3060 Ti + I5 10400f build, Performance problems.

[76561199408683264]

3060 Ti + i5 10400f build, Performance problems.
**Status:** Unresolved

**Computer Type:** Custom Build Pc

**GPU:** Galax Nvidia 3060 ti (1 Click OC)

**CPU:** Intel i5 10400f

**Motherboard:** Asus h510m-k

**RAM:** 2x8 Crucial 3200mhz Capped to 2666mhz because cpu doesn't support 3200mhz [16 gb in total]

**PSU:** Gigabyte P650B 650W

**Main drive [OS Drive]** 250 Gb lexar SSD

**Secondary [Games drive]** 500 Gb WD HDD

**Operating System & Version:** Windows 10 Pro Version 23H2

**GPU Drivers:** GRD 551

**Description of Problems**

Low fps in Almost All Games! Stutters making games unplayable, extreme fps drops, computer is laggy even when opening files, sometimes crashing (explorer.exe has stopped responding) being slow in literally everything, gpu usage drops lower than cpu while in games causing low fps.

Games that have problems are: Doom eternal, Resident evil 4 Remastered, Fortnite, Elden Ring.

No clear reason, temps are fine (no 80 degrees and higher) no clear mining running, haven't run anything sketchy

There are other minor problems:
I noticed that when moving the mouse the pc makes coil whining sounds [ONLY WHEN MOVING THE MOUSE], tried lowering mouse reporting hz, didn't help, also gpu clock speeds and usage vary when in use, gpu usage drops lower than cpu causing massive stutters and clock speeds are flunctioating under load.

Also speakers, headphones make electrical noises, weird high pitch noise whenever it's plugged in, even when browsing [unrelated probably, ground loop?]

Tried : Ddu to clean install drives, reverting nvidia drivers to version 537.58 (as recommended by others), resetting nvidia control pannel settings, turning off game mode, hardware acceleration, gpu scheduling, xbox game bar, moving games to ssd, none worked

Haven't tried : clean install of windows, don't have any spare parts to try incase a part is broken.

Note that i ran stable diffusion [ai art] on the pc, Although i did with keeping temps low and with power limits, could it have killed the gpu or any part?

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

You have very little storage space, have you filled those up too much maybe? Should leave at least 50 GB space on your boot SSD and 100 GB space on HDD so the OS can work properly.

You should be able to run that RAM on 3200 MHz with that motherboard, it`s in the specs. Have you tried to enable the XMP profile in BIOS?

Some general thoughts about this build:
Motherboard is terrible cheap garbage. PSU is terrible quality and could cause issues with GPU. Storage space is very tiny for these days.

[C1REX]

HDD alone can cause massive stutters.

https://youtu.be/DNAkCFNPa9A?si=hznwFwsZrMJ2rwfm

Another reason is no XMP activated. default 2666MT/s is too slow for some games and will add even more stutters.

There can be more reasons but I would start from testing games on a SSD (even better if it's an NVME drive)

[_I_]

Asus h510m-k

this is a major limiting factor

the cpu can support very fast ram, but the board is really choking it down

what res are you playing at?
3060ti is good for 1080p

hdd will introduce stuttering in open world or mmo games that are always loading random things, but in linear games they will be fine


the board and cpu can use 3200 ram
just enable xmp in bios

post a cpuz validation link
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
cpuz -> validate button -> submit button
it will open a browser, copy the url (address) and paste it here

[76561199408683264]

Originally posted by _I_:

Asus h510m-k

this is a major limiting factor

the cpu can support very fast ram, but the board is really choking it down

what res are you playing at?
3060ti is good for 1080p

hdd will introduce stuttering in open world or mmo games that are always loading random things, but in linear games they will be fine


the board and cpu can use 3200 ram
just enable xmp in bios

post a cpuz validation link
{LINK REMOVED}http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
cpuz -> validate button -> submit button
it will open a browser, copy the url (address) and paste it here

Can't enable xmp though i can force 3200mhz but as i said, Cpu doesn't support it so it counts as an overclock.

[_I_]

a pentium g 10105 can run 3200 ram, its not the i5 limitation or the board

just find xmp and enable the profile for 3200

[nullable]

Originally posted by _I_:

a pentium g 10105 can run 3200 ram, its not the i5 limitation or the board

just find xmp and enable the profile for 3200

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-h510m-k/techspec/

Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)

* 10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7/i9 processors support 2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz.

Seems like it is a board limitation. Although you should be able to run 3200mhz RAM at 2933mhz, but if the RAM doesn't have a 2933 profile you'd have to sort it out manually. At least the way I'm reading it.

[r.linder]

Originally posted by nullable:

Originally posted by _I_:

a pentium g 10105 can run 3200 ram, its not the i5 limitation or the board

just find xmp and enable the profile for 3200

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-h510m-k/techspec/

Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)

* 10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7/i9 processors support 2933/2800/2666/2400/2133 natively, others will run at the maximum transfer rate of DDR4 2666MHz.

Seems like it is a board limitation. Although you should be able to run 3200mhz RAM at 2933mhz, but if the RAM doesn't have a 2933 profile you'd have to sort it out manually. At least the way I'm reading it.

It is, there's a lot of boards that did that at least for LGA1200

Only i7s and i9s could actually run high memory frequencies

[Team Export♿♿♿♿♿♿♿]

nice

[r.linder]

Your performance issues are likely storage related because you're using a 250GB SSD as your OS drive which is gonna slow down as it fills, your drive uses for games is just a 500GB HDD which is going to cause a lot of problems for gaming performance, HDDs are slow and will cause stutters in modern games, especially in open world games.

You need to replace your HDD with a higher capacity SSD, even low capacity cheap SSDs without DRAM like Kingston A400 can have stutter issues when nearly full

[_I_]

2t ssd is cheap
get one and reinstall the os on it

its the board limiting the ram speed, as the i5 can go much faster

im sorry, its an i3 10105, ram running at 3200 cl16 in b560 board
https://valid.x86.fr/yb5cau

for that board it also lists the ram speed limitation, but it can run it at 3200 (with xmp enabled)
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B560M-AORUS-PRO-AX-rev-1x/sp#sp
10th Generation Intel® Core™ i5/i3 /Pentium®/Celeron® processors:
Support for DDR4 2666/2400/2133 MHz memory modules

[76561199408683264]

Originally posted by _I_:

a pentium g 10105 can run 3200 ram, its not the i5 limitation or the board

just find xmp and enable the profile for 3200

Xmp option is available but no profile to choose, But i found another option in the bios menu that let's you manually choose ram clocks, Should i change it manually?

[r.linder]

The board probably won't let you regardless, might be locked to 2666 by the motherboard, could just refuse to POST if you try to force 3200

[_I_]

xmp will change the freq, timings and voltage correct for the dimms

xmp should be on the cpu page, with its settings

if it says ram speed in mhz, pick 1600
but xmp profile should say 3200

[emoticorpse]

Can you post a high resolution picture of the inside of your case?

[Illusion of Progress]

The coil whine when moving the mouse and only when moving the mouse reminds of when I experienced that long ago. It comes from the CPU VRM area (between the CPU socket and the rear I/O, or perhaps above the CPU on some modern motherboards), right?

I only ever experienced that on an old socket 478 Asrock board that was budget end about 20 years ago, and it was gotten used at that so who knows. It didn't cause any issues but it was the only time I've ever had a PC coil whine moving the mouse so it's a memory that tends to stick with you.