use more then 1 ssd in the system and don't use dram-less ssd as the OS drive

[Agent]

Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Then record to C Drive, not the slower Games drive.

Always use more then 1 ssd in the system and don't use dram-less ssd as the OS drive

I am on DRAM now, but before I thought DRAMless would be enough, but it wasn't

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Well yes that's probably because you were using dram-less ssd as an OS Drive. Avoid ever doing that. For a storage or games drive its fine.