Let's Hope the Next GPUs Don't Have This Flaw

[GOD RAYS ON ULTRA™]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-4090-16-pin-connector-melted-after-one-year-of-usage#xenforo-comments-3822554

This is such a bad design. Nvidia, you can do better.

[nullable]

Well it's not specified whether the user was using the original version of the connector or an updated version, but given the timing it would seem like an older version. It seems like an issue that's been largely resolved with revised cables, and users should either make a point of upgrading the cable or be prepared to go through a lengthy RMA process when their-known-defective-original-recipe-prone-to-failure cables do as advertised.

[Tiberius]

There have been several cases in the last couple months, and yea nvidia shouldv adopted more fail-safe designs for its cards

[_I_]

thats a cheap psu issue, using wires too thin for the power/current needed for the gpu
or maybe cheaping out too much on the amp connectors
wrong plastics or pins too thin to support the power needed

if it was the connector on the gpu itself, heat would unsolder the pins before melting the connector
so odds are its the psu mfg at fault

[Monk]

引用自 _I_：

thats a cheap psu issue, using wires too thin for the power/current needed for the gpu
or maybe cheaping out too much on the amp connectors
wrong plastics or pins too thin to support the power needed

if it was the connector on the gpu itself, heat would unsolder the pins before melting the connector
so odds are its the psu mfg at fault

It's the connector not quite in and/or custom cables usually, it's being redesigned for next gen as its kind of poop, cabkemod had a bunch of issues and they replaced the gpu's of cards that died for victims where their cable or usually 90 degree connector was to blame, nothing to do with psu, as, surprise those with £2000 gpu's don't tend to run cheap psu's.

Another issye with the design is one I gave on cablemod custom cable, it gas a habbit of registering power wrong or some rubbish and cutting power, luckily my cable / card has not melted but it does cut out and should be receiving their updated cable design any day now.

Im running an evga P2 1600w psu.

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引用自 ULTRAWOKETRYHARDCRINGE：

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-4090-16-pin-connector-melted-after-one-year-of-usage#xenforo-comments-3822554

RIP RTX 4090. Epic failure of design, shame on Nvidia. Let the buyer's remorse commence 👀

This very very old news covered well over a year ago by many major news and youtube outlets dating back to the RTX 3090 and RTX 3090 Ti. This NOT new things at all. Steve at Gamer's nexus even did something like 5 or 6 videos on the subject and found out it's only because people don't insert the connector all the way into the slot. It's not a big deal and it's certainly not something worth making headlines over today, several years later.

[Illusion of Progress]

Did you read it before declaring "nothing new"? Yes, it has happened before, but then reports of it sorted of dulled down for quite a while, so the "new" thing the article is floating is "can it still be an issue, just one that takes time to show itself" and you'd gather that much if you read it. Though, if it's just been one social media report and a reputable outlet ran with that to make an article, then I would agree that seems premature; wait until there's more to it, surely?

I think you may be confusing the issues with the RTX 3090/Ti as there was a different issue with them "burning up". I think the FE of the RTX 3090 Ti may have used the 12V power connector the RTX 40 series uses, but otherwise I believe the RTX 3090/Ti typically used three (or sometimes two) 8 pin connectors. The common issue with the RTX 3090/Ti was different and I believe came down to certain manufacturers not having good enough capacitors on the backside of the GPU itself and those were burning up? Can't remember exactly, but it was certainly a different issue to the 12V power connector issue the RTX 4090 was facing.

[Lone Wolf]

there was a video on youtube JayzTwoCents he was talking about this and said Nvidia new about this from day one and the power pins are caped at only 450 watts max load.

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引用自 Illusion of Progress：

Did you read it before declaring "nothing new"? Yes, it has happened before, but then reports of it sorted of dulled down for quite a while, so the "new" thing the article is floating is "can it still be an issue, just one that takes time to show itself" and you'd gather that much if you read it. Though, if it's just been one social media report and a reputable outlet ran with that to make an article, then I would agree that seems premature; wait until there's more to it, surely?

The issue with your comment and this news post is there is nothing new. Like I already said before: The entire problem and issue with this is only because people don't insert the connector all the way into the slot. If people insert the connector all the way into the slot then it never melts even years later. Steve at gamer's nexus found this information for us. So no: There is nothing "new" to add to this. It's already been investigated and resolved. Anyone that has any of these connectors (yes the 3090, 3090 Ti, and RTX 4090 all use the same connector and it's rated for the same power load on all 3 cards).

It's just some random tech website trying to create fake news where no news exists.

[Missing Spartan]

引用自 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊：

The entire problem and issue with this is only because people don't insert the connector all the way into the slot.

It's been found that the cable can work it's self out of the card and not be fully inserted by very little force. So if you do make sure to plug it in all the way it can become unseated when cable managing. The Design was bad don't use Nvidia's PR spin.

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引用自 Missing Spartan：

It's been found that the cable can work it's self out of the card and not be fully inserted by very little force. So if you do make sure to plug it in all the way it can become unseated when cable managing.

Yes that was also disclosed. Just re-seat it again when done cable managing and it shouldn't be an issue.

引用自 Missing Spartan：

The Design was bad don't use Nvidia's PR spin.

Nvidia did not create the connector or it's design. I'm not sure who did but it is part of the PCI-Express standard for new power supplies. Nvidia was just the first to adopt it but in the future all video cards will be using it. Intel and AMD cards will also use it.

Both the socket on the video cards and the connector on the power supply side are not Nvidia's design.

[_I_]

its not even the connectors mfg thats at fault, they should list the proper max current for the connectors, its the psu or cablemod or modded connectors mfg fault for picking ones not rated for the job

[Ralf]

I still believe that the melting could be caused by unbalanced load across the pins. If the pins wouldn't be soldered together on the connector and PCB, but instead split across phases maybe it would help?

Or the issues is that people are insanely bending cables for cable management.

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引用自 Ralf：

I still believe that the melting could be caused by unbalanced load across the pins. If the pins wouldn't be soldered together on the connector and PCB, but instead split across phases maybe it would help?

Or the issues is that people are insanely bending cables for cable management.

There is no need for speculation. Steve @ Gamer's Nexus did a deep-dive in-depth including x-raying the connectors to determine the cause and there is a whole video series about it on their channel explaining exactly what causes it and how to avoid it from happening.

Here's the video for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig2px7ofKhQ

This was all posted, discussed, and resolved 10 months ago. As I've been trying to say: This is "old news" by now.

[shiel]

引用自 ULTRAWOKETRYHARDCRINGE：

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-4090-16-pin-connector-melted-after-one-year-of-usage#xenforo-comments-3822554

RIP RTX 4090. Epic failure of design, shame on Nvidia. Let the buyer's remorse commence 👀

You're almost a year late to the party. This has been covered to death and so long as you are using a quality cable, there is no reason for this to happen so long as you ensure the plug is all the way in.

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引用自 shiel：

so long as you ensure the plug is all the way in.

This can be applied to many things in life: Usually things work best when inserted completely.