THe RTX 5000 series is gonna be a flop and heres why.

[Guldo]

If the leaks are true nvidia is coming out with a 16 pin power connector wich is devestating news for anyone that prefers nvidia over amd because that means these cards are going to be too big to fit in anyones case and over heating will also become an issue.

Now i can understand why amd is making no high end cards next gen because why even bother.

This definitly has to do with diminishing returns of shrinking the node as they arent getting the same uplift they used to so they have to make up the slack by making the cards bigger.

[_I_]

引用自 Sigma957：

They should do away with square power connection points. Make them round like the microphone connectors with locking clips so there is no unintentional slippage or loose linkage.

no, a solid round pin only gives a few points of contact, which is part of what caused the problems
locking clips are necessary, but the ones used on the hp 12v whatever they call it are too weak

they should ideally go to a xt120 or better style connector, that can handle 60+a per pin
a single one of those at 12v = 720w, should cover most gpus

[Karumati]

引用自 Kenshiro：

If the leaks are true nvidia is coming out with a 16 pin power connector wich is devestating news for anyone that prefers nvidia over amd because that means these cards are going to be too big to fit in anyones case and over heating will also become an issue.

Now i can understand why amd is making no high end cards next gen because why even bother.

This definitly has to do with diminishing returns of shrinking the node as they arent getting the same uplift they used to so they have to make up the slack by making the cards bigger.

Too big? Don’t buy small case perhaps?

[Dutchgamer1982]

what we need is no gain in performance but a massive drop in poweruse.
and a correction in price would be nice too.

a 5090 consuming 250W costing 1400 euro including 21% vat, and performing 10% above a 4090,
a 5580ti consuming 250W, costing 900 euro including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4090
a 5080 consuming 200W, costing 650 euro including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4080super
a 5070 consuming 180W, costing 450 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4080
a 5060 consuming 120W costing 250 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4070
a 5050 consuming 80W, costing 190 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4060


THATS the line up I want to see.,

those wattages are closer to what high end cards to low end cards for 15 years used to use.
and those prices are again the same as titans, x80ti, x80, etc. used to cost for over 15. years. with added inflation correction.

so that once more...
the low end gamers.. could get that 5060.. the mid end ones that 5070 or 5080.. the high ends that 5080ti or 5090..
and there would be a nice card that could be passively cooled as a succesor to the 1650ti

[C1REX]

引用自 Dutchgamer1982：

what we need is no gain in performance but a massive drop in poweruse.
and a correction in price would be nice too.

a 5090 consuming 250W costing 1400 euro including 21% vat, and performing 10% above a 4090,
a 5580ti consuming 250W, costing 900 euro including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4090
a 5080 consuming 200W, costing 650 euro including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4080super
a 5070 consuming 180W, costing 450 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4080
a 5060 consuming 120W costing 250 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4070
a 5050 consuming 80W, costing 190 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4060


THATS the line up I want to see.,

GPU power draw is "up to"
You can lower the power draw by undervolting or putting an FPS cap.
No chance the 5090 will cap at 250W - too much performance would be left on the table.
But it may scale well and draw 50W when playing some indie games.

[spicy little monkey]

引用自 Sigma957：

They should do away with square power connection points. Make them round like the microphone connectors with locking clips so there is no unintentional slippage or loose linkage.

Power connectors already come with locking clips and have come with them for decades.

[spicy little monkey]

引用自 Dutchgamer1982：

THATS the line up I want to see.,

And a good reason why you aren't in charge of anything like product segmentation in graphics card market.

No one wants zero performance uplift after 2+ years

[Karumati]

引用自 Dutchgamer1982：

what we need is no gain in performance but a massive drop in poweruse.
and a correction in price would be nice too.

a 5090 consuming 250W costing 1400 euro including 21% vat, and performing 10% above a 4090,
a 5580ti consuming 250W, costing 900 euro including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4090
a 5080 consuming 200W, costing 650 euro including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4080super
a 5070 consuming 180W, costing 450 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4080
a 5060 consuming 120W costing 250 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4070
a 5050 consuming 80W, costing 190 euro, including 21% vat and performing about the same as a 4060


THATS the line up I want to see.,

those wattages are closer to what high end cards to low end cards for 15 years used to use.
and those prices are again the same as titans, x80ti, x80, etc. used to cost for over 15. years. with added inflation correction.

so that once more...
the low end gamers.. could get that 5060.. the mid end ones that 5070 or 5080.. the high ends that 5080ti or 5090..
and there would be a nice card that could be passively cooled as a succesor to the 1650ti

10% above 4090 is nothing. We need 30% more at least

[skOsH♥]

The RTX 5000 series will just be the RTX 4000 series with existing features turned on, that are currently locked right now.

Team green is greedy

[Guldo]

引用自 d¢：

The RTX 5000 series will just be the RTX 4000 series with existing features turned on, that are currently locked right now.

Team green is greedy

im not gonna lie. brand loyalty is really dumb lol.

[_I_]

引用自 waffleciocc：

引用自 Sigma957：

They should do away with square power connection points. Make them round like the microphone connectors with locking clips so there is no unintentional slippage or loose linkage.

Power connectors already come with locking clips and have come with them for decades.

the 12v hp connector clips do not lock securely, they can be just pulled out with a little extra force
the 20/24pin atx, pci-e, cpu-eps connectors have clips that need to be unlatched before they can be removed

[spicy little monkey]

引用自 _I_：

引用自 waffleciocc：

Power connectors already come with locking clips and have come with them for decades.

the 12v hp connector clips do not lock securely, they can be just pulled out with a little extra force
the 20/24pin atx, pci-e, cpu-eps connectors have clips that need to be unlatched before they can be removed

Excuse me. Name 1 time where you'd even touch the cable while using the computer. It's a non issue.

[_I_]

引用自 waffleciocc：

引用自 _I_：

the 12v hp connector clips do not lock securely, they can be just pulled out with a little extra force
the 20/24pin atx, pci-e, cpu-eps connectors have clips that need to be unlatched before they can be removed

Excuse me. Name 1 time where you'd even touch the cable while using the computer. It's a non issue.

if the connector needs a guide like this, its a bad design
https://seasonic.com/pub/media/wysiwyg/feature-pics/12VHPWR-instructions.png

[The_Abortionator]

引用自 Kenshiro：

引用自 The_Abortionator：

Dude, the cards are a year out. I'm no Nvidia fan but you can't go off of rumors for a product set for holidays 2025.

GPUs have gotten so big they sell stands now lol. it makes it far more likely the rumors are true than not because the smaller the node gets the more power hungry the card gets wich means more heat wich means a bigger heatsink is needed.

Nothing you said makes sense. Period. Big cards merely existing doesn't make the rumors about a card that isn't finished being developed and won't come out till holiday 2025 magically true.

Learn critical thinking.

[The_Abortionator]

引用自 waffleciocc：

引用自 _I_：

the 12v hp connector clips do not lock securely, they can be just pulled out with a little extra force
the 20/24pin atx, pci-e, cpu-eps connectors have clips that need to be unlatched before they can be removed

Excuse me. Name 1 time where you'd even touch the cable while using the computer. It's a non issue.

Right, totally. Components in a PC never heat up and cool down over and over changing size expanding and contracting causing loose components to move.

Totally never happened before. You're so smart. A genius really. Just ignore the world around you, it isn't real. Totally.

[Bad 💀 Motha]

引用自 waffleciocc：

引用自 Sigma957：

They should do away with square power connection points. Make them round like the microphone connectors with locking clips so there is no unintentional slippage or loose linkage.

Power connectors already come with locking clips and have come with them for decades.

Making them square makes more sense.

If you take a square and a circle of the same size, which fits more stuff? The square obviously. And given the way they have done power pins on PC PSUs, the square makes more sense. Why do you think all this stuff uses connectors with a square or rectangle shape? Easier to produce for one thing but also you are able to fit more into any given space as well. Look at all the other connections. While PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse have a round connection (so did AT Keyboard before that) we've moved away from that. Only round connectors left really are things for analog audio.