THe RTX 5000 series is gonna be a flop and heres why.

[Guldo]

If the leaks are true nvidia is coming out with a 16 pin power connector wich is devestating news for anyone that prefers nvidia over amd because that means these cards are going to be too big to fit in anyones case and over heating will also become an issue.

Now i can understand why amd is making no high end cards next gen because why even bother.

This definitly has to do with diminishing returns of shrinking the node as they arent getting the same uplift they used to so they have to make up the slack by making the cards bigger.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dutchgamer1982:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

that's your problem if you not closing games,
also if you also working using your pc then surely you can afford to pay for electricity regardless.
current energy consumption by gpu's is just fine.
not enough performance yet tho.

performance is fine.. but energy consumption is way to high
give me 4090 performance but with 250w

Then why are so many people building or buying a PC based around 13th or 14th Gen i7/i9? The power consumption is way too high.

If I had a Million $ I wouldn't buy into that platform.

[spicy little monkey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dutchgamer1982:

performance is fine.. but energy consumption is way to high
give me 4090 performance but with 250w

give me double of 4090 performance, so i can finally upgrade my screen for higher refresh rate one

Would you pay $2000 USD for it, though?

[Karumati]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von waffleciocc:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

give me double of 4090 performance, so i can finally upgrade my screen for higher refresh rate one

Would you pay $2000 USD for it, though?

For double of 4090 performance yes, for the performance it actually gives now - no

[spicy little monkey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von waffleciocc:

Would you pay $2000 USD for it, though?

For double of 4090 performance yes, for the performance it actually gives now - no

What do you use at the moment?

[Karumati]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von waffleciocc:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

For double of 4090 performance yes, for the performance it actually gives now - no

What do you use at the moment?

3090 for the time being, everything is in profile

[mtono]

my comment:
i would be interested in the rtx 5000 series, because who can say, if nvidia has been able to, to make the 16 pin adapter for the power of the grafix board from the psu working. it is not too far away from me to believe that. i say: lets see it in the near future. what else can you do?
byebye

[spicy little monkey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von secret_agent_man:

my comment:
i would be interested in the rtx 5000 series, because who can say, if nvidia has been able to, to make the 16 pin adapter for the power of the grafix board from the psu working. it is not too far away from me to believe that. i say: lets see it in the near future. what else can you do?
byebye

The 12vhpwr connector works already, as long as you plug it in and don't get close to 600w pwr from the connector

[_I_]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von waffleciocc:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von secret_agent_man:

my comment:
i would be interested in the rtx 5000 series, because who can say, if nvidia has been able to, to make the 16 pin adapter for the power of the grafix board from the psu working. it is not too far away from me to believe that. i say: lets see it in the near future. what else can you do?
byebye

The 12vhpwr connector works already, as long as you plug it in and don't get close to 600w pwr from the connector

yes, but it is not as easy to plug in correctly as it should be
comes lose too easy or does seat correctly all of the time
any stress on its connector gives potential problems

[Dutchgamer1982]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von waffleciocc:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Karumati:

give me double of 4090 performance, so i can finally upgrade my screen for higher refresh rate one

Would you pay $2000 USD for it, though?

and every 2 generations I got double the performance at the same 250W..

I ask you where is the 700 euro 4080ti that has double 2080ti performance at 250W?

a 4090 does indeed have about double that performance.
but at 2200 euro it's a serious NOPE
and at 450W again NOPE

[spicy little monkey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dutchgamer1982:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von waffleciocc:

Would you pay $2000 USD for it, though?

and every 2 generations I got double the performance at the same 250W..

I ask you where is the 700 euro 4080ti that has double 2080ti performance at 250W?

a 4090 does indeed have about double that performance.
but at 2200 euro it's a serious NOPE
and at 450W again NOPE

Nvidia wouldn't be making money with a 4080 Ti at 700.

[spicy little monkey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von _I_:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von waffleciocc:

The 12vhpwr connector works already, as long as you plug it in and don't get close to 600w pwr from the connector

yes, but it is not as easy to plug in correctly as it should be
comes lose too easy or does seat correctly all of the time
any stress on its connector gives potential problems

All of those problems are non existent with an ATX 3 power supply and standard cables

[Phénomènes Mystiques]

Lmfao, I use full towers with bays. This means I will need a full tower with no bays or a Super Tower (something I always wanted).

[Dutchgamer1982]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SuKI:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dutchgamer1982:

and every 2 generations I got double the performance at the same 250W..

I ask you where is the 700 euro 4080ti that has double 2080ti performance at 250W?

a 4090 does indeed have about double that performance.
but at 2200 euro it's a serious NOPE
and at 450W again NOPE

Nvidia wouldn't be making money with a 4080 Ti at 700.

they would :

2200 euro = price 4090.
*380 euro = Vat
*90 euro = profitmargin retailer
*450 euro = cost to make a 4090
gross profit = 1280 euro.

thats an obsee profit margin

now if that 4090 chip gets undervolted to 250w to create a 4080ti that performs between a 4080S and 4090.. it likely can be made even cheaper.

if 700 :
120 vat
30 retail margin
450 priduction cost
100 gross profit

which would be a far more normal profitmargin.

[_I_]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SuKI:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von _I_:

yes, but it is not as easy to plug in correctly as it should be
comes lose too easy or does seat correctly all of the time
any stress on its connector gives potential problems

All of those problems are non existent with an ATX 3 power supply and standard cables

no, its still the same plug on the gpu thats is the problem

[spicy little monkey]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dutchgamer1982:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SuKI:

Nvidia wouldn't be making money with a 4080 Ti at 700.

they would :

2200 euro = price 4090.
*380 euro = Vat
*90 euro = profitmargin retailer
*450 euro = cost to make a 4090
gross profit = 1280 euro.

thats an obsee profit margin

now if that 4090 chip gets undervolted to 250w to create a 4080ti that performs between a 4080S and 4090.. it likely can be made even cheaper.

if 700 :
120 vat
30 retail margin
450 priduction cost
100 gross profit

which would be a far more normal profitmargin.

Hahaahahahahahah!

4080 ti does not cost $450 to manufacture! It costs a lot more!