PC build recommendation
Hi so I am going to purchase a new pc but there is soo much to choose from
idk if i shall go for nvidia or amd,sli or crossfire or none of it,water cooling-fans,
motherboard, cpu, pc case and so on
note 2 things
1 - dont care about the price
2 - those who just say buy THIS product cos its the MOST EXPENSIVE , and fan boys of either amd,nvidia or w/e pls be honest and fair
i just want a BEAST pc
p.s. can spend up to 5-6000 eu
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to help pick a gaming cpu
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-4.html

to help pick a gaming gpu
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-5.html

current value leaders
cpu: i5 4690k
gpu: gtx970

for gaming, 8g of ram is fine
make sure its 1600+ cl9- 1.5v- kit

mobo: any z97 will allow overclockig on 4690k
most will support crossfire, will need to get a better one for sli support

cpu cooler: 212evo for mild oc, h80-105+ for higher
but currently 4690k does not need to be overclocked for any game

ssd/hdd: quality 240+g ssd and/or 1-2tb hdd 7200rpm 64mb cache seagate or wd

power supply: 550w for any single gpu, 750+w for sli capable with gtx970s and i5

case: any with bottom mount power supply, top fans, usb 3.0 ports


if you are doing streaming or lots of video editing, i7 and 16g of ram will help
but for gaming it will not help at all


sli capable, under €1200euro
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/kR7VCJ

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€218.34 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€107.98 @ Hardwareversand)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€106.89 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€69.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€98.33 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€83.88 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (€315.73 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Silverstone RL01B-W-USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€45.52 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€86.16 @ Hardwareversand)
Total: €1132.73
Laatst bewerkt door _I_; 11 dec 2014 om 0:32
If you are thinking of building your own check this out:
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

You are welcome to be a fool with your money if you wish. It is my opinion that if you want to spend that much on a PC you should know what you are doing, build it yourself and have a reasonable purpose for all that performance that actually makes sense.

You can build a killer gaming PC for far less than 5000-6000 Euro and bank the rest or give it to charity or whatever would be a wiser use than spending on perfromance you won't use.

Personally I'm a fan of AMD but I also believe the Intel i7 and i7 Extreme CPUs are good though too expensive for me.

The build by _|_ above is solid but I'd take a i7, 32GB of RAM and a GTX 980 in there if I could.

Personally I'd recommend a AMD FX 8370E CPU, high performance Noctua air-cooler to fit case (D15 if it will fit, it's 165mm) or watercooler of your choice, ASRock 990FX Extreme9 socket AM3+ motherboard, R9 290X GPU or GTX 980 ti (which is not released yet), 32GB of RAM, 512GB SSD, 3TB HDD, Windows Professional and all the other stuff you need to fill in.

However what is best is that you learn what you are doing and do a little project and research yourself to make sure you know what everything is and are happy with it.

Here are some good links for comparing GPUs. GFLOPS are important like CPU GHz but are not the full story of performance. A good GPU will make the most difference for your gaming.

Nvidia GeForce:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units

AMD Radeon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units

You may also want to look into virtual reality, multiple monitors, projectors and projector arrays if you really want to spend a ton. That can get very expensive much over your budget however. It can really be a rip-off as well.

The best is usually to go for single monitor as big and high resolution as is a reasonable deal in comparison to what else is available. Then get a system to power that with some to spare for the future and with room for upgrades if required and where possible.
There is nothing beast about AMD unless you count beastly power consumption, more then 2 years old tech with no future.
If you have money to burn and want beastly rig that can hold up well for years then something like this:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TMGQBm

Those parts are not picked because they are most expensive but because of their quality.
This rig can also handle 4K monitor fairly well but 1440p 144 Hz Asus ROG Swift would work with best performance.


Origineel geplaatst door _I_:
to help pick a gaming cpu
{LINK VERWIJDERD}

to help pick a gaming gpu
{LINK VERWIJDERD}

current value leaders
cpu: i5 4690k
gpu: gtx970

for gaming, 8g of ram is fine
make sure its 1600+ cl9- 1.5v- kit

mobo: any z97 will allow overclockig on 4690k
most will support crossfire, will need to get a better one for sli support

cpu cooler: 212evo for mild oc, h80-105+ for higher
but currently 4690k does not need to be overclocked for any game

ssd/hdd: quality 240+g ssd and/or 1-2tb hdd 7200rpm 64mb cache seagate or wd

power supply: 550w for any single gpu, 750+w for sli capable with gtx970s and i5

case: any with bottom mount power supply, top fans, usb 3.0 ports


if you are doing streaming or lots of video editing, i7 and 16g of ram will help
but for gaming it will not help at all


sli capable, under €1200euro
{LINK VERWIJDERD}

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€218.34 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€107.98 @ Hardwareversand)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (€106.89 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€69.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€98.33 @ Home of Hardware DE)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€83.88 @ Pixmania DE)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card (€315.73 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Silverstone RL01B-W-USB 3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€45.52 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€86.16 @ Hardwareversand)
Total: €1132.73
im sry u live in DE?

Ok thanks for your advices and I got it,though forgot to mention i need a beast ( not to THROW it 2 years later) since pc gaming has made a huge leap and the next one will be after 2-3 years i suppose
i will purchase THIS pc
Cpu - i7-5960x 8 core 3.0GHz
Gpu - 3x 4096MB GeForce GTX980 Triple-SLI
64 GB [8x 8GB] DDR4-2133 RAM
250 GB SSD + 6,0 TB hard disk drive
Motherboard - MSI X99S Gaming 9 ACK
Power Supply - 1000 W Bequiet Dark Power Pro 10 CM
Case - Haven't decided yet although should be big and beautiful to satisfy my principle

thanks for your response,this pc was already on my mind but i just had to ask cos i needed to know if u would recommend something even more powerful but no,i guess this is it
the reason why i use triple sli is that i will get the option to upgrade my sli cards whenever i want at anytime, the cpu is powerful enough,still thinking of downgrading RAM to 32 ddr4 since 64 too much i know and as for the HDD and SSD i think 250 gb is enough for my OS and 6tb is enough for gaming library
ty
Laatst bewerkt door rotNdude; 11 dec 2014 om 10:13
Try checking out a Cooler Master Cosmos II. :B1:
Origineel geplaatst door Black Mambo № 5@DA:Inquisition:
Try checking out a Cooler Master Cosmos II. :B1:
is it better?
Depends mate, is there any specific chassis you have selected/short-listed so far?
Origineel geplaatst door Black Mambo № 5@DA:Inquisition:
Depends mate, is there any specific chassis you have selected/short-listed so far?
what do u mean precisely?
That beast will be some heat and noise generator without watercooling (and even then) xd

But watercooling 3-way sli must be a PITA. I wouldn't know, can only dream of such things.
Origineel geplaatst door rojimboo:
That beast will be some heat and noise generator without watercooling (and even then) xd

But watercooling 3-way sli must be a PITA. I wouldn't know, can only dream of such things.
ok thanks for the advice yeah watercooling,forgot to mention it
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Origineel geplaatst door Black Mambo № 5@DA:Inquisition:
Depends mate, is there any specific chassis you have selected/short-listed so far?
what do u mean precisely?
I mean you asked is it any better, but better than what? So that depends when you have any specific chassis short-listed.

Personally though, I love it and I have it. It's been a wonderful investment for me.
Has absolutely stunning looks(subjective opinion) and is an ultra tower with tons of modular options for at least Quad-Radiators(considering you would go with Tri-SLI liquid-cooling). And not to mention impeccable durability on both interior and exterior parts.
Although it is like couple of years old chassis model. But yeah it's one hell of a chassis. Stands out rather nicely against competitors, if you could even call them that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9e4KF0uHKo
Laatst bewerkt door Black Mambo № 5; 11 dec 2014 om 9:25
Origineel geplaatst door Black Mambo № 5@DA:Inquisition:
Origineel geplaatst door ShadoWalkeR:
what do u mean precisely?
I mean you asked is it any better, but better than what? So that depends when you have any specific chassis short-listed.

Personally though, I love it and I have it. It's been a wonderful investment for me.
Has absolutely stunning looks(subjective opinion) and is an ultra tower with tons of modular options for at least Quad-Radiators(considering you would go with Tri-SLI liquid-cooling). And not to mention impeccable durability on both interior and exterior parts.
Although it is like couple of years old chassis model. But yeah it's one hell of a chassis. Stands out rather nicely against competitors, if you could even call them that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9e4KF0uHKo
thanks <3
Most professional builders use 1200W Corsair PSU for Tri-SLI GTX 980, it's suppoused to be lower power consumption card on paper but actually it can draw quite a bit of more under full load.

64 Gb RAM is complete overkill unless you work for Pixar.

Larger then 2 Tb HDD are not most reliable and have some other issues, best to get bunch of 2 Tb drives and RAID as many as you need if you really need that kind of storage.

i7-5960x is not actually that much better then i7-4790K currently for gaming, dont expect some miracle performance compared.
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Origineel geplaatst door rojimboo:
That beast will be some heat and noise generator without watercooling (and even then) xd

But watercooling 3-way sli must be a PITA. I wouldn't know, can only dream of such things.
ok thanks for the advice yeah watercooling,forgot to mention it

Well I guess I could do a 'what if I had 5000 euros to spend' xd

EK waterblocks are good, I use them personally. They are Slovenian but ship to EU in a matter of days.

I would just get the full watercooling deal from there. So, here we go.

http://www.ekwb.com/shop/

3 x EK-FC980 GTX - Nickel vga fullcover= 3 x 110e
3 x EK-FC980 GTX Backplate - Nickel = 3 x 40e
1 x EK-Supremacy EVO - Gold cpu block= 90e
1 x EK-DBAY D5 PWM (reservoir+pump) = 152e
1 x EK Coolstream XTX 360 = 97e
12 x EK-CSQ Fitting 12/16mm G1/4 - Nickel = 12 x 5e
2 x TUBE PrimoChill PrimoFlex™ Advanced LRT™ 15,9 / 11,1mm - Pearl UV Green RETAIL 3m = 2 x 24e
2 x EK-Ekoolant UV Lime GREEN (premix 1000mL) = 2 x 7e

Total ~ 900e

outside EK

3 x Noctua NF-S12A PWM 120mm fans = 3 x 20e from a couple places

You don't have to make it UV green. But I think it looks cool xd. Especially with some UV leds.

Note! I am unsure a triple 120mm rad is enough for 3 way sli and CPU. My first intuition says nope. So would have to add another double 120mm rad into the loop. That pump is powerful enough, but even so there will be quite a bit of flow restriction due to 3-way sli.

Ah, the problems of the rich.
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Origineel geplaatst door ShadoWalkeR:
ok thanks for the advice yeah watercooling,forgot to mention it

Well I guess I could do a 'what if I had 5000 euros to spend' xd

EK waterblocks are good, I use them personally. They are Slovenian but ship to EU in a matter of days.

I would just get the full watercooling deal from there. So, here we go.

{LINK VERWIJDERD}

3 x EK-FC980 GTX - Nickel vga fullcover= 3 x 110e
3 x EK-FC980 GTX Backplate - Nickel = 3 x 40e
1 x EK-Supremacy EVO - Gold cpu block= 90e
1 x EK-DBAY D5 PWM (reservoir+pump) = 152e
1 x EK Coolstream XTX 360 = 97e
12 x EK-CSQ Fitting 12/16mm G1/4 - Nickel = 12 x 5e
2 x TUBE PrimoChill PrimoFlex™ Advanced LRT™ 15,9 / 11,1mm - Pearl UV Green RETAIL 3m = 2 x 24e
2 x EK-Ekoolant UV Lime GREEN (premix 1000mL) = 2 x 7e

Total ~ 900e

outside EK

3 x Noctua NF-S12A PWM 120mm fans = 3 x 20e from a couple places

You don't have to make it UV green. But I think it looks cool xd. Especially with some UV leds.

Note! I am unsure a triple 120mm rad is enough for 3 way sli and CPU. My first intuition says nope. So would have to add another double 120mm rad into the loop. That pump is powerful enough, but even so there will be quite a bit of flow restriction due to 3-way sli.

Ah, the problems of the rich.
im not rich lol
i am a worker/gamer (not a pro since i dont get PAID by playing games,but i enjoy playing games) going to vacations,wearing good clothes and family type
i have saved money to spend on this and the principles mentioned above are the way i live
ty for your adviced i will take furthermore analysis on everything
ty again
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