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somebody who know what they looking for always buy the right parts,
but for us? just upgrade all, why we worked 9-4 if we not entertain ourselves
When picking DDR5 RAM for AMD system the 6000 MHz 30 CL is better and more stable ratio.
This sounds like you don't need to change anything yet for what your needs are.
First and second gen Ryzen were over-hyped and not great for games due to the unpredictable core-to-core latency. It'd definitely be a limiting factor if you were to just swap the GPU for an RTX 5070 when they launch.
Given your above sentiment; I'd personally suggest putting what you would spend on any upgrades into your savings and save up until you have the budget to build a whole new system at a target level that would fit what you want to have budgeted and/or until around mid-year next year when there is more availability / more models/segments.
For example by mid-year we may see a 9600X3D sku or some sales on the 9800X3D that could bring that into your budget if you've been saving up for 6 months. You'll likely have some more options for less expensive X870 boards available; etc.
Bottom line is that if you are currently still satisfied with the performance of your current system in the games you play then why do you feel the need to upgrade anything? Start saving a small amount each week/month now to set aside for a new build budget; then when newer games start having trouble running or you find you aren't satisfied with the quality/graphics settings/level you are able to run, then look at building a new rig with the budget that you've saved up.
1. Get a 5700X3D as it should be ~200 euros (?) and add a Thermalright Phantom Spirit/Peerless Assassin which should be ~40 euro? I told you a year ago that a 5800X3D was a Golden ticket and that since you are on a first generation Ryzen, you are in the PRIME position for someone to make the most out of AM4's offerings, but you ignored it saying you had Ryzen 7000 series plans and that 7000 > 5000 according to you, even though only the 7800X3D was meaningfully faster than the 5800X3D in games and you could save 2/3 the parts cost doing that
2. Get a 9800X3D (I don't see much of a point in the 9700X for gaming for a DIY, especially if "money is no problem").
3. Keep using what you have now if it's meeting your performance needs, and save in the meantime.
Those would be the three choices I'd be looking at if I had those parts.
that whati said i will change cpu ram and motherboard. the quesiton is if ido it now or keep it utnil it die and then change them.
And no i will not grt 5800xd or any othet 5000 cpu. they released in 2020 and now we have 2024 if i wanted it then i would had got it then. Which means that i get anew cpu soon it will be a 9000.
Well your OP didn't really exude the "money is no object" notion and comes off as you are debating between either doing a CPU and motherboard upgrade OR doing a GPU upgrade; but not considering both as a new build. Secondly, you noted if looking at an upgraded board the "cheapest board in your country" is the MSI X870 so it seemed like you were somewhat budget conscious.
If money isn't a limiting factor for you then no I'd not upgrade right now and I'd wait until after CES and then get a decent X870 board, some decent DDR5 6000 CL30/36/36/96, either the 9800X3D or 9900X3D depending on benchmarks of the latter, and an RTX 5080.
Unless AMD found a way to increase the clock speeds of the upcoming Ryzen 9s well above that of the 9800X3D to garner such better performance over it (which would suggest the 9800X3D is intentionally held back, but the fact that it can be overclocked and doesn't have a massive headroom of untapped performance suggests this isn't the case), then I don't even see it matching it on average, let alone outperforming it.
It's rumored that the Ryzen 9s will again have v-cache on a single CCD, not both, and this is reasonable to presume in my mind anyway because if not, it doubles the additional cost to AMD (versus adding v-cache to just one CCD) over the vanilla non-X3D models, but the additional benefit to performance by adding it to both cores instead of one would likely be margin of error outside of niche edge cases since... few games need more than 8 cores to show a real difference. In other words, it'd make them worse of a value when they are already the worse value. Maybe there's room to do that for the x950X3D since it's a true "money is no object" enthusiast part, but I'm not sure the x900X3D is justifying its existence as-is, let alone if it were to become an even worse value. I don't think there's a technical reason preventing AMD from putting v-cache on both CCDs; no, I think it's a calculated business choice for now. Maybe I'm wrong though.
The x900 SKU in particular is also simply going to be doomed to the reality that it has less cores per CCD than the Ryzen 7 tier below it, so the cross CCD latency can hit it earlier at times (and where it doesn't suffer from this, that suggests it's not crossing the need for more than 6 cores which means... its 12 core advantage over 8 cores obviously evaporates).
I basically see the 9950X3D and 9900X3D comparing to the 9800X3D the same way the 7950X3D and 7900X3D compared to the 7800X3D, give or take.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marginal_utility
Your processor is almost 8 years old. Also don't forget that games are memory demanding. For the same reason Zen 1(+) performance scales with better RAM so quickly, while the best of the best X3Ds don't due to L3 cache.
Task maneger may not show 100% CPU usage, but the extra cores are handy and you can see that there are situations where they are used (partially). At this point even the Intel 300 (latest pentium) will be able to achieve 60FPS, but sttuters are incredibly bad.
The GPU is basically brand new.
The 7000 series didn't bring much new to the table. Yes, the 8000 series is about to be released, but remember AMD is leaving the high end GPU market, which suggests to me they probably will do another re-release, but focused on more cost effective production methods.
What about Nvidia? We have yet to see. If this is another RTX that doesn't bring any raster performance improvements, just ray tracing or tensor cores then it's a big question mark if it is worth it.
Also for a new PC, why X870 and not B650 chipset?